Best AVR for RTiA7 .. Suggestions needed !!

infexXxious

Need a good AVR which can power up my RTiA7 the best ....

Budget : 900$ Max nothing more than that
Brands : Onkyo , Denon , Marantz , Harmon kardon
Room Size : No idea its like you can say big
Use :Will be using 100% only for movies

Looking for a 7.1 AVR ... this is my first ever HT Setup and been like a week on the internet searching for the best AVR But found ntn Finally got thru this forum and i hope i will find the best AVR here ....
Bein confused a lot cause people say that the RTiA7 really needs some good power from the AVR ...
And i don't want to use a Pre out amp ...

My other speaker and subs are :

Front Floor Standing Speaker RTiA7
Center Channel Speaker CSiA6
Surround speakers F/XiA6
DSW PRO 660WI

So please suggest me the best AVR for my RTiA7 on that budget ...Few said the denon 2113 will be a good buy

chumlie

No love for Pioneer ? SC series.

infexXxious

chumlie wrote: »

No love for Pioneer ? SC series.

No my friend ...i was looking only for Onkyo , Denon , Marantz & Harmon kardon !!

pdxfj

If you don't want to use a two or three channel amp to power your fronts (best option), then you'll want something along the lines of the Onkyo 3008/3009 or similar. An AVR that size has separate transformers for the internal amps. Be prepared to pay a bit extra for all of that.

Another option is to get a smaller AVR and use the leftover cash for an amp. You can pick up an Onkyo TX-NR717 from http://www.accessories4less.com for $500 and spend the rest on an amp.

I'm only using Onkyo as an example. The other brands you suggest would work fine as well. You'll discover most people here will strongly suggest using an external amp when possible.

tommyt21

chumlie wrote: »

No love for Pioneer ? SC series.

I agree thats what I run mine with those ice amps push alot of juice

F1nut

So please suggest me the best AVR for my RTiA7 on that budget

A used Pioneer SC-xx

infexXxious

How about Denon AVR-2313CI ? Marantz SR5007 ?

Upstatemax

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/MARSR7005/MARANTZ-SR7005-3D-Ready-7.2-Home-Theater-Networking-Receiver/1.html

Much more bang for your buck...

B Run

Sorry man I know they're not on the list but I'd go Pioneer SC or Yamaha RXA just personal preferences after owning LOTS of avr's. The Marantz from accessories for less is a nice one, I had an Onkyo 3008 and would definitely recommend the Pioneer over it.

gce

If you look at my sig you'll see that I have the same speakers you have. I'm running a 5.1 setup and my Yamaha does just fine.

mantis

The Pioneer Elite SC models are the best in the bussiness for power and pure sound quality , nothing sounds better or gives you more power In IMO.

jkg123

I would make sure you get something with Pre-outs incase you want to add a separate amp later

jkg123

Are you considering used at all?

jkg123

Because if you are, a Denon AVR-3311 can be had for a little less then $900

EDUBAG

i had the RTIA7 with the csi4 and rti4 as surrounds and my pioneer elite vsx23, did a good job with them. however the sc line is a much better line. i would say that you will not be sorry with an sc37. if going with marantz i would say sr6006 or sr6007. i am not familiar with onkyo or harman kardon as far as receivers go.

good luck

roost28

Budget : 900$ Max nothing more than that
Brands : Onkyo , Denon , Marantz , Harmon kardon
Room Size : No idea its like you can say big
Use :Will be using 100% only for movies


Any of theses brands are good, but i would skip the onkyo unless you have it in a well ventilated spot, they run pretty hot. just get something that has at least 120w per channel and that has pre outs so you can add an amp later if you want.Me personally i am a yamaha guy the new aventage line are fantastic! espeacially for movies:cheesygrin:

badchad

I'm in the same boat as the OP.

roost28 wrote: »

Me personally i am a yamaha guy the new aventage line are fantastic! espeacially for movies:cheesygrin:

Do you think I'd even notice small differences in power at the lower-end Yamahas? I'm deciding between the RX-A810 and X-A1010. Seems like the only major difference is about 10W of power and a few hundred bucks. Seems like I'd be better off going with the A810 and saving the case toward an external amp.

pdxfj

Funny thing about the heat issues with the Onkyo AVR's is my 808 use to run hot enough to burn you. Since upgrading electrical service to my house and running a dedicated 20A circuit for the TV and such, the 808 runs much, much cooler. It still gets rather warm but not the blast furnace it was before.

Plus the heat and HDMI issues are not so common in the 3008 and higher models since they used a different chip-set.

In the end grab what you want but, to future proof yourself get something with pre-outs so you can add an amp later if you so choose.

roost28

badchad wrote: »

I'm in the same boat as the OP.



Do you think I'd even notice small differences in power at the lower-end Yamahas? I'm deciding between the RX-A810 and X-A1010. Seems like the only major difference is about 10W of power and a few hundred bucks. Seems like I'd be better off going with the A810 and saving the case toward an external amp.

between the 810 and 1010 probably not,but i believe the 1010 does have a slightly better amp sec. are you going to add an amp right away? why not step up to the 2010 and then you get a lot more like hqv.

spock 2054

pdxfj wrote: »

Funny thing about the heat issues with the Onkyo AVR's is my 808 use to run hot enough to burn you. Since upgrading electrical service to my house and running a dedicated 20A circuit for the TV and such, the 808 runs much, much cooler. It still gets rather warm but not the blast furnace it was before.

Plus the heat and HDMI issues are not so common in the 3008 and higher models since they used a different chip-set.

In the end grab what you want but, to future proof yourself get something with pre-outs so you can add an amp later if you so choose.

I had an Onkyo 806, then upgraded to a 709 because of the 3D pass through capability. The 709 ran as hot as the 806. Returned the 709 after I found txnr809 for a crazy price on Warehouse Deals. That unit runs as cool as a cucumber, even under stress.

+1 on the pre-out option and external amp. The A7's will sound better with more power. Your best bet would be to prowl CL or fleabay for clean used gear - even though your don't want to use a pre out, it's a good suggestion to look for an AVR with that option.

http://www.accessories4less.com/index.php

Factory refurbs could be an option. You get a warranty and on some items on the a4L site, free shipping.

badchad

roost28 wrote: »

why not step up to the 2010 and then you get a lot more like hqv.

I probably could, but the upper-tier receivers seem to offer a ton of features that I don't need. I'm planning a very basic, 7.1 setup for home theater. I don't need all the networking bells and whistles, "smart" features, etc.

Really, the only thing I wanted was more power, so that I may not require another amp.

jbooker82

infexXxious wrote: »

No my friend ...i was looking only for Onkyo , Denon , Marantz & Harmon kardon !!

I guess you shouldn't ask this question on a pioneer forum. hahahaha.


Take a look at www.accessories4less.com they sell refurbished Denon, Onkyo, and Marantz recievers. I like my Onkyo and if I was looking to get a new one I would take a look at the TX-NR818 it is the current model so your getting the latest in technology. They TX-NR809 is last years, and the TX-NR808 is two years old. I have the 808 and am happy with it. You need to get at least an Onkyo TX-NR7xx to get analog pre outs. That way if you want to try an external amplifier out you at least have the option, and ability to.

roost28

badchad wrote: »

I probably could, but the upper-tier receivers seem to offer a ton of features that I don't need. I'm planning a very basic, 7.1 setup for home theater. I don't need all the networking bells and whistles, "smart" features, etc.

Really, the only thing I wanted was more power, so that I may not require another amp.

what is your budget?

tonyb

badchad wrote: »

I probably could, but the upper-tier receivers seem to offer a ton of features that I don't need. I'm planning a very basic, 7.1 setup for home theater. I don't need all the networking bells and whistles, "smart" features, etc.

Really, the only thing I wanted was more power, so that I may not require another amp.

So don't use them. Buying a receiver isn't like buying a car where you get to choose your options. More power is usually associated with the upper end of a receiver line, and that comes with lots of bells and whistles that some may not want/need/ or use.

The only other option I can see is looking at a receiver thats a tad bit older, that has the current surround formats but before all the gimmicky stuff was added on.

kemetblk

The Marantz SR6006 can be found on clearance for less than $700 (my local BB has 3 left). I'm using one to power my RTiA9's and it does great. Doesn't mean I'm not keeping an eye out for an amp later on though.

gp4jesus

To my fraternal A7 owner

badchad wrote: »

...Seems like the only major difference is about 10W of power and a few hundred bucks.

At the risk of stirring the pot, be careful just glancing at the numbers.

Belles rated @ 100 WPC/8ohms
Hafler XL-280 145 WPC/8ohms.

Here's the catch: Belles is rated 30 ampres peak/ch vs 10 (I think) for the Haf. Belles has a much larger transformer and over double the PS filtering. The Belles has a much more authoritative bottom end in spite of the 45 WPC difference.

At the risk of stirring a different pot, you won't see this on the Polk site. Below the sub LP filter frequency (125hz) the mids and subs are in parallel; your AVR/amp see a 4 ohm load something most AVRs have trouble with.

Go figure.

Tony