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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,065
    edited August 2012
    He is a stand up guy. Make no bones about doing buisness with Signal Cable and Frank. I always suggest that be your first stop when your looking to upgrade that Home depot or Monoprice cable and you don't want to spend alot of coin.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,674
    edited August 2012
    cowtrimmer wrote: »
    Another helpful audio cable thread. :rolleyes:...........Its not to often that you get to see grown men who spend so much on cable get so **** over the fact that they do. :lol: and then get all hurt because everyone doesn't "chipmunk" them.

    Another one of your mistaken assumptions. I'm not "****" over the amount of money I've spent on cables. Why should I be, they are worth every penny.

    What I see are folks like you that don't have any experience with high end cables stating that they are snake oil and trying to convince those who do have experience that we've wasted our money because you can't afford them. Seems to me you're the one who's ****.
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  • bobsauto49
    bobsauto49 Posts: 973
    edited August 2012
    F1nut wrote: »
    Another one of your mistaken assumptions. I'm not "****" over the amount of money I've spent on cables. Why should I be, they are worth every penny.

    What I see are folks like you that don't have any experience with high end cables stating that they are snake oil and trying to convince those who do have experience that we've wasted our money because you can't afford them. Seems to me you're the one who's ****.
    I have tried the "snake oil" Treatment! Mit Exp2 IC's purchased, AVT2 Speaker wire/8ft purchased,and the Shotgun S3 speaker wire/8ft on a pay/day demo(in which the cables were used,and "broken in"). I also bought Pangea AC14se,and the AC9se! None of these cables made an "audible" or any other difference in my listening pleasure! To each their own,its all about the journey! I kept the Exp2's,and the Avt2's,based on quality build,and i shouldn't have to buy,or worry about cables for my time on earth anymore!
    For the OP,start with what u can afford,(signal cable has a great rep around here!) and follow the jouney as far as your wallet will allow u to experience! Good Day,and Good Luck!
    "Everything I ever did in my life worthwhile I caught hell for"
  • stretchl
    stretchl Posts: 1,334
    edited August 2012
    Frank discounted my $94 purchase to $89.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited August 2012
    bobsauto49 wrote: »
    I have tried the "snake oil" Treatment! Mit Exp2 IC's purchased, AVT2 Speaker wire/8ft purchased,and the Shotgun S3 speaker wire/8ft on a pay/day demo(in which the cables were used,and "broken in"). I also bought Pangea AC14se,and the AC9se! None of these cables made an "audible" or any other difference in my listening pleasure!

    The key here is that you actually tried something, versus the know-it-alls who try nothing. While I do not know why you had a problem not hearing a difference, I suspect for every one who does not hear a difference there are ninety nine who do. Otherwise, all these cable vendors would go out of business. The funny part is the butt munches latch onto the one, and ignore the other ninety nine. :rolleyes:
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • schaufensterpup
    schaufensterpup Posts: 1
    edited August 2012
    My friend,now listen to me..been doing this for 50 years.It doesn't matter what your speakers are !Unless you have very top end speakers; forget about it...Go to ebay look for some flat speaker cables,most are very good indeed ! For about $20.00-$40.00 a person can get excellent cables (Chinese) from Hong Kong.Don't get fooled from the HYPE,good luck my friend and stay tuned and stay analog......the schaufensterpuppen
  • leftwinger57
    leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
    edited August 2012
    Me, I subscribe to the Rodger Russel school of wire. Maybe 10-12 foot runs needs nothing more than 14 gu. clear zip.As most have chimed in the bigger your system and your wallet will allow then yes invest in boutique branded cables.
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    H/T- Toshiba au40" flat- Yamaha RX- V665 avr- YSD-11 Dock- I-Pod- Klipsch #400HD Speaker set-

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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,065
    edited August 2012
    BlueFox wrote: »
    The funny part is the butt munches latch onto the one, and ignore the other ninety nine. :rolleyes:

    LOL !!

    Not cool making me spit coffee so early on a Sunday.:cheesygrin::cheesygrin:
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • helipilotdoug
    helipilotdoug Posts: 1,230
    edited August 2012
    Me, I subscribe to the Rodger Russel school of wire. Maybe 10-12 foot runs needs nothing more than 14 gu. clear zip.As most have chimed in the bigger your system and your wallet will allow then yes invest in boutique branded cables.
    My Brother In Law has a set of ADL 300i auto speakers, and he wanted to see if they would still work. They only have the spring clips, so could not use my regular cables, so I grabbed a roll of zip cord speaker cable I had on the shelf to hook them into my shop system, just to test them.
    Here is the roll of 14/2 speaker cable that as you can see was manufactured in Sept. 2009. That's just under 3 years ago.
    DSC_0217.jpg


    When you strip this wire, here is what you get. Copper has corroded and is no longer nice and shiny. This is not the old end of the cable, but a section taken from about 6' in.
    coppercorrosion.jpg

    This is not what I would use for any audio system, no matter what the cost!
    Sunfire Theater Grand IV
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature
    SRS 2.1TL
    SDA 2BTL's
    CSiA6
    FXiA4
    FXiA6
    SDA 2A's
    Monitor 10A's

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 29,386
    edited August 2012
    My favorite performer for the dollar is DH Labs Q-10
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