What about a new Digital section in the forum?

[Deleted User]
[Deleted User] Posts: 13
edited July 2012 in The Clubhouse
The idea would be how to get the most out of your digital music. Topics might include DACs (digital to analog converters), FLACs (the Free Lossless Audio Codec), what's worth listening to on HD Tracks and Archive.org, Burr Brown chip sets, best digital coax cables, best optical cables, bit depth and sample rates.

What say you
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  • VTO888
    VTO888 Posts: 72
    edited July 2012
    Most definitely.
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited July 2012
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited July 2012
    I suggested a "Networked Music" forum years ago---No go, mods didn't like the idea. Good Luck.
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited July 2012
    Are you going to move threads over which could be in this new forum?

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  • nwohlford
    nwohlford Posts: 700
    edited July 2012
    I think that this would be great idea.
    steveinaz wrote: »
    I suggested a "Networked Music" forum years ago---No go, mods didn't like the idea. Good Luck.

    No offense, but I am guessing that jon_s has a little more pull around here than you. (http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?133330-Watch-out-for-the-new-guy-Jon-Schroeder)
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 13
    edited July 2012
    disneyjoe7 wrote: »
    Are you going to move threads over which could be in this new forum?
    I think we would just start fresh going forward. Folks could link to threads elsewhere to start off new conversations in the Digital Special Interestes section.
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited July 2012
    I feel like I could have the same conversation about digital media whether we had a new section or not.
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited July 2012
    nwohlford wrote: »
    I think that this would be great idea.



    No offense, but I am guessing that jon_s has a little more pull around here than you. (http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?133330-Watch-out-for-the-new-guy-Jon-Schroeder)

    Cool, maybe he can make it happen then.
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited July 2012
    Jon_S wrote: »
    I think we would just start fresh going forward. Folks could link to threads elsewhere to start off new conversations in the Digital Special Interestes section.


    Ok fair enough.

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    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,726
    edited July 2012
    We can put it right next to the new Headphone section that most people seem to prefer
  • coolsax
    coolsax Posts: 1,824
    edited July 2012
    I'm a yes on both of these ideas. I do a lot of listening in my Head rig and travel cans (probably more than my 2 channel rig sadly) and I used apple Tv and SBT and my lap top as sources so both would be nice.
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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    edited July 2012
    I vote yes. Lots of this stuff gets discussed already, and digital sources and implementation gets asked about all the time, usually in 2 channel audio. But I am all for things being better organized and easier to search, and this is a good way to do that. one of the things I like about this forum is that it is easier to search than some of the massive ones. More specific sub-forums contributes to that or it least it would seem.
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  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited July 2012
    Great idea, maybe it will keep the digital stuff out of the real music analog sections.
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  • gimpod
    gimpod Posts: 1,793
    edited July 2012
    Great idea, maybe it will keep the digital stuff out of the real music analog sections.
    +1, More and more guys seem to be going this route so why not.

    I have been and always will be an analog guy!.
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited July 2012
    I would be up for discussing some of those things in the OP in a Digital Section.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited July 2012
    Don't forget CD players are digital, so they also need to covered in the digital section.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited July 2012
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Don't forget CD players are digital, so they also need to covered in the digital section.

    So are receivers...basically. Ipods, Ipads, Nooks, phones, dacs, bdp, heck...there's more digital than analog gear.
    So then, the question should be....how about an analog section ?
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 13
    edited July 2012
    tonyb wrote: »
    .how about an analog section ?

    touche!

    Maybe that should happen too!
  • coolsax
    coolsax Posts: 1,824
    edited July 2012
    or instead of calling it a digital section, name it a computer audio section b/c i think that's what the OP was more getting at.
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited July 2012
    coolsax wrote: »
    or instead of calling it a digital section, name it a computer audio section b/c i think that's what the OP was more getting at.

    Some people would never discuss computer audio, however due to the fact they don't use computers or any sort of digital files to play their music. I think more people use some sort of DAC, digital cable, CD player, and SACD player however. Not saying that no one uses computer audio, but not everyone does (and more people do not, than do) and therefore the section should not be called a "computer audio" section.
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....


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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited July 2012
    headrott wrote: »
    Some people would never discuss computer audio, however due to the fact they don't use computers or any sort of digital files to play their music. I think more people use some sort of DAC, digital cable, CD player, and SACD player however. Not saying that no one uses computer audio, but not everyone does (and more people do not, than do) and therefore the section should not be called a "computer audio" section.

    Exactly. As long as it is inclusive of digital music. The issue is some people think their digital is not really digital.

    :rolleyes:
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited July 2012
    It's not so much the need for this or that to have it's own section. It's more so organizing all the info available on this site so that it's easier to find. That would partially eliminate repeated questions and give newbies a more direct path to seek some answers on their own.
    Lets face it, audio has grown in many different directions over the years.

    Kinda surprised myself this task wasn't undertaken when re-doing the forum recently.
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  • zane77
    zane77 Posts: 1,696
    edited July 2012
    I've pretty much completed my home theater system and now I would like to put together a two channel system that I can store all of my cd"s on some kind of NAS and be able to play these without having to drag out the jewel cases and have them laying around. A digital section with all of the info in one place would be an excellant idea. Thanks Jon_S
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited July 2012
    zane77 wrote: »
    I've pretty much completed my home theater system and now I would like to put together a two channel system that I can store all of my cd"s on some kind of NAS and be able to play these without having to drag out the jewel cases and have them laying around. A digital section with all of the info in one place would be an excellant idea. Thanks Jon_S

    Well, have you done a search ? Sonos, squeezebox.....lots of threads on these with suggestions on how to get good audio from these devices.
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    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
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    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 13
    edited July 2012
    The new Going Digital forum section is now a go! It's under Special Interests along with the new Headphones section. Thanks for participating in this poll.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2012
    I certainly don't think it was necessary to devote an entire forum to the topic as it is discussed but not quite as much as more traditional things. I would be nice if the forum moderators or the person who started the forum to compile and move all the past posts on this subject into that area. That would be helpful for those seeking the knowledge and who are too lazy to search or can't figure out the search patterns.

    Just my .02c

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2012
    Really,

    A seperate headphone forum as well?

    How about a "What did you have for breakfast?" forum too.

    :wink:
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited July 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Really,

    A seperate headphone forum as well?

    How about a "What did you have for breakfast?" forum too.

    :wink:

    Nah Brock.... has to do with audio. Now, if we were to talk about the quality of the sound that bacon sizzle was making, could be a go. Maybe even how to get rid of that Snap, Crackle, and Pops in your Rice Crispies.
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    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
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    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2012
    Could be a Clubhouse sub-forum?

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited July 2012
    As we have been living in a digital rules world, I can see this being a value to add to the forum. I think to narrow down thread in that section would be better titled " Digital Music". Or "Digital music files". Something on those lines to lessen the broad topic anyone could misinturpret.
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