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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,494
    edited May 2012
    ESavinon wrote: »
    In our hobby there are three types of people.
    Those who listen to music and enjoy music, Those who enjoy the equipment, and those who enjoy both the musical aspect and the technical aspect of music reproduction. Which of the three are you?

    Fellow music ****,.....I Want It All!:cheesygrin:

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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited May 2012
    pepster wrote: »
    A poor man on a poor system enjoys his music as much as a rich man on a high $$$$$$ system?:eek:

    When I was a college student, with a kenwood receiver, Bose 201 speakers, and a Sony turntable...I did not enjoy music any less than I do now with a two channel system that has speaker cables that cost much more than what my entire college system did. I enjoy the musical presentation more than I did in my college days, but my enjoyment of the music has remained the same.

    On any given day, I listen to music on systems of various quality: my bedroom system while getting ready for work, my car or truck system while driving to work, my office system at work, my car or truck system while driving home, and finally, my high resolution two channel rig at the end of the day. On days when I am working in my home office, music is supplied from my PC with a SurroundBar speaker/subwoofer system. I enjoy listening to them all, even though they all differ in presentation quality.
    pepster wrote: »
    Is it all about the music for you?

    For me, it's all about well reproduced music. As long as the audio system does not introduce distracting artifacts, I'm good.

    It is sort of like asking if it makes a difference whether I watch my favorite TV show on a 19 inch black and white set or a 60 inch high definition color set. If I like the story, the acting and the characters, I am going to like the show on either set. However, I would prefer the larger, more accurate presentation of the 60 inch HDTV.
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,147
    edited May 2012
    I have always hated FM static, tape hiss and record pops and ticks. So clarity was #1 and the bass output and highend freq. clarity of a cymbal's metalic sound #2. All was well until I was about 25 when I heard a set of ESS AMT1B's in my own home on my system that had a set of fisher cheapo's for my then mains. I had never heard sound that powerful and clear. I had auditioned Polk SDA's ( they were set up wrong...they had to be !) and Bang and Olefson and they didn't move me like the ESS's did.

    I always loved hearing great recordings and I think that's what spending $ on gear and music is realy all about. Us being able to hear high quality music the best it can be reproduced. Most of us all know the point of $ for as some have stated already, percieved improvement or actual slight improvement does happen around a few to 5 thousand $ MSRP worth of gear.

    I've owned well over 100K MSRP worth of gear and speakers and I have found, once you get past a point, what you get are manufacturers trademark sound. Be them warm, neutral or bright. I've heard most and can guess with good certainty what I'm hearing if I was to do a blind test with speakers. I would have to know the system's powerplant persea, but the speakers have been pretty consistant over the years.

    I've noticed what has greatly improved is newer tweeters and midranges have produced fantastic soundfield clarity.

    I've said, WOW.. many times in my life after hearing either different and more revealing speakers or the warmth of a classic Marantz receiver's phono section. The warmth of a classic Pioneer receiver or neutrality with a slight warmth from a classic Luxman.

    Warmth is always good but sometimes we want clarity in the upper bass and midrange and it seems manufacturers have gravitated towards this a little more and more. Bose.... nailed the publics wants didn't they ? Mids....


    Well I like ribbon sound signatures and I guess that why I love the Heil folded ribbon and my Newform Research ribbons also. I love the older Peerless tweeters too. I like the clearness of the Klipsch horn loaded compression tweeters but not for my main speakers. My Maggies ribbon sounds silky smooth too.

    The highs have to be revealing like true to life but without distortion and artifacts from the music or format for me to be able to enjoy it. A boombox will do outside as long as it's clear and the sound range is somewhat reproduced in a balanced way.

    As another has said in this thread and I have told others over the years too,
    You can't miss what you haven't heard.

    That's it in a nut shell but the other distortion, pops, and static issues, I can't stand them no matter what I'm listening to or with or on.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,274
    edited May 2012
    Tony M wrote: »
    As another has said in this thread and I have told others over the years too, You can't miss what you haven't heard.

    That should be the quote of the month, with all the dbt, and cable debates this month that quote speaks the truth...I'm only in a couple+ years into the hobby, but was a addicted the first time I really sat and listened to nice gear....but dont think you have to spend 10k to hear good music
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  • hochpt21
    hochpt21 Posts: 5,423
    edited May 2012
    I am also relatively new to the hobby, but every upgrade I have made has made a big impact to me so far.

    Pounding Alice in Chains on my hand-me-down MTX's from my sister sounded awesome in college. I would just set the speakers where I wanted in the yard and run wire out to them. Sounded great, impressed the chicks and had an awesome time.

    Listening to the same album as I type this on the 15's, with my wife and son sleeping next to me on the couch...just completely different yet equally or more enjoyable. Admiring the details and nuances.

    My goal is to upgrade audio gear as my budget allows and enjoy the journey.
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