Very bass shy CRS+'s

TennMan

OldmanSRS wrote: »

Revealed: All the sub users are coming out of the closet

Who knows what's next. Equalizer users?

evhudsons

ha ha, I hope not!

I never shy from the fact that I have a sub. I'm proud of it actually. It's old school spl competition type stuff, but I've incorporated it musically and HT into my system with awesome results. It's being fed by a NAD amp now and really sounds great, and I can easily control it's volume with a knob on the front of the amp.

I also lined it up pointed along the plane of my crs+ passives, so it seems like the little speakers are just pumping out tremendous bass when needed. The cool thing is the crs+ puts out clean bass on par but just smaller volume so easing it together is very easy and seemingly to me natural sounding, to a point. Most people don't even notice my sub because it looks like a wood furniture piece.

Face

TennMan wrote: »

Who knows what's next. Equalizer users?

Nothing wrong with a little room correction before the data hits the DAC.

newrival

Face wrote: »

Nothing wrong with a little room correction before the data hits the DAC.

Not only is there nothing wrong with it, it's the future of audio, IMO. The purists hate it, but if you're seeking pure audio, its one of the best investments. I'm nearly all saved up for my Spatial software based on the Pure Vinyl setup from Clayton Shaw, and I can't wait.

newrival

heiney9 wrote: »

The biggest oversight you fail to mention Newrival, is very little popular music is recorded that has a signal much below about 32-35Hz. Sure organ music and maybe some classical audiophile recordings go lower but most modern music isn't mastered with hardly any material below 32-35Hz. There are exceptions but they are few and far between. I can possibly see adding a sub to larger SDA's if you want the full impact of movies in a 5.1 HT setting. For music, IMO, it is uneccesary because the signal isn't there. All you are doing is reinforcing tones the SDA's are already capable of reproducing.

I can rattle the walls with my 1C's in 2channel mode when watching certain movies with low level content. Does it go as low as nice sub for HT material, no, but still plenty low for immense enjoyment. A sub is not needed for the larger SDA's when being used in a well appointed 2ch rig and correct set-up.

H9

I'm not forgetting that at all. You and I have discussed that very thing before. All I can say is take Oldman SRS up on his offer, or if you're nearby, I could stop out with a REL and some brews and you can hear it on your gear and we can debate in person

newrival

heiney9 wrote: »

Will do OldmanSRS if I'm ever down there. And yes, I excluded organ music in my post because I have listened to a fair amount of live organ as well as recorded organ music and they do hit the lower register.

And yes, I can see the benefit of using a sub for reinforcement *if* the mains aren't/can't be set-up to get the full frequency into the room. But that's not the exception Newrival made, he stated his point as an absolute:



Now I am not huge believer in using frequency response published by manufacturer's but just having a peak at some of the subs vs. the actual measurements taken of the original SRS it all points to the original SRS's being capable of reproducing down to 12Hz (+/-7dB; I know that's really starting to roll off, but I'm guessing many mid-priced subs can't do that) and a +/- 4dB lower response of 20Hz. Polks best Micro Pro doesn't go that low (if you go entirely by spec).

It would be fun to do a listening session to see how they stack up.

H9

I honestly don't have a great response to this, as I don't fully understand the why yet, but I have noticed Full spectrum improvements with the intoduction of well integrated subs. Dr. Earl Geddes has written extensively about this, bt I have not found enough time to dealve into the matter. But I, too, would love to be a part of this comparison.