My Elite SC-57 is a hunk of crap

ibewbrother

I bought this thing thinking it was the best money could buy... and now it is the worst purchase I have ever made. If you can get it to do all of the cool looking control stuff from an ipad.....then you're sitting 3 feet in front of it. It sounds good....ok. but it doesn't deliver on all of the claims. I'm either too stupid to figure it out or it doesn't work correctly. I'm leaning toward big P.O.S. with some good amps thrown on top.

I know it's the wrong forum... but I find myself looking for another Onkyo.

leroyjr1

Well I own the SC-57 and it sounds great and functions like expected. What seems to be the problem you're having?

B Run

ibewbrother wrote: »

I'm either too stupid to figure it out or it doesn't work correctly.

Can you be more specific of what doesn't work correctly?

BlueFox

That is the price one pays for not believing in audiophile speaker wire. The gear knows, and rebells.

ibewbrother

Hard wired to the newly set up Cisco router. My laptop and my I-pad (bought especially for this amp) go online fine....cool and the gang. Here's the fun part. The router sees and recognizes the 57....but the Laptop and the I pad do not...I cant get zone 2 to work.....at all!. So I find myself quite heartbroken at my loss of cash.

These things will go for $500 in 6 months....I cant get it to work like the claims.....I wire automation controls for a living...I can't figure it out.....GOOD LUCK

F1nut

Why don't you call Pioneer to see what they have to say about your issues.

leroyjr1

So you can't figure out how to make the accessories work so it's a piece of crap? Did you read the manual? Got my iPhone to work ok with mine but it's useless, my harmony works better.

Just sold my 2 year old sc-27 for $625 so I doubt your sc-57 will only be worth $500 in 6 months.

F1nut

BlueFox wrote: »

That is the price one pays for not believing in audiophile speaker wire. The gear knows, and rebells.

Classic...LOL

ibewbrother

@ leroy...I've read the manual in 2 formats. Acts weird every time.....my last gasp is putting the Pioneer disk in this computer....run MCACC again......and hope for the best.

On an aside....I had the Avatar disk in the PS3....skipped to deep note......Sounds pretty good at reference......the SVS moved the curtains a bit

ibewbrother

I remember getting my Onk807 out of the box and had it up in running in minutes....I can,t figure out what to do. I might call a few engineers that i like.....nice steak if you'll fix my stuff

ibewbrother

@ leroy......different models.....the 27's 37's might turn out to be the best. Ironically enough I was looking for a 37.....and started reading about the 57. If you can figure it out......good luck....wish you the best... I think you are a Pioneer guy. think I have bought my last. ........And this was a eal................

Sherardp

I have the 1021 and it talks to my IMAC, Iphone and Ipad with no issue. First thing I would do is go into your router and establish DHCP reservation for the SC57, this will assign it the same IP address every time. Secondly, I'm guessing you can't get the devices to control the SC57, if so you need to keep in mind that Zone 2 cannot be used with digital sources ( at least I was told). So try another device over Zone 2 like HMG. If you have music on a PC on the same network, you have to go into Windows Media Player and allow it access to the PC. My 1021 can see all my music files with no issues and I'm talking over 300gb of music. I would also start with the network settings in the SC57. Power it on, check the network and see if you can access internet radio or something easy. From there it gets extremely easy. Once your on the network, its just a matter of having both devices see the SC57 and performing the controls you wish.

Kind of operator error bro. Keep your cool, we'll help you as best we can.

cfrizz

Geat helpful post Sherard I'm sure you will have him up & running in no time.

mantis

ibewbrother wrote: »

Hard wired to the newly set up Cisco router. My laptop and my I-pad (bought especially for this amp) go online fine....cool and the gang. Here's the fun part. The router sees and recognizes the 57....but the Laptop and the I pad do not...I cant get zone 2 to work.....at all!. So I find myself quite heartbroken at my loss of cash.

These things will go for $500 in 6 months....I cant get it to work like the claims.....I wire automation controls for a living...I can't figure it out.....GOOD LUCK

You wire Automation controls? What kind of Automation are you wiring for? I'm assuming your not the programmer correct?

The SC-57 works flawless when setup correctly. I know I Install these all the time. The iPad App works flawlessly when set up correctly. It sounds to me like you have no idea how to work it , your frustrated and taking it out on the gear instead of yourself.

As said already , sounds like networking issues. First make sure the network cable you are using is properly built and passes standards. This can be done with a network tester. If you are a Automation Wire guy , you should have a network tester so test the cable. Next do as said above and set a static IP address , you you don't know how to do so , call someone like a Home theater Tech to come over and get everything set up for you. It would be worth the cost paying someone to set up your gear correctly if you can not.
Zone 2 works off of analog audio inputs and H.M.G even the iPod connection will play out zone 2. Zone 2 also needs to be setup or you will get nothing. If you use the internal amps , you will have full control over volume. If you want to use the pre outs , you will need a external volume control. Analog inputs mean HDMI , Coax and Optical inputs will not play out zone 2 or zone 3. You have to connect any source you want to hear in zone 2 with a analog cable mean stereo RCA left and right White and red. Then where you select the given input in zone 2 and now you can hear this source.

Todays setups are not easy so don't feel bad that you can't do it. I do this for a living , train 4 times a year or more on gear just to keep up as it changes all the time. I just trained on the New Samsung Smart Tv's yesterday.

Keep your chin up and call someone.

ibewbrother

@ Mantis......want a deal on one...if they're so great.

What noone has mentioned so far is I took a top of the line Onkyo out of the box and in 30 minutes had it running like a top. Nothing in the Pioneer literature speaks of IP addresses, or the fact that they change. (manual page # please Mantis) This has been the biggest disappointment in my electronics life.....and if I mess with it again with similar results, I may just take a hammer to it.

Something in my mind was telling me that I shouldn't try to go for all of the cool looking bells and whistles. I wish I listened to that part of my mind a little more often,


BTW.....controls automation....currently re-wiring some machines made in 1967....adding lasers, some computers....funny thing is....when your doing a machine..there's usually a reason why something isn't working right...and a way to troubleshoot it.

all this 57 gives me is device not found....... right under the screen describing it...

AsSiMiLaTeD

Jeezus, rage post much?

If its that bad just take it back, or sell it while you can since you seem to think they won't hold their value very long.

You're not here to get help, you're just here to unload on your gear because you can't figure out how to use it and then lash out at people when they try to help.

It's just gear dude, and is not worth getting that upset over, if it really pisses you off that much then just find a way to get rid of it.

Seriously, are you like 13 or something???

kuntasensei

If I'm being honest, you should really be mad at your new router. Those Linksys/Cisco routers have had UPnP issues for years now, often requiring you to assign static IP addresses so you can directly forward the ports you need to each device. Every time I have to work with one, it's a nightmare. The Cisco name no longer means what it used to. I would be willing to bet if you replaced that sucker with a Netgear router, all the problems you're having will go bye-bye. Netgear even lets you assign IPs to individual devices without you having to set them as static on the device itself, and the UPnP works flawlessly.

Just sayin'... Do a little more troubleshooting and a little less rage-posting, and you'll probably end up happy.

ibewbrother

I've got a good deal on a 57.....I would say it works.....but that would be a lie...

ibewbrother

@kunta......I paid extra to buy this router from the Local Computer Shop. It was the one they told me to buy.

Look....I appreciate all of the help you guys have offered..(and I just took 2 nerve pills)...But this thing does not work as advertised, at least not for me. I bought it wholesale, so I have no customer support. I'm basically out 2 bills for a "shiny" set of amps....which I don't need in the first place. If I can't get the networking aspect going...what is it worth to me?

heiney9

I believe you can still call Pioneer for set-up help. For example, if I bought it used from you (I wouldn't be the original warranty owner) I know any company worth anything would help me out to get it set up properly. So that excuse is a non-issue. You need to call Pioneer support because obviously you are missing something. I assume that because others have gotten it to work where you haven't. Stop bitching and start dialing.

H9

cstmar01

Seriously call pioneer. If there is an issue and you bought it new then it should be covered under warrenty. This seems more like user error and your taking it out on the gear and just saying its junk because it doesn't work. You remind me of 95% of people who buy HDTV and hook it up to standard Def wondering why it looks like crap. Then come back and blame the tv even though its doing.as it should.

tonyb

[QUOTE=ibewbrother;1751584But this thing does not work as advertised,[/QUOTE]

Maybe.....but neither are you.

Look, some of this stuff takes awhile to troubleshoot. Unless you want to put the time in to do so, then sell it and go back to a standard avr. Really not that complicated. Your rant is just telling people your aggravated at your own lack of knowlege to set it up properly.

Send Mantis a PM, he'll help you step by step, and be specific on the gear involved and what you want it to do. If you can't do that, then you bought the wrong gear and you'll need to unload it for a simpler piece.

disneyjoe7

Dibs

ibewbrother

@cst...I'm not quite THAT bad....I have praised the amps in previous posts....

SolidSqual

Mantis can help you out, he sets these things up for a living in audiophile and home automation settings. He has helped me buy gear and tweak it. The result is always great.

ibewbrother

Many Apologies to all that I offended...sincerely. I shouldn't have used this site for a complaint board. For that...I am sorry.

I did find the first fix....the 1/4" icon on the ipad that swaps it to airplay.

disneyjoe7

Cisco / Linksys with DD-WRT is the best router for anything 10/100 IMHO. I still use some of those myself, but getting a little old since if you need a 1000/ 1 gig network.

Sherardp

Sell it, how much are you looking to get for it?

ibewbrother

$1500 out the door

cnh

OK, the unit doesn't play well with your router, web service, etc.

BUT, how does it sound? Have you put a blu-ray on or a CD and listened to it? To me whether something can "network" easily, is ALWAYS secondary to how it performs power and sound-wise. Or are those (the most important parts of a receiver) NOT important?

As mentioned above, Mantis can take you through this step by step if you want?

Good Luck either way.

cnh

polkfarmboy

ibewbrother wrote: »

$1500 out the door

You should have bought an Onkyo