Generally speaking , Blu ray player failures.
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I've been looking into the Denon players , I'm wondering how their failure rate is now a days.polkfarmboy wrote: »Denon 2500 bluray... used to cost 1000, can be had for 300 no issuesDan
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I had one , the older model that played SACD and it was extremely noisy. My gear is in my room and when it was quite you could hear the players fan noise. I hated that as we would watch movies late at night and not have the sound up loud.Conradicles wrote: »The PS3 is superb in this regard. No issues ever. Amazing unit.Dan
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Two SONY BDP's zero issues.
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Too srtrange. I bought a samsung ht 4500 home theater sysem in a box ( blue ray player ). I had it for two weeks and decided to hook up to net and use some of its features like NetFlix. I was told you need an adapter to connect to net, checked prices and they range from $50 to $90 ( not going to pay that for something that says WiFi ready)! I hooked up direct and tried and got the ( not connected error ). I called customer service and they said I need to send in for service!?!!!!
To top it all off the wife and I watched our first blue ray this week end, the picture was great but after movie was
over I went to eject disc and heard a strange sound and noticed the it was having trouble ejecting disc ( like it was hung up or something) Then POP it flew open and now door will not close all the way tight.
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I find myself just listening to 2 channel more and more these days!
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Just two BD players for me so far; my first, an LGBD370, one FW upgrade, works fine, in a box in the closet.
LGBD390, have owned it for a year and a half, worked good in the beginning and then wouldn't read certain disc's. "Disc Error" is all I could get.
After emailing back and forth with LG, LG agreed to check out the player at no cost.
I got the player back, fixed, played everything I put in it. Two issues; they didn't send it back in the original box I had for it (original packaging) and there was a nice 4" dented gouge in the top of the unit.
LG had me send it back to them. I got it back with a new cover and I got my original box back.
4 months later, playing like a champ, doing what I would expect a blue ray player to do, play blue ray disc's.Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2
Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)
EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
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I love my BDP-51FD...latest firmware of 1.72 and sounds fantastic. It decodes the new formats for my older non-hdmi receiver.
Maybe you Dan see more units fail because you work in that business. That is normal.
At the same time I agree Dan...seems like they make it waaaayyyyy too complicated. Did our VHS player need an update or latest firmware? (LOL) -
I've used my PS3 for over 3 years without any real issue. My father has a 3 year old Sony BDP and it has been flawless.
However my Marantz DV-7600 DVD player has been nothing but issue. Will play DVD's and SACD, but no CD. Even with a brand new laser. I'm fairly certain it's a software issue with the damn thing. Even the guy at the local stereo repair shop said it's doing some weird stuff and can't make sense of it.
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every bd player ive bought was a ps3. Sae as above. never one issue with 3 different models. the original I bought is probably the best one as It plays anything I could want. I didn't realize how bad load times are on others players because the ps3 is up and running in seconds, if not instantly. not to mention it has 10x the function of any other bd player. I don't see how people go spend $300 on anything else.design is where science and art break even.
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Its pretty simple Dan, you went from hardware installer to IT support. We are deep into an age where everything we own will be run by software and have life expectancies of computers. Appliances, musical instruments, & our cars all have this future. Yeah, they can do a lot of tasks, but they run slow and rarely do those tasks well.HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable
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I got a Panny DMP-BD85 because it has analog audio outs.......never have hooked up an AVR, (yet) but the player has worked fine since new. Now......it will probably die immediately !!
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I have not had any issues yet with my two BR players I have used; Oppo 83 and upgrade to Oppo 93.
However, I do have a major gripe with BR in general. While it is not as bad now as it used to be, this does still occur, and there is no excuse for it. Some Blu-ray discs do not support 'Resume play where stopped'. That infuriates me to no end when it occurs. I never watch a movie from start to finish. Usually, it is over 3-4 nights in 30 minute chunks. It drives me crazy when the disc starts at the beginning, and I have to find where I stopped. As I said, there is no excuse for that to occur.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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It drives me crazy when the disc starts at the beginning, and I have to find where I stopped. As I said, there is no excuse for that to occur.
Have you tried the "book marking" feature?Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2
Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)
EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
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I've been lucky so far with my Sony, Panasonic, and CA BDP players. They have played everything thrown at them. To be honest, I have never updated any of the firmware.
Now the HDMI compatibility issue is another software related area where obviously things weren't sorted out prior to introducing the technology to the market.DKG999
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Have you tried the "book marking" feature?
No. Have never been able to figure it out, and Oppo does not explain it in the manual. Still, Resume on play is standard DVD, and it should be standard BR.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
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my Samsung BD player has never worked right out of the box... always some kind of problem. I called tech support and all they said was be sure to keep the firmware current.. which I do all the time. but it still a POS. i rack it up to most electronics being made overseas.. cheap parts, cheap to make, cheap labor.. = so so product that us Americans love to death.
bottom line.. I think most electronics produced today were really only made to last 2 to 4 yrs.. and be thrown out, discarded. not even worth recycling.PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
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Never had any problems with Sony BDP-S550 (2+ years) and Oppo BDP-93 (1 year).Panasonic PT-AE4000U projector for movies
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Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD, works like a dream. In fact, I'm buying a second one.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Oppo 95....... had to send it for repair after 4 months... have not had any problems since... well, not too many. it freezes up from time to time and have to turn it off like it does with my PC.. hit a restart or reboot and back in business.PolkAudioClyde
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Hate to disappoint, but I owned a Panny, have a Sony and an LG3D that came with the tv after my Plasma died and while at times I feel like their boot up times could be measured with a sundial, they have all loaded up and played with no issues.
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Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD, works like a dream. In fact, I'm buying a second one.
I wonder, did the 05FD use a different drive than the 51FD? It's nice you're having great luck with yours...Remember, when you're running from something, you're running to something...-me -
What do you mean drive? The optical pick up, a motor, the logic board, etc.?Political Correctness'.........defined
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Just what sealed computer drive it uses. The 51FD, mine anyway, is a BDV-103-XP. I took the cover off to see if I could help it out somewhat by applying a "very" small amount of grease to the slide rails for the laser lense assemblies. Imagine to my surprise that I couldn't get at them, not without taking the whole shebang apart. Guess I'm a little slow at technology nowadays but I figured it would look like my old DVD and current CD player on the inside. Heck no, I thought I was looking at the inside of my desktop! Funny, regular DVD's and CD's work fine, but BD's don't work.
Anyway, I've read they used different computer drives for the 05 and 51FD's. Just didn't know if it was true.Remember, when you're running from something, you're running to something...-me -
Just what sealed computer drive it uses. The 51FD, mine anyway, is a BDV-103-XP. I took the cover off to see if I could help it out somewhat by applying a "very" small amount of grease to the slide rails for the laser lense assemblies. Imagine to my surprise that I couldn't get at them, not without taking the whole shebang apart. Guess I'm a little slow at technology nowadays but I figured it would look like my old DVD and current CD player on the inside. Heck no, I thought I was looking at the inside of my desktop! Funny, regular DVD's and CD's work fine, but BD's don't work.
Anyway, I've read they used different computer drives for the 05 and 51FD's. Just didn't know if it was true.
Grease isn't going to help, the optical pick up needs to be replaced.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Or cleaned..
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Or cleaned..
Been there, done that. As for replacing the optical pickup, not me. It really stinks that many are going bad. I never minded that it was slower loading. If I didn't need multichannel outputs I probably would have bought a cheaper BDP than the Yami. The 51FD is still a good DVD/CD player though...Remember, when you're running from something, you're running to something...-me -
Just what sealed computer drive it uses. The 51FD, mine anyway, is a BDV-103-XP. I took the cover off to see if I could help it out somewhat by applying a "very" small amount of grease to the slide rails for the laser lense assemblies. Imagine to my surprise that I couldn't get at them, not without taking the whole shebang apart. Guess I'm a little slow at technology nowadays but I figured it would look like my old DVD and current CD player on the inside. Heck no, I thought I was looking at the inside of my desktop! Funny, regular DVD's and CD's work fine, but BD's don't work.
Anyway, I've read they used different computer drives for the 05 and 51FD's. Just didn't know if it was true.
Where did you read that? These two units are near clones of each other. Spec wise they're exactly the "same", even to dimensions, basic appearance, etc. The only real difference is the metal and Urishi finish on the Elite vs the plastic front on the 51. The firmware upgrades are exactly the same. DACs, same, S/N same. Even the weight is, I think, the same. The internal design is the same, so why would Pioneer change the optical drives? I've seen the insides of both units and I can't tell them apart.
But who knows?
I still have a difficult time believing these drives are "failing". It seems to me that that's highly unlikely as a mechanical failure and might be due to the "endless" firmware upgrades that usually take 15 minutes or so to accomplish. The unit itself looks pretty "solid" in construction, certainly much "better" than the light weight, scaled down versions that followed!
I don't use mine enough to know, or experience "failure". As mentioned above it has primary duty in a secondary system as a cheap CDP (got mine at the BB close out so pretty cheap). Paired with an Adcom 545, Nakamichi CA-5 and a pair of Kloss's CSW Model Sixes it does a credible job at CD playback there. And for the occasional DVD I might pop into it for 'review'!
Until this unit actually fails (fingers crossed), I call "firmware" as the culprit. In fact now that I'm at 1.71, I'm not sure I'll 'upgrade' anymore since it's doing fine at 1.71 and I don't want to give it any opportunities to go down.
Dan! Does anyone know if the so-called massive Pioneer failures are associated with stacking and heat! I did notice that when I had my Pioneer on top of another unit that the drive would 'go crazy' after it began to heat up from underneath. The fix. Simply move it so that it's not being "cooked" from down under!
The unit does NOT like enclosed spaces or "heat" and perhaps "there" is your answer!
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Been there, done that. As for replacing the optical pickup, not me. It really stinks that many are going bad. I never minded that it was slower loading. If I didn't need multichannel outputs I probably would have bought a cheaper BDP than the Yami. The 51FD is still a good DVD/CD player though...
If you used one of those CD lense cleaner discs, they are pretty much worthless. You have to physically clean it. As for changing the optical pick up, it's pretty easy to do and they don't cost much.Political Correctness'.........defined
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