New To Home Theater: Need Help Calibrating/Setting Crossover Frequency

ybaiani

Hi Everyone!

I'm very excited to finally have my own home theater system setup for my living room. However, I'm having a hard time getting everything the way I want it. Please note that I am an extreme novice when it comes to this stuff so bare with me.

Fronts - Polk Monitor 60s
Center - Polk Audio CS2
Rears - Polk Monitor 40s
Subwoofer - BIC America F12 Subwoofer
Receiver: Harmon Karon AVR3600

I'm still waiting on my Monitor 40s, BIC America F12 Subwoofer, and Harmon Kardon AVR3600 to be delivered but I wanted to get the information early so I know how to calibrate them properly. I've read online on numerous websites that tuning the speakers to the correct crossover frequency will give the speakers more range (?) and will sound better. I'm not entirely sure what frequency the speakers need to be at for optimum sound. I know it's subjective to each persons living room specification. However, if someone could let me know the frequencies that will get me the most out of the speakers, then I can use that as a starting point.

My next question has to do with the subwoofer. Now, I haven't received the BIC F12 yet but I've seen pictures where it has a knob on that back that controls the crossover frequency. How do you determine what frequency the subwoofer has to be at? I'm assuming the lower the frequency, the better the audio from the subwoofer should sound. Do I just turn it all the way to the lowest frequency and start slowly increasing until I get good sound coming from the subwoofer? Thank you so much in advance for the advice and I look forward to hearing from everyone.

specd_out

Most receivers have a setting in them that allows you to set your speakers to small or large. The reccomended setting is set it all to small regardless of the actual size of the speakers. The crossover should be set to 80hz in the receiver. The will send everything lower then 80hz to the sub.

Once you have done that go to the sub and turn the cross over knob to the highest setting it should be around 120hz. Since you are using the receiver to control the crossover you can just max out the knob on the sub.

You can experiment with your setup. I found that In my rig it sounds better having my left and right channel speakers set to large. Thats not true for everyone. Its something you have to try and see if it works for you.

ybaiani

Just to clarify, so that I do this correctly, set all of my speakers to small. For the subwoofer, set the crossover to 80hz on the receiver then turn up the knob on the rear to it's highest. I can definitely do that. I was just confused about the 80hz for the crossover and where that needed to be set.

ravaneli

I love your selection of system components! Excellent match all around. Very interested in your impressions from the BIC sub. I was considering that over the DSW 660 and now I think I should have tried that.

The crossover should be set no more than 80 with that setup, but if the HK has a XO 70 use that instead. Then 60 would be even better, but I am not sure the speakers will easily go down that low. Just check them both and pick the option you like better.

Generally you want to select the XO freq as low as possible without losing a fraction of the frequency range. The reason is the the higher the frequency, the worse the off axis response. Even the 100 hrz note which has a pretty good off axis I prefer to hear from the speakers so it is pointed from the speakers in the right direction.

Keep in mind however that if you set the XO too low, for example 60, and the speakers can go down only to 80 (at normal listening levels) the 60-80 range will not be played by any speaker, and even though an untrained ear is not gona notice that, you still want to avoid that.

Using the SUB for the high bass range (60-100) can be better in some circumstances though. For example if the speakers are not very powerful themselves or don't get enough power from the AVR, you may get better effect by routing those frequencies to the sub, because the sub has it's own amp and plenty of juice to move air in that range. So it is kind of a tradeoff of off axis response for power.

ybaiani

ravaneli wrote: »

I love your selection of system components! Excellent match all around. Very interested in your impressions from the BIC sub. I was considering that over the DSW 660 and now I think I should have tried that.

The crossover should be set no more than 80 with that setup, but if the HK has a XO 70 use that instead. Then 60 would be even better, but I am not sure the speakers will easily go down that low. Just check them both and pick the option you like better.

Generally you want to select the XO freq as low as possible without losing a fraction of the frequency range. The reason is the the higher the frequency, the worse the off axis response. Even the 100 hrz note which has a pretty good off axis I prefer to hear from the speakers so it is pointed from the speakers in the right direction.

Keep in mind however that if you set the XO too low, for example 60, and the speakers can go down only to 80 (at normal listening levels) the 60-80 range will not be played by any speaker, and even though an untrained ear is not gona notice that, you still want to avoid that.

Using the SUB for the high bass range (60-100) can be better in some circumstances though. For example if the speakers are not very powerful themselves or don't get enough power from the AVR, you may get better effect by routing those frequencies to the sub, because the sub has it's own amp and plenty of juice to move air in that range. So it is kind of a tradeoff of off axis response for power.

Thank you!! I will definitely let you know how the BIC F12 is in my system. It should be delivered on Monday as well as the Monitor 40s. The AVR3600 will be in later today but I won't be messing with it until everything comes in. I also ordered some banana plugs from Monoprice to help make it a little bit cleaner in terms of wiring. I'm really excited to have everything going. I'm having a small get together next Thursday/Friday so I want this project completed. Note, I ended up getting the sub for 188 from Amazon.

Thank you so much for your advice as well as specd_out. I'm definitely going to try those settings out. Prior to this system, I was using an Onkyo HT-RC360 and while I liked it, felt that I was getting much from my system. I now know that I made stupid mistakes during calibration. The Onkyo manual suggests that when you have tower speakers and a very large center channel speaker, to set them both at full band. On that setup, I had 2 Polk PSW10's and did not like what I heard from the two of them together. Again, my lack of knowledge on calibrating is most likely why they sound like "wrrr wrrr wrrr" when I had them on. In addition, I was barely getting any sound from the surround speakers and chalked that up to the speaker not being powerful enough to generate sound from the rear (Polk Monitor 30s).

I'm really stoked to be able to start tweaking the new system to what the speakers can actually do versus what I had. I'm getting creative with my surround speaker placement. I have two older tables that I'm going to end up drilling a hole through to run the wires so it's nice and neat. I'm currently renting so I can't run the wires through the wall per my landlord's request. Anyway, thank you so much for both of your advice and I welcome anybody's advice when it comes to tweaking/calibrating this surround.


Best Regards,


Yusuf

ybaiani

I attached the crossover frequency portion of the AVR3600 Manual for reference if anybody wanted to look at it. I just had a few things on the manual that were a bit confusing.

"For each main speaker, select one of the seven crossover frequencies: 40Hz, 60Hz, 80Hz, 100Hz, 120Hz, 150Hz or 200Hz. If the crossover frequency is below 40Hz, select the first option, ?Large?. This setting doesn?t refer to the speaker?s physical size, but to its frequency response, which is also called ?full range?."

So it seems like the 80hz option will be what I set individual speaker per everyone's guidelines here. If there is an option for small, would that be better than setting each crossover at 80hz or is small the better way to go??

"Specify the size of the subwoofer?s transducer as 8, 10, 12 or 15 inches. The AVR always sets the subwoofer crossover to 100Hz, but uses the transducer size for equalization. Write down the settings in Table A3 in the appendix."

"Sub Mode
Move the cursor to the Sub Mode line. This setting depends upon how you programmed the front left and right speakers.
? If you set the front speakers to a numeric crossover frequency, the subwoofer setting will always be SUB. All low-frequency information will always be sent to the subwoofer. If you don?t have a subwoofer, either upgrade to full-range speakers or add a subwoofer at the earliest opportunity.
? If you set the front speakers to LARGE, select one of the three settings for the subwoofer.
N L/R+LFE: This setting sends all low-frequency information to the subwoofer, including both information that would nor- mally be played through the front left and right speakers, and the special low-frequency effects (LFE) channel information.
N Off: Select this setting when no subwoofer is in use. All low-frequency information will be sent to the front left and right speakers.
N LFE: This setting plays low-frequency information contained in the left and right program channels through the front speakers, and directs only the LFE channel to the subwoofer."

I'll set the transducer size to 12" since that's the size of the sub. However, what should I choose the crossover frequency of the subwoofer to be? Also 80hz? I'll be setting it to LFE mode only as I've read that that's the best way to go. Here, I feel like LFE mode would be the best as that's what I've read on other forums. Thoughts?

Tankman

ybaiani, Run the EQ set up it will help you out a lot,but you may still have too tweak it some.I have the H/K3600 and have found that if you do not run the EQ set up on it,Master Audio or True HD will not show up on it.Good luck.

ravaneli

You do not need the XO of the subwoofer. The receiver will route everything under 80 to the sub, so the sub doesn't need to filter anything out.

Careful with the LFE. It is applicable only to home theater signal from the cable box. Using LFE for music creates incredible distortion.

Try the 60 hrz XO as well, because on the spec sheet your speakers do go down that low. In practice however i doubt it, but it is possible. Just try them both and use the one you like better.

Geoff4rfc

ybaiani, welcome to the forum

I've got something to really tease your brain after the info you've heard here. After you check my gear in my signature, know that I have my set up like this; mains 40Hz, center 40Hz, surrounds 40Hz, wides 40Hz, LPF of LFE(sub) 120Hz and my speakers are set to small.

This is the way my EQ set it up. I've fiddled around with and tried 60, 70 and 80Hz settings on all speakers, even 50Hz here and there, but the current set up is pretty bomb.

As Tankman suggested, just let your EQ from your receiver set things up, take a listen and go from there.

ravaneli

40 is sweet, but it is only a tease for him. You have A9s emo amped. He has AVR driven monitors. I seriously doubt he can get away with even 60.

Also you have the 40 - 120 range played by both the speakers and the amp. The receiver in my car can do that, but most home theater receivers cannot. He will not be able to cut his speakers at 60 and at the same time use the sub all the way up to, say, 120.

Also, unless everything is in perfect phase, playing the low range from both the speakers and the sub will result in major cancellations (and HEAT!)

Tankman

@Geoff4rfc,I see you have the XPA-2,XPA-3 and PolkRTiA9's.How are you liking them with them nice amps ya got?I almost went with the RTiA9's and was looking at them real hard they are a really nice looking speaker too.But went with LSi-15's got them at a great price new.They are do in my home Monday.OP sorry didn't mean too steal your thread but i had too ask Geoff4rfc about his set up it is a nice one.:cool:

Geoff4rfc

ravaneli wrote: »

40 is sweet, but it is only a tease for him. You have A9s emo amped. He has AVR driven monitors. I seriously doubt he can get away with even 60.


Also you have the 40 - 120 range played by both the speakers and the amp. The receiver in my car can do that, but most home theater receivers cannot. He will not be able to cut his speakers at 60 and at the same time use the sub all the way up to, say, 120.

Also, unless everything is in perfect phase, playing the low range from both the speakers and the sub will result in major cancellations (and HEAT!)

Check out the info that Kuntasensei provides here, without seeing this before hand, it confirms my set up.
http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?128004-What-is-the-benefit-of-bi-wiring&p=1734807#post1734807

Tankman wrote: »

@Geoff4rfc,I see you have the XPA-2,XPA-3 and PolkRTiA9's.How are you liking them with them nice amps ya got?I almost went with the RTiA9's and was looking at them real hard they are a really nice looking speaker too.But went with LSi-15's got them at a great price new.They are do in my home Monday.OP sorry didn't mean too steal your thread but i had too ask Geoff4rfc about his set up it is a nice one.:cool:

Thank you! I gotta tell you, I'm really loving this set up. The A9's just keep getting better and better with both movies and music. I take out the sub and put the 9's to full band and they rock in 2ch mode.

My long term plan is to replace the M70's with A7's, replace the M40's with A5's and employ a second empire. I'll keep the amps as they are, the 807 should drive the A5's just fine, eventually.

Yeah, sorry OP for stepping on your thread.

Kex

Personally, when I had a harman/kardon (a great match with Polk, in my opinion), the EzSet/EQ automated calibration actually identified the speakers (fairly big Polk RT55 and a matching monster CS400 center) as full range and large. So I tried that, and compared it with the speakers set to small and the crossover set from 40Hz to 80Hz. Mostly, I much preferred 40Hz or 60Hz to 80Hz, but maybe that's because I like tight bass, not sloppy bass. The other calibration settings, when checked with an SPL meter, were already very accurate. Some of this is going to be personal preference. With an overall frequency response of 38Hz - 25kHz, and a lower -3dB limit of 48Hz for the Monitor 60, I think the 40Hz and 60Hz settings are certainly worth a try. Try 80Hz as well and you'll soon know which way your personal preferences tend to sway.

In case it hasn't been made clear to you yet: remember to connect your subwoofer with a cable, not speaker wires! Connecting with speaker wires is a completely different method, which uses the subwoofer's crossover technology, not the receiver, and you won't get the same results from Low Frequency Effects during movies.

Generally speaking, h/k rate the power output of their receivers conservatively (and all channels driven simultaneously, not just one or two). Those speakers are not hard to drive, according to their ratings, so I should think this would work very well. It's a nice system your setting up. I would also give serious consideration to a Logitech Harmony remote, if you haven't done so already.

ybaiani

Kex wrote: »

Personally, when I had a harman/kardon (a great match with Polk, in my opinion), the EzSet/EQ automated calibration actually identified the speakers (fairly big Polk RT55 and a matching monster CS400 center) as full range and large. So I tried that, and compared it with the speakers set to small and the crossover set from 40Hz to 80Hz. Mostly, I much preferred 40Hz or 60Hz to 80Hz, but maybe that's because I like tight bass, not sloppy bass. The other calibration settings, when checked with an SPL meter, were already very accurate. Some of this is going to be personal preference. With an overall frequency response of 38Hz - 25kHz, and a lower -3dB limit of 48Hz for the Monitor 60, I think the 40Hz and 60Hz settings are certainly worth a try. Try 80Hz as well and you'll soon know which way your personal preferences tend to sway.

In case it hasn't been made clear to you yet: remember to connect your subwoofer with a cable, not speaker wires! Connecting with speaker wires is a completely different method, which uses the subwoofer's crossover technology, not the receiver, and you won't get the same results from Low Frequency Effects during movies.

Generally speaking, h/k rate the power output of their receivers conservatively (and all channels driven simultaneously, not just one or two). Those speakers are not hard to drive, according to their ratings, so I should think this would work very well. It's a nice system your setting up. I would also give serious consideration to a Logitech Harmony remote, if you haven't done so already.

Thank you for your advice! I have speaker cables already on the way and prefer that to wiring them. I'll definitely try the 40hz - 80hz settings as soon as the receiver gets here (have to go pick it up from UPS tomorrow as they left a note on the door for a later delivery). I'm hoping my Monoprice banana plugs come in tomorrow so I can start prepping the living room for when the new speakers and receiver come in. I have work and school on Monday so I won't have as much time to get everything going so any little bit of time I can save helps. I'll be sure to give everyone here updates on how the install is going and the sound difference from when I have these fully setup versus the Onkyo receiver I had.

I'll also post a review on my BIC F12 as compared to the two Polk PSW10's I initially had hooked up. I know ravaneli was interested in what I thought about it so I'll chime in as soon as have them setup.

For testing the various frequencies, is there a particular song or movie that you prefer that would allow me to hear the difference so to speak when I'm calibrating?? And is there a specific song/movie for testing the bass?

By the way, I do want to thank everyone so far for helping me with this. I know I have a lot of beginner questions needing answered and really don't know where I'd be without everyone's guidance. This forum has given me such a better experience than other forums I've used in years past. I hope I'll be able to bring some added value when my expertise increases and be a contributing member of this forum.

Kex

I'm confused! Are you connecting your subwoofer using speaker wire, from the main speaker terminals, or with a subwoofer cable from the LFE out connection on the back of the receiver? If it's the former, not the latter, then you are completely bypassing the receiver's crossover settings and should set your speakers to full, then adjust the crossover settings on the subwoofer accordingly, but it won't be the same for movies. Some might argue that it would be better for music listening that way, in which case there might be better options to achieve that end, but I have never even tried it, so I won't comment further.

Geoff4rfc

Kex wrote: »

I'm confused!

I think he's got it. He hasn't received his receiver yet and is getting ready to lay out wire for his speakers, at least I hope that's what he conveying. We shall soon see.

michael1947

Welcome to the club Ybainai. As you can see by the responses there are various ways to run your HT...the most important thing to remember that this is a hobby that you and your family can enjoy. Play around with things and listen to the results of your changes. You can hook up subs lots of ways and they're all correct, just different. I like your gear selection and expect you will hear and see amazing results. Remember this: NEVER EVER MAKE A HOT SWAP. If you pull 1 speaker wire, or make 1 HDMI change...anything plugged into anything then shut EVERYTHING OFF BEFORE MAKING THE CHANGE, even so much as an antenna lead or network hook-up. Enjoy yourself.

ybaiani

Kex wrote: »

I'm confused! Are you connecting your subwoofer using speaker wire, from the main speaker terminals, or with a subwoofer cable from the LFE out connection on the back of the receiver? If it's the former, not the latter, then you are completely bypassing the receiver's crossover settings and should set your speakers to full, then adjust the crossover settings on the subwoofer accordingly, but it won't be the same for movies. Some might argue that it would be better for music listening that way, in which case there might be better options to achieve that end, but I have never even tried it, so I won't comment further.

Sorry about the confusion. I will be using a subwoofer connector to connect the sub to the LFE connections on the receiver. I'll be using this setup, most likely, 75% movies 25% music. Hope that clarifies my mistake!!

Geoff4rfc wrote: »

I think he's got it. He hasn't received his receiver yet and is getting ready to lay out wire for his speakers, at least I hope that's what he conveying. We shall soon see.

You are correct Geoff!

michael1947 wrote: »

Welcome to the club Ybainai. As you can see by the responses there are various ways to run your HT...the most important thing to remember that this is a hobby that you and your family can enjoy. Play around with things and listen to the results of your changes. You can hook up subs lots of ways and they're all correct, just different. I like your gear selection and expect you will hear and see amazing results. Remember this: NEVER EVER MAKE A HOT SWAP. If you pull 1 speaker wire, or make 1 HDMI change...anything plugged into anything then shut EVERYTHING OFF BEFORE MAKING THE CHANGE, even so much as an antenna lead or network hook-up. Enjoy yourself.

I will make sure not to do that. Thank you for the advice. I'll post pictures and give updates as they come in. I'm so excited to hear what this system can actually do. Being my first home theater setup (other than satellites in a HTIB), I'm not sure what to expect. But with what everyone is saying about my current setup, I think I'll be quite satisfied.



By the way, ybaiani is just my first initial and last name. My name is Yusuf if anyone wanted to know.

ybaiani

Hey everyone, just wanted to let you know that my HK receiver came in and banana plugs. I spent about 3 hours yesterday cleaning up all of the wires and hdmi cables in the back. I re-wired all of my speakers except the rears and subwoofer since they're not in yet. I've got to say, the HK receiver is absolutely beautiful and I have been getting great sound out of my fronts/center. I can't wait for the entire HT to be setup tomorrow. I'll give everyone an update as well tomorrow in regards to the crossover frequency the EQ sets up for me. If I end up not liking it, I'll try 60-80hz and see where that takes me. Thanks again!

Geoff4rfc

Congratulations! You are well on your way to movie/music central. Btw, tell everyone I know in party town I said hey. And if you ever get to the Back Room, tell Dan and Dave they need a new act......and, if you ever get into Conans Pizza, have deep dish for me.

ybaiani

Geoff4rfc wrote: »

Congratulations! You are well on your way to movie/music central. Btw, tell everyone I know in party town I said hey. And if you ever get to the Back Room, tell Dan and Dave they need a new act......and, if you ever get into Conans Pizza, have deep dish for me.

The Back Room closed!!! As for Conan's Pizza, I've never tried it. But, I will get a deep dish for you and let you know how it is. Have you ever had Home Slice in Downtown ATX? It's fanastic.

Geoff4rfc

ybaiani wrote: »

The Back Room closed!!! As for Conan's Pizza, I've never tried it. But, I will get a deep dish for you and let you know how it is. Have you ever had Home Slice in Downtown ATX? It's fanastic.

The Back Room CLOSED?!?!?????? *A moment of silence while crying a river a tears* Oh my gosh! I became a man (okay, not like that) in the Back Room. 1977, I was 17, legal was 18, never got carded, never a cover, $1.25 pitchers of Lone Star beer and the best up and coming rock, blues and rhythm and blues stars to ever wannabe. I killed some of my best brain cells in that place.

Don't know about the ATX, I haven't been back to Austin since '82. I'm from S.A. and lived in Austin just before I joined the Air Force and got transplanted up in the great Northwest. I'm sure a ton has changed since then. I do remember this guy with a cart by the park downtown that had the best tacos.

Another 4-5 years and I'm done up here, I'll be back home and headed to Austin a time or two to sample the goods. I'll be on the look out for the ATX, or is it Homeslice? And what the heck is downtown ATX? Wait, are you saying downtown Austin TX? Sheesh, it's just been too long.

ybaiani

Geoff4rfc wrote: »

The Back Room CLOSED?!?!?????? *A moment of silence while crying a river a tears* Oh my gosh! I became a man (okay, not like that) in the Back Room. 1977, I was 17, legal was 18, never got carded, never a cover, $1.25 pitchers of Lone Star beer and the best up and coming rock, blues and rhythm and blues stars to ever wannabe. I killed some of my best brain cells in that place.

Don't know about the ATX, I haven't been back to Austin since '82. I'm from S.A. and lived in Austin just before I joined the Air Force and got transplanted up in the great Northwest. I'm sure a ton has changed since then. I do remember this guy with a cart by the park downtown that had the best tacos.

Another 4-5 years and I'm done up here, I'll be back home and headed to Austin a time or two to sample the goods. I'll be on the look out for the ATX, or is it Homeslice? And what the heck is downtown ATX? Wait, are you saying downtown Austin TX? Sheesh, it's just been too long.

ATX = Austin, Texas
Oh man, Austin has changed so much. It will be hard to recognize since they've made so many changes just in the short time I've been here. Emo's is the new Back Room and has had some great success. The rise of students makes downtown a nightmare on Friday/Saturday. There are so many awesome food places and bars here now that you have to try. I'll list them below.

Best Tacos:
Matamoros Tacos
10304 N Lamar Blvd
Austin, TX 78753

Best Pizza:
Home Slice Pizza
1415 S Congress St
Austin, TX 78704

Best BBQ
1) The Salt Lick
18300 FM 1826
Driftwood, TX 78619
(512) 858-4959

2) Franklins BBQ
900 E 11th St
Austin, TX 78702
(512) 653-1187

Best Donuts
Round Rock Donuts
106 W Liberty
Round Rock, TX 78664
(512) 255-3629

Great Bars:
Casino El Camino
517 E 6th St
Austin, TX 78701
(512) 469-9330

Moonshine Patio Bar & Grill
303 Red River St
Austin, TX 78701
(512) 236-9599

Fine Dining
Uchiko
4200 N Lamar Blvd
Austin, TX 78756
(512) 916-4808

Must Try Food Carts/B]
Kebablicious
450 E 7th St / 7th & Trinity
Austin, TX 78701
(512) 468-1065

Flip Happy Crepes
400 Josephine St
Austin, TX 78704
(512) 552-9034

Way South Philly
6th and Waller
Austin, TX 78702
(512) 771-6969

Geoff4rfc

Thank you my brother! I'm surprised Best tacos only got (1) and Best BBQ only got (2). What the heck, I'll try them all and decide for myself

ybaiani

Haha, there's such a huge debate here in Austin regarding BBQ. Some say it's Franklins and others say The Salt Lick. I love both and I know you will too! If you do go to Uchiko, make sure you sit at the sushi bar. You get free food sent out to you and the sushi chefs are amazing. The restaurant is owned by Tyson Cole who competed on Iron Chef and has been a guest judge on Top Chef. You'll be very pleased with Uchiko. If you ever need recommendations for Austin, feel free to PM me. I promise I won't steer you wrong

Geoff4rfc

Your the man, thanks, can't wait to get back home. I'm drooling all over myself thinking of those places.

ybaiani

Hey everyone! Here to give everyone a quick update.

After rewiring the speakers using banana plugs and finding a way to mount my rear speakers, I've got to say that everything sounds fantastic. The BIC F12 subwoofer is well worth the money and I find the sound coming from it better than the two PSW10s I initially had.

Initially, the audio sounded good but wasn't great. The subwoofer was sounding a little funky and was actually hurting my ears. I went ahead and did an EQ and got some weird settings.

1st EQ:
Fronts: 100hz
Center: 40hz
Rears: 80hz

The sub sounded really boomy with these settings and I'm not too sure why. I then lowered the mic and got it the tripod to be near ear level. The second EQ came out to the settings that Kex had suggested.

Fronts: 40hz
Center: 40hz
Rears: 40hz

These settings sound fantastic and the sub sounds significantly better. I feel the speakers may still be a bit stiff since I've only had the fronts/center for less than a month and the rears/subwoofer for less than a day. I imagine that the audio will only continue to sound better and better. Are these settings realistic for my system??

Geoff4rfc

ybaiani wrote: »

Fronts: 40hz
Center: 40hz
Rears: 40hz

These settings sound fantastic and the sub sounds significantly better. I feel the speakers may still be a bit stiff since I've only had the fronts/center for less than a month and the rears/subwoofer for less than a day. I imagine that the audio will only continue to sound better and better. Are these settings realistic for my system??

Congratulations! Yes, you're good

When I had 70's, 40's, 30's and CS2, they were set to 40,60,60,40 respectively, then readjusted to 40hz across the board.

Audessey had my current set up at 40hz across the board and it sounds great, even better than the former (due inpart to the upgrade), as the former sounded it's best with the 40hz setting.

ybaiani

Geoff4rfc wrote: »

Congratulations! Yes, you're good

When I had 70's, 40's, 30's and CS2, they were set to 40,60,60,40 respectively, then readjusted to 40hz across the board.

Audessey had my current set up at 40hz across the board and it sounds great, even better than the former (due inpart to the upgrade), as the former sounded it's best with the 40hz setting.

Thanks so much Geoff!! I love how everything sound. I'm going to be converting some audio in iTunes to Lossless format and testing the audio. I'm loving what I'm hearing so far though. I can't stress that enough. Movies sound great and I can't wait to do some more testing

ravaneli

Ybaiani, something here is not right. There's no way these speakers go down that low. They are great speakers but not that great.

Do me a favor, google "50 hrz note" and download it. Basically it is a 10 second 50 hrz dash.

Let me know if it comes out of any speakers, and if yes - from which.

If 40 is your cutoff point (given that you have all speakers cut off) then the 50 hrz note is supposed to come out of the speakers, but I kind of doubt they will dig that low, especially under normal listening levels.

If you do hear the note - you are golden.

ybaiani

ravaneli wrote: »

Ybaiani, something here is not right. There's no way these speakers go down that low. They are great speakers but not that great.

Do me a favor, google "50 hrz note" and download it. Basically it is a 10 second 50 hrz dash.

Let me know if it comes out of any speakers, and if yes - from which.

If 40 is your cutoff point (given that you have all speakers cut off) then the 50 hrz note is supposed to come out of the speakers, but I kind of doubt they will dig that low, especially under normal listening levels.

If you do hear the note - you are golden.

Doing it right now. Trying to find the frequency but am not having any luck. Will post updates here in a sec.