Yaqin MS-34d

this_is_vv
this_is_vv Posts: 24
edited December 2012 in Electronics
Has anyone tried this...wanted to know if some one have used this Amplifier...the connection to be used is

PC-> DAC-> MS-34D ->Speakers.....


aand if some one has used it what is the tube rolling on this..


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  • michaeljhsda2
    michaeljhsda2 Posts: 2,184
    edited February 2012
    I have the Yaqin MS-20L and it sounds really good hooked up via PC-> DAC-> MS-20L ->Speakers. Give the stock tubes a listen for a few weeks. They're pretty good tubes IMHO. YMMV
    SDA SRS 2.3TL's
    Silk Audio MS-90-BT integrated tube amp
    Yaqin MS-20L integrated tube amp
    SDA 2B TL's
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  • this_is_vv
    this_is_vv Posts: 24
    edited February 2012
    michaeljhsda2 wrote: »
    I have the Yaqin MS-20L and it sounds really good hooked up via PC-> DAC-> MS-20L ->Speakers. Give the stock tubes a listen for a few weeks. They're pretty good tubes IMHO. YMMV

    Wil try what kinda music showed the biggest difference to you...also i have peachtree dac with tube preamp...


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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited February 2012
    this_is_vv wrote: »
    Wil try what kinda music showed the biggest difference to you...also i have peachtree dac with tube preamp...


    V

    As a yaqin owner I will say you will notice a huge difference with anything you throw at it. This is especially true in the bass department and the vocals come over so fluid and clear it just makes it way more enjoyable to listen for a long period of time without fatigue. With all the yaqin products I think you would enjoy them better if you replace the preamp 6n1 tubes but the power tubes are really good so they can stay

    I notice like my yaqin you only need to replace 4 6n1 pre tubes so you could go for some awesome genalex gold lion 6922's that gets used on all the high end preamps for a worth while upgrade. That would be $180 new on here or ebay @$45 a tube. For now though just bring one home and enjoy all your music

    When I got my yaqin I popped in some rage against the machine and i could not believe I was listening to the same set of speakers. Tube amps are awesome
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  • michaeljhsda2
    michaeljhsda2 Posts: 2,184
    edited February 2012
    ^^^ What he said ^^^
    SDA SRS 2.3TL's
    Silk Audio MS-90-BT integrated tube amp
    Yaqin MS-20L integrated tube amp
    SDA 2B TL's
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited February 2012
    How's this for some yaqin tube **** michaeljhsda2 ?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/YAQIN-MS-845-Mono-Block-Power-Amplifier-Pre-Amplifier-/250843676234?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Amplifiers&hash=item3a6772be4a
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  • michaeljhsda2
    michaeljhsda2 Posts: 2,184
    edited February 2012
    Nice! I've been waiting for the monoblocks to come out. I have my AI-1 ready to go!
    SDA SRS 2.3TL's
    Silk Audio MS-90-BT integrated tube amp
    Yaqin MS-20L integrated tube amp
    SDA 2B TL's
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,901
    edited February 2012
    the yaqin ms 34d uses 6j1/6ak5 signal tubes not 6n1/6dj8 of the mc 10l.
    Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
    Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
    Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
    Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
    Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
    Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
    Puritan PSM156
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  • this_is_vv
    this_is_vv Posts: 24
    edited February 2012
    i have been told this is a good replacement...

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/350535034157#ht_3324wt_1140
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,901
    edited February 2012
    i have read the 6j1p-ev is the more rugged tube.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/4x-MATCHED-TUBES-6J1P-EV-GOLD-GRID-6J1P-EF95-6F32-6AK5-NOS-QUAD-/250987117386?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item3a6fff7b4a
    i have some 1944 western electric/tung sol 6ak5 in my 20l.
    Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
    Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
    Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
    Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
    Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
    Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
    Puritan PSM156
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  • this_is_vv
    this_is_vv Posts: 24
    edited February 2012
    polkfarmboy wrote: »
    As a yaqin owner I will say you will notice a huge difference with anything you throw at it. This is especially true in the bass department and the vocals come over so fluid and clear it just makes it way more enjoyable to listen for a long period of time without fatigue. With all the yaqin products I think you would enjoy them better if you replace the preamp 6n1 tubes but the power tubes are really good so they can stay

    I notice like my yaqin you only need to replace 4 6n1 pre tubes so you could go for some awesome genalex gold lion 6922's that gets used on all the high end preamps for a worth while upgrade. That would be $180 new on here or ebay @$45 a tube. For now though just bring one home and enjoy all your music

    When I got my yaqin I popped in some rage against the machine and i could not believe I was listening to the same set of speakers. Tube amps are awesome

    My speaker are nto full range they are 42Hz and above...what should i expect i am still looking for a good sub ...
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  • this_is_vv
    this_is_vv Posts: 24
    edited February 2012
    marvda1 wrote: »
    i have read the 6j1p-ev is the more rugged tube.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/4x-MATCHED-TUBES-6J1P-EV-GOLD-GRID-6J1P-EF95-6F32-6AK5-NOS-QUAD-/250987117386?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item3a6fff7b4a
    i have some 1944 western electric/tung sol 6ak5 in my 20l.

    I am in mail with the guy who is selling both of the tubes and he is the one who recomended me that tube one which i put it on recomendation..
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,901
    edited February 2012
    i emailed the seller and the difference being the ev's last longer. no difference in sound.
    Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
    Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
    Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
    Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
    Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
    Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
    Puritan PSM156
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  • this_is_vv
    this_is_vv Posts: 24
    edited February 2012
    marvda1 wrote: »
    i emailed the seller and the difference being the ev's last longer. no difference in sound.

    Thanks for this...waiting to let my Amp arrive now.....
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,166
    edited February 2012
    this_is_vv wrote: »
    i have been told this is a good replacement...

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/350535034157#ht_3324wt_1140

    Those are nice tubes. The Russian signal tubes from the 60's are the ones to get. That is also an excellent seller as I have bought tubes from him before. Those will be much nicer than the stock Chinese tubes.

    Voshkod made some really nice tubes back then. I have a pair of 60's 6N1P-EV for one of my integrated's.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • this_is_vv
    this_is_vv Posts: 24
    edited February 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Those are nice tubes. The Russian signal tubes from the 60's are the ones to get. That is also an excellent seller as I have bought tubes from him before. Those will be much nicer than the stock Chinese tubes.

    Voshkod made some really nice tubes back then. I have a pair of 60's 6N1P-EV for one of my integrated's.

    H9
    Loved your sign...amp is on way will be here on saturday....

    also my speakers are Vienna acoustics haydns...i need to get a sub as they dont go low...max they go is 42 Hz...can anyone recomende sub to be used again the setup is
    Pc-> Peachtree decco2 dac (Tube preamp)-> Yaqin ms-34d -> VA haydn speakers...

    which sub to get and where to put it

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    this_is_vv Posts: 24
    edited February 2012
    Bumped
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,901
    edited February 2012
    any reason you picked the 34d over the 20l?
    Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
    Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
    Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
    Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
    Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
    Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
    Puritan PSM156
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  • Braddles
    Braddles Posts: 228
    edited February 2012
    marvda1 wrote: »
    any reason you picked the 34d over the 20l?

    Yes good question.
    2 Channel
    Amp - Jas Audio Bravo 3.2 set
    Power Cord - Tunami GPX
    CDP - Marantz cd6002 - Audio gd Ref 5 Dac
    Speakers - Tekton Lore,Polk Audio RTA11tl completely refreshed.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,166
    edited February 2012
    this_is_vv wrote: »
    Loved your sign...amp is on way will be here on saturday....

    also my speakers are Vienna acoustics haydns...i need to get a sub as they dont go low...max they go is 42 Hz...can anyone recomende sub to be used again the setup is
    Pc-> Peachtree decco2 dac (Tube preamp)-> Yaqin ms-34d -> VA haydn speakers...

    which sub to get and where to put it

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    this_is_vv wrote: »
    Bumped

    Maybe start a seperate thread about subs. Your question is buried in here.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • this_is_vv
    this_is_vv Posts: 24
    edited February 2012
    marvda1 wrote: »
    any reason you picked the 34d over the 20l?

    Got a good deal...under 400$ shipped to me...thought to try this route before i go to more expensive route of Conrad johnson etc...

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  • michaeljhsda2
    michaeljhsda2 Posts: 2,184
    edited February 2012
    That's a good deal. Can't wait to hear your impressions.
    SDA SRS 2.3TL's
    Silk Audio MS-90-BT integrated tube amp
    Yaqin MS-20L integrated tube amp
    SDA 2B TL's
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  • this_is_vv
    this_is_vv Posts: 24
    edited February 2012
    michaeljhsda2 wrote: »
    That's a good deal. Can't wait to hear your impressions.

    i am waiting too...it is coming tomorrow and i am working from home tomorrow...

    BTw i have two setup one what i describe here

    PC -> DAC -> Yaqin ms-34d -> VA

    Second is my home theater which is used 60% for music and 40% movies...it is still 2 channel system

    Ps3/TV/Xbox ->marantz sr6005 preamp -> B&K reference 200.2 ->Gershamn acoustics spectaor Full range speaker

    where would be best buck for money comes...if i replace B&K with yaqin ....though B&K is CLass A amp for some watts
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  • michaeljhsda2
    michaeljhsda2 Posts: 2,184
    edited February 2012
    If it was me I would try it out on both speaker systems. First the Vienna's and then the Gershamn's via the PC to DAC route.
    SDA SRS 2.3TL's
    Silk Audio MS-90-BT integrated tube amp
    Yaqin MS-20L integrated tube amp
    SDA 2B TL's
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  • this_is_vv
    this_is_vv Posts: 24
    edited February 2012
    michaeljhsda2 wrote: »
    If it was me I would try it out on both speaker systems. First the Vienna's and then the Gershamn's via the PC to DAC route.


    Thats the plan too....but the Yaqin might stay msot at PC side where i listen 80% of my music there...

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  • Braddles
    Braddles Posts: 228
    edited February 2012
    Looking forward to your thoughts on the yaqin. I'm considering the ms 20l at the moment. Don't forget the pic's!
    2 Channel
    Amp - Jas Audio Bravo 3.2 set
    Power Cord - Tunami GPX
    CDP - Marantz cd6002 - Audio gd Ref 5 Dac
    Speakers - Tekton Lore,Polk Audio RTA11tl completely refreshed.
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  • this_is_vv
    this_is_vv Posts: 24
    edited February 2012
    Braddles wrote: »
    Looking forward to your thoughts on the yaqin. I'm considering the ms 20l at the moment. Don't forget the pic's!

    may be i dont have ears...earlier my system was

    PC->DAC->Marantz MA-500 -> VA

    Now

    PC->DAC->Yaqin Ms-34d -> VA

    honestly there is some diffference but will is ay HUGE nope...is it worth the money (luckily the differencewas 150$ for me between Ma-500 and Yaqin) for me its OK...i am still listening...may be i am in nearfield speaker...

    BUT personally there is NO WOW factor for me...if u close my eyes i might not be able to tell the difference between these two...

    again its my own humble opinion.. i will try changing the stock 61np tubes and will see if there is difference...if not

    i have B&K reference 200.2 i might move that to here...but no WOW factor...

    i dont have lows on this system .. i am getting a subwoofer so i will see if that will make a difference ...but again my ears are not showing any big difference so is my wife's ears...



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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,901
    edited February 2012
    give it a little time to burn in and then put on some acoustic jazz and compare.
    Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
    Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
    Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
    Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
    Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
    Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
    Puritan PSM156
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  • this_is_vv
    this_is_vv Posts: 24
    edited February 2012
    marvda1 wrote: »
    give it a little time to burn in and then put on some acoustic jazz and compare.

    it is used one...he told didnt used more then 20-30 hours...so let me wait for around 100 hours..
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  • Braddles
    Braddles Posts: 228
    edited February 2012
    Upgrading the stock valves should also improve things a bit too.
    2 Channel
    Amp - Jas Audio Bravo 3.2 set
    Power Cord - Tunami GPX
    CDP - Marantz cd6002 - Audio gd Ref 5 Dac
    Speakers - Tekton Lore,Polk Audio RTA11tl completely refreshed.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,166
    edited February 2012
    Geez, people are quick to judge. Spend some time with it and junk the stock tubes for something better. A tube amp is really only as good as the tubes you run. Unfortuneatly, stock Chinese tubes are about the worst.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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