That one piece that you shouldn't have let go...
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Hmm... I've had good experiences with 2 different Technics EQ's, most recently early this year when I sold my SH-8057. I thought it was a very solid unit. All the specs suggested so... so i thought.
Seems perhaps I can do better. I would certainly take the advice. Anything to combat the inefficient Pioneer EQ I dislike fiddling with.
Also, I haven't found a SH-8057 for less than $80 used when I DO find one. I sold mine for $100 back in January.
I'm just yankin' your chain Drenis. Though equalizers and me don't gel well together, If that floats your boat,rock out to it by all means.
If you don't like the equalizer in your receiver, why not just not use it ? If you have a direct mode,or pure audio mode, that will bypass the equalization you dislike.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
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You need a real EQ, a parametric, Find a SAE 180 for around $50 on ebay, I have one, no pretty flashing lights, just more control than any graphic EQ, you get to adjust frequency, bandwith and level for highs and lows in both channels separately.
I always understood that slider style controls are more susceptible to noise in the stream as they get dirty. (Had an Old Toshiba receiver that had sliding controls and it sounded terrible.) Thats why i liked the digital controls of the Technics.I'm just yankin' your chain Drenis. Though equalizers and me don't gel well together, If that floats your boat,rock out to it by all means.
If you don't like the equalizer in your receiver, why not just not use it ? If you have a direct mode,or pure audio mode, that will bypass the equalization you dislike.
I've played around with my Pure Direct mode on my Elite but I find that it doesn't sound as good as Stereo or Direct with Sound Retrieval enabled. Hell, maybe I am doing something wrong.
I'm very familiar with most people disliking the EQ. I certainly needed one when I had the Bose -
I always understood that slider style controls are more susceptible to noise in the stream as they get dirty. (Had an Old Toshiba receiver that had sliding controls and it sounded terrible.) Thats why i liked the digital controls of the Technics.
They all add noise no matter what type of controls you use, they are a bandaid for sure in most cases, unless you have serious room issues. If room issues are the case then a standard EQ won't help at all.
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
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Living Room: Adcom GFP-750 (Upgraded), Squeezebox Touch, Oppo BDP-83, Pioneer DV-79AVi, Parasound HCA-3500 (Upgraded), SDA SRS 2 P/B (Gimpod, Sonicaps, & Mills)
Theater: Denon 4311ci, Oppo BDP-93, Parasound HCA-2205+HCA-2200II, Polk LSi9, LSiC, LSiFX, LSi7, Custom 18" TC Sounds sub with 2 18" PR, Sharp XV-Z12000, Pioneer Kuro KRP-500M (isf Enabled)
Bedroom: HK AVR354, Pioneer DV-47a, Parasound HCA-1500a, Polk LSi9 -
I've played around with my Pure Direct mode on my Elite but I find that it doesn't sound as good as Stereo or Direct with Sound Retrieval enabled. Hell, maybe I am doing something wrong.
If it sounds bad in direct mode, then your source isn't up to snuff. What are you using as a source, and what kind of cable is connecting the two?HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
audiocr381ve wrote: »:rolleyes: Not buyin it!dcmartinpc wrote: »That was quick :frown:
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i will regrt it. i know it.
i should have just put them in a climate controlled storage unit.
but they are going to a good home.mole' -
i will regrt it. i know it.
i should have just put them in a climate controlled storage unit.
but they are going to a good home.
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Anthem AVM30. Should of just moved it to the bedroom instead of using an old receiver in there.
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KLH 9, sniff sniff...
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I had a pair of Legacy Whisper speakers years ago. Picked them up from a friends father for $1200.00 back in the day. I had no idea what they were other than that they played loud as all get out. Would really like to see how they sound since my ears are tuned better now. Back then they were nothing more than a party speaker to me.....who knows they could still be just a party speaker for all I know since my listening skillz have improved.Everything matters. That is all.
Money cannot buy happiness, but it sure can buy a bad **** boat to pull up along side it though. -
$1200? I don't mean to rub it in, but hell yeah you should have kept those Whispers!2.1: PC>Schiit Gungnir MB>Schiit Freya Noval>NAD C-270>Ascend Acoustics Sierra-1, HSU STF-2 5.1: HDMI Bitstream>Denon AVR-1910>polkaudio RTE55, CS350-LS, RT3, HSU STF-2, Visio M55-F0
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Whispers for 1200.....man, you do know what retail is on those bad boys ? Sure wouldn't put them in the class of party speaker though. Cerwin Vega...yea, Whispers, uh...no.
Unless they were beat to all hell, but even the cabinets and parts are worth that.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Regret selling my Infinty RSII's. Loved how they looked and sounded. Should have just kept them but the wife......:frown:HT System
Parasound Halo A51 Amp, Marantz AV 8003 Pre, Arcam FMJ CD36 cd player, Marantz 7007 BD/SACD player,Acoustic Zen Matrix IC's, Analysis Plus Crystal Copper Oval IC's, Acoustic Zen Satori speaker cables, B&W 703's Fronts, Center Martin Logan Motif hybrid, Surrounds DefTech BPX, 2 X DefTech Supercube Reference Subs, DSpeaker Antimode 8033 EQ. -
Whispers for 1200.....man, you do know what retail is on those bad boys ? Sure wouldn't put them in the class of party speaker though. Cerwin Vega...yea, Whispers, uh...no.
Unless they were beat to all hell, but even the cabinets and parts are worth that.
The speakers were in awesome shape. Nothing wrong with them at all. I liked them cause they were big and loud. I never listened to them how I listen to music now. Hell, Bose probably would have sounded awesome. I did not know any different. Back then I listened to pretty much anything but I was in my Metallica,Slayer,Pantera days then so that's what was pretty much played on them. I still remember listening to Seasons in the Abyss by Slayer so loud that my neighbors wanted to tell me to turn it down but they were scared (the father told me later that his wife would not let him come over). They probably thought I was a Satan worshiper or something,lol. Right before I went into the military I sold them to my buddy.Everything matters. That is all.
Money cannot buy happiness, but it sure can buy a bad **** boat to pull up along side it though. -
Complete set of McIntosh separates (Pre, 2 Power amps, tuner, environmental equalizer) with speakers (ML-2C) and cabinet.Home:
Onkyo TX-6500MKII/Polk LSI 9's (A)Polk TSi 100(B)/Polk PSW 10/Onkyo C-S5VL/Technics SL-QD33
Home 2 (Playback):
Dynaudio BM5A MKII/Dynaudio SUB 250MC/Audigy 2 ZS
College:
JBL LSR 2325P/JBL 2310SP/MOTU UltraLite MKIII -
This is a little bit of a reach for "audio" equipment here, but...
A Paul Reed Smith McCarty.
I miss her now more than ever. :frown:2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's
Living Room: PC > Marantz AV-7703 > Emotiva XPA-5 > Sonus Faber Liuto Towers, Sonus Faber Liuto Center, Sonus Faber Liuto Bookshelves > Dual SVS PC12-Pluses
Office: Phone/Tablet > AudioEngine B1 > McIntosh D100 > Bryston 4B-ST > Polk Audio LSiM-703's -
falconcry72 wrote: »This is a little bit of a reach for "audio" equipment here, but...
A Paul Reed Smith McCarty.
I miss her now more than ever. :frown:
What curves she had....The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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