Unbelievable!!!

bigsexy1

Faster, you cheap ****, instead of burning up the phone lines calling all over the whole country just to try to save a dollar, why don't you just get them already! Damned, what do you want, for one of them to GIVE you a pair?


Just kidding man, but at the price you found, just get them before it's too late and they are gone. You always have 30 days to return them if you don't want to keep them for a full refund.

faster100

I do the leg work to get the cheap cheap prices, LOL
I'm broke so i have to think this out.. I want to just throw them on layaway so i have time to think about it, most likely head up there shortly..

danger boy

I wonder if it's up to each individual CC to price discount speakers like the Polks right now. neither of the two CC's in my city are running these deals. they have sale prices. which are only $20 off each speaker. that's all. you all are so lucky to be getting such fantastic deals on speakers;)

faster100

well i threw the rti150's on CC layaway so i have time to think about it, because i will have to sell my rti70's in order to buy them.. i have maxed out my HT spending funds.. so i have to sell to buy.. any thoughts on the 150's other than what we all have hashed out in the last few weeks???

Terrax

I haven't heard the 70's other than in CC, but as for my 150's, I would not even consider the 70's over them, no matter what the 70's sound like. Course, thats just me, Heck, I just like seeing the brutes just sitting there in my living room. I think there are awesome, considering the price I gave for them.

bigsexy1

Faster, I see you have an SVS, and an Integra receiver. What is the wattage rating on the receiver? Is it really strong enough to drive the 150s appropriately? I can't stress enough how key that is. You need a lot of power for the 150s for them to truly show what they are capable of doing. Regardless, you already have bass amply covered with the SVS, although, I'd dare say that on 2 channel music with enough power driving them, the 150s will top your SVS on quick, clean, tight, dynamic, fast, accurate bass that just blends seamlessly with the music.
I know how some will go on about the 70's extra passive midrange driver just being the greatest thing ever, but when they are all set to FULL RANGE (large), I don't like them as much. I mean, after all, it's covering the same frequencies as the other two (150s and 100/1000s) do with whatever driver configuration they each respectively have, is it not (except for the fact that the other 2 will go lower)? Although that I will concede that if you are running your set up high passed, then what's the point of even having the 150 (or even the 1000/100 for that matter)? In that case, you will probably be better off with the 70s.
All I can tell you is this, after extensive auditions with both, I personally liked the 1000s better than the 800s (and that was one on one, speaker to speaker and not with the 800s PLUS an SVS vs the 1000s all on their own), and I definitely like the 150s better than the 1000s. So to me, it's simply the commutative property of transition, ie. if the 1000 is greater than the 800 (70), and the 150 is greater than the 1000, therefore the 150 is greater than the 800 (70).
However, in your particular case, I honestly think you may actually be better off with the 70s. I'm not trying to talk you out of getting the 150s, but I wouldn't just sell the 70s first. If you can, somehow get the 150s in your home and compare them, both with and without the SVS blended (regardless though, if you have enough power, always leave the 150s set to large) and see which YOU like better. I'll bet that on 2 channel stereo music listening, you will start to just leave the SVS off entirely and just use it on movies while letting the 150s handle all the bass on music listening (again, that is if you have enough power for the 150s, as I can't stress that enough). If you don't like the 150s, simply return them within 30 days. If you do like them better than the 70s, then (and only then) sell the 70s. If you have a CC credit card, you can charge them interest free for 12 months. That would be what, about $40 a month for a year? Even if you don't have a CC card, put them on another card, and you would still have 30 days to either return them and owe nothing, or to sell the 70s if you want to keep the 150s.

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One more thing I forgot to point out, even if the Integra really isn't strong enough to drive the 150s like they should be, you could always later on down the road pick up a descent amp for them. In the meantime, they are efficient enough for the Integra to probably drive them OK. They actually sounded great on my 3802, but as soon as I hooked up those adcom monsters in a bi-amp configuration, it was a whole different world entirely!

VR3

BS,
Have you tried the RTi150 without biamping? Did you hear a difference when biamping? What Adcoms are you running? Have you tried any other amps? If so...which brands?

I run my RTi70 on large, but with this new stacked configuration....that dosn't bother them. Well, the right main anyways...never have heard the RTi70 on small....lol

faster100

The Integra is 100 watts a channel for all channels.. I have pre outs and would consider an amp later for sure.. i actually want a 5 or 7 channel amp for my setup anyways.. I listened to them side by side at the store today and as much as i love the 70's they sounded hollow when switched to after having the 150's on, me and my wife noticed this when we demo'ed them months ago.. my wife said she liked the 150's sound better.. go figure.. if she's right she's right!! LOL

I myself am getting towed in by the massize looks and the driver array and sound as well.. so many people proclaim the 70's me included that i am at a wall here.. what to do?? what to do?? I have them layed away at CC for now. I like the idea of useing just the 150's sometimes for 2 channel.. and adding them with the SVS for movies or more demanding material...

i'm thinking

VR3

Anything compared to something with 6 sub (woofers) will sound hollow....thats like comparing an Infinity Tower to the RTi38....*sorry, just had to say that....no hard feelings to any Infinity owners...*

faster100

what do you mean? help me out

VR3

I was kidding

bigsexy1

Vr3MxStyler2k3'

"BS,
Have you tried the RTi150 without biamping? Did you hear a difference when biamping? What Adcoms are you running? Have you tried any other amps? If so...which brands?"

Sid, you know, I just realized that 2 of our birds, a Senegal Parrot is named Sidney, and a White Bellied Caique is named Fester (which is close to Faster)! LOL! That's just too funny! Anyways, I initially ran the 150s biwired (not biamped) with a Denon 3802. The Adcoms are a GFA 5500, 200 watts per channel driving the woofers, and a GFA 5400, 125 watts per channel driving the tweeters/midranges. Plus, keep in mind that those wattage ratings are for full frquency range bandwitdth. I'm sure that the actual power that they are each putting out right now exceeds those ratings for their respective corresponding limited frequency range which they are required to reproduce in the bi-amp configuration. Plus the gain on these two amps is the exact same, so it's no problem to bi-amp them together. And yes, as I'm sure you can imagine, there was a very big dramatic difference with the Adcoms bi-amped over the 3802.
Have not tried any other amps with them yet, although just tonight, I traded the 3802 for a B&K receiver, and I also have some Harman Kardon amps I could hit them with that I may just try one day out of curiousity. However, I have nothing else that would even come close to topping that Adcom combo bi-amped together.

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"....thats like comparing an Infinity Tower to the RTi38....*sorry, just had to say that....no hard feelings to any Infinity owners...*"

Hey! Watch it! I also happen to own some Infinitys!


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Faster, I don't know what else to say, except that it sounds to me like you will soon be joining the ranks of the 150 owners. It's just a matter of time now.
Let me ask you this, what kind of music do you mostly listen to? If it is rock, then go ahead and get the 150s, and you will never look back.

aubyn97

bigsexy1 when you biamp your rti 150 how do you have it wired coming from your reciver,how are you feeding the adcom amps are you using the front L and R pre outs to power the amps,how do you have the subs powered

thanks

VR3

Big,
I own the GFA 545 II anf 535 II and 535, no explanation needed.. i am running the 35i off of the 535. the 70 off of the 545, ran together with a y splitter

faster100

I'm kinda eclectic(sp) i think is the word. I like rock, I like R&B and rap... have been getting into big band & swing.. I also on occasion listen to country,,(not much lately) however i have about 50 cd's of it, I also like 70's rock, 80's hair band music,LOL
classical however i don't know any names so i don't have any cd's yet.. I like it loud but clear also.. no distortion hard rock.. unless im drunk.. lol which is not often anymore

so that sums it up!!!

bigsexy1

aubyn97'

"bigsexy1 when you biamp your rti 150 how do you have it wired coming from your reciver,how are you feeding the adcom amps are you using the front L and R pre outs to power the amps,how do you have the subs powered

thanks"


The preamp is an Adcom GFP 565. It has not 1, not just two, but 3 sets of main pre-out connections. I send one set to the 5400 amp, and another to the 5500 amp. Then, the 5400 is hooked up by speaker wire to the top 5 way speaker wire binding post set on the 150s (which is for the tweets/mids), and the 5500 is hooked up by speaker wire to the bottom set of 5 way posts on the 150s, which is for the woofers. If you do this, DO NOT forget to remove the little gold plated jumpers which connect the 2 sets of 5 way posts for when you are not bi-wire/bi-amping the speakers.
The 565 preamp also has a processor switch that I engage for movies. Then, I set the volume at the 12:00 position (which is unity gain), and then use the volume control on the receiver (HK 8000), which is hooked up to the 565 preamp by the processor input/output (sort of like a tape monitor loop I guess) to control everything, including the main left/right volume that is actually hooked up through the Adcoms. The seperate, dedicated, self powered subs (which, BTW are 2 Infinity Interlude S120s set up with Infinity's RABOS system, which really works as advertised, because it definitely tightens the subs up considerably from not having it engaged) are hooked up to the receiver, so they only are in use during movies, and not on 2 channel stereo music.

VR3

I have mine wired with cables...

This big black shiney box...

then 3 other dull black boxes....

then this black box with a open box things plays these round objects that are weally shiney....

then these gigantic black boxes in the front make this cool noise...

Man that sounds like a complicated setup, probally not as complicated as it sounds...lol

bigsexy1

Sid, you could bi-amp your 70s with the 535 and 545. Have you ever tried it?

Faster, it's funny you say that about your music tastes. We're going to see KISS and Aerosmith tomorrow night!

VR3

BS,
I did try biamping. That is why I asked. I found no results...

I did it the way I am now, and found they sounded exactly the same. The right main had louder bass, a tad more punch. But not enough to justify using a 200 dollar amp on it...

Terrax

One more thing to think about, Faster, is furture desire fullfillment, the 150's will give you so much more in the long run by adding more ampage, as Big said, the sound will improve at a dramatic rate with increase's in juice. You will be in essence furture proofing you sound needs with the 150's, where as I would think the 70's would atleast be somewhat limited in this regard. That is exactly one reason I wanted the 150's so bad myself, looking ahead. Just a thought.;) Beside that monsterous beefy OMG look they have, hehe

bigsexy1

Sid, it sounds to me like you probably didn't have something hooked up right.

VR3

I removed the jumpers, two 2 runs of speaker wire....

The top post was to the 535, the bottum post was to the 545. The amps were connected together with a y splitter at the input section. Then a cable from the y splitter to the receiver pre outs...sound right?

bigsexy1

Yep, but I don't understand why one side was playing louder than the other speaker was. Did you have the balance and tone controls all set to flat?

VR3

No, it wasn't playing louder. It was like the bass was more punchier, accurate, a more 'fuller' sound. Where as the left was kinda, just there. It had no db increase in th sound, just a tighter bottum end, which wouldn't matter with a subwoofer on. So I thought nothing of it..

I run my entire setup 0db, i had one biamped. not 2. I don't have enough of the same wire to do both, I will do it again when I get another 20 foot run of IXOS

bigsexy1

Wait a minute, you said the amps were connected together. You mean the preamp was connected to the 2 power amps with the y splitter? Not the 2 power amps actually connected to each other in any way?

VR3

here ya go..

VR3

The reason I run it like that...

A Y splitter costs 4 bucks, a run of cables cost 14...

thehalo8

My store in Fort Lauderdale is having a big sale too. RTi150's are $285 each, FXi30's are $68 each, CSi40 are $299.....I asked if they price match for out of state CC's. They said yes, and called up the Durham CC. However he said that Durham CC is offering the buy one and get 50% of the second pair, but that the prices of their speakers were not reduced. That basically if I bought 2 pair at my store's price that it would come out to the same as the store in Durham with the 50% off.

After seeing Big's posts about the prices, I think my CC salesman was feeding me a bunch of crap. Anyway, if some of you are in the south Florida area the Fort Lauderdale CC is having some good sales on their Polk stuff and there is not much left!!!!!! And the salesman also told me the new line will be in the store in about 3 weeks, let us just wait and see......

bigsexy1

Sid, I think I understand now what you were doing. You mean to tell me that you tried to compare bi-amping vs. single amp with one speaker bi-amped, and the other speaker single amped both AT THE SAME TIME?
Well if that's the case, no damned wonder one of the channels sounded fuller, punchier, and more accurate than the other.
Sid, no offense, but it's stuff like this that just makes me (and others) on here get so frustrated with you sometimes. Man, will you just stop and listen to what you are actually saying sometimes. This is even better than trying to compare "stacked" speaker combos to unstacked at the same time with one speaker stacked and the other not. I realize that on the stacked comparision that you really had no choice right now because one of the 35's tweeters is messed up, but this bi-amping experiment is inexcusable. How much harder would it have been just to hook up the other speaker correctly instead of half assed?
I give up!

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Halo, that is true to a certian extent, as the FX 30's here were like $91, so even w/ the B1PG1PA50%O deal, that came out to like $70 each, which is actually a little more than what your CC is selling them for outright. However, the 150s were most definitely $248.88 each BEFORE the B1PG1PA50%O deal. They even had an open box pair of 150s for $200 each.

VR3

BS,

It is excuseable...

Why?

Because I need 20 more feet of IXOS. Can you justify HD wire on the top post of the left speaker, IXOS on the bottum, and IXOS full on the right? How do you think that would effect the sound?

You just don't understand just how and why I can't do that. I also don't have another y-splitter..

Now if you would just stop and listen to what I said, and understand that I have a limited amount of cash flow/wire/assesories, etc -- then you would understand my problems. Instead of making a fit about what I did and did not do...

I am going to try to get more wire soon, repairing my rt35i, etc, give it time and I will report back...just...*calm yourself*