best way to repair surround?
soundfreak1
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Have a driver with a small tear in the surround. Tape, glue, if glue, what kind. Just a quick fix till replaced. Thanks
Main Rig:
Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
MIT exp 1 ic's
Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
AQ kingcobra ic's
OPPO 83 CDP
Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
ADS L1590/2 Biamped
MIT exps2 speaker cable
Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
MIT exp 1 ic's
Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
AQ kingcobra ic's
OPPO 83 CDP
Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
ADS L1590/2 Biamped
MIT exps2 speaker cable
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I am in the same boat with a center channel that I moved to the rear . The hole in my cone is right next to the rubber
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Rubber cement, Gasket sealant, I have used both.
Rubber cement worked quite well and almost disappeared.
Gasket Sealant was same color and blended right in.
Use either from the back of the cone not the front for better appearance. -
Tub caulk.Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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Clear silicone; applied a very thin layer to the area. It works great for a temp fix when foam surrounds begin to disintegrate~TNRabbit
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Macaroni.Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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and cheese.“The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why.” ~ Mark Twain
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If the surround is foam, it is best to replace it. Replacement foam surrounds are available from numerous vendors, both generic and driver-specific. A popular one, for example, is www.partsexpress.com
Rubber surrounds are probably best repaired with a combination of a single-ply of toilet paper (or artists'/modelers' tissue paper) behind the tear and rubber cement or a flexible cement such as "GC Service Cement" (available from local or on-line electronics parts/supply houses). It won't hurt to saturate the TP with the cement, too. You want the repair to be strong, flexible, but light in weight -- not to mention, ideally, airtight.
BEFORE: Rotted Pioneer HPM-1100 (JBL-esque) foam woofer surround, undergoing a CAT scan.
Results of CAT scan:
AFTER: Repaired woofer - this somewhat specialized woofer deserved, and got, a non-generic surround.
Cheese is good in a pinch. -
Great 5-star surround replacement job!
I've yet to do one but I need to get to it since I have many advent,JBL and one set of Cerwin Vegas woofers waiting and I now have a little spending cash. I start with the Cewin Vega of course..Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them. -
heh. my first surround replacements were a pair of C-Vs. Perfect fodder for practice :-) Bought the PE kit with the charming and appropriate red foam.
They served my son well for years. -
Thanks for the good responce and detail info mhardy also nice looking job on the repair. Thanks again.Main Rig:
Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
MIT exp 1 ic's
Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
AQ kingcobra ic's
OPPO 83 CDP
Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
ADS L1590/2 Biamped
MIT exps2 speaker cable -
Btw great cat scaner! Got one almost identicle to it.Main Rig:
Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
MIT exp 1 ic's
Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
AQ kingcobra ic's
OPPO 83 CDP
Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
ADS L1590/2 Biamped
MIT exps2 speaker cable -
soundfreak1 wrote: »Have a driver with a small tear in the surround. Tape, glue, if glue, what kind. Just a quick fix till replaced. Thanks
Got it at Lowe's. The package says it's their most durable, and stays flexible. Especially good for rubber.
I used it to seal a small hole in the surround on one of my MW's that now serves as a back up."Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer -
soundfreak1 wrote: »Thanks for the good responce and detail info mhardy also nice looking job on the repair. Thanks again.
De nada; just showin' off :-p -
mhardy6647 wrote: »If the surround is foam, it is best to replace it. Replacement foam surrounds are available from numerous vendors, both generic and driver-specific. A popular one, for example, is www.partsexpress.com
BEFORE: Rotted Pioneer HPM-1100 (JBL-esque) foam woofer surround, undergoing a CAT scan.
AFTER: Repaired woofer - this somewhat specialized woofer deserved, and got, a non-generic surround.
Cheese is good in a pinch.
Looks better than some so called professional repairs!TO ERR IS HUMAN. TO FORGIVE IS CANINE. -
mhardy6647 wrote: »heh. my first surround replacements were a pair of C-Vs. Perfect fodder for practice :-) Bought the PE kit with the charming and appropriate red foam.
They served my son well for years.
Those reds on one of my Advents would make the others laugh (to hide their envy)TO ERR IS HUMAN. TO FORGIVE IS CANINE. -
You can always use the Handy Mans secret weapon, Duct Tape.
Those silver surrounds and cones will be nice. -
Boogers.Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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OK, rubber cement and toilet paper or the equivalent on the back of the rubber surround?
Trying to repair a couple of tears in Monitor 5 mids and also 'reattach' the surrounds? What substance would you use to secure the rubber surround to the assembly itself?
I have a tear in one mid and some leaks in the other because some 'genius' tried to install the mid screws without first cutting out some of the rubber surround so that the screws would NOT tear them to pieces as they were being turned! And I'm supposed to be technically incompetent. At least I know not to do something this stupid.
Almost ruined the Monitors, but I think we can save them. They play, they're fine--but leaking air through less than perfect surround seals and surround tears doesn't cut it.
Many thanks!
cnhCurrently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!
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I use Epoxy to secure the surround to the Frame and Rubber Cement to fix tears in the surround itself.
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Thanks Joe. Where can I pick that up? Hardware store, Auto store?
cnhCurrently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!
Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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Hardware store. I usually get the kind in a split tube you mix. You don't need much and I try to make it as thin as I can or you can see a bump. Not pretty that way.
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Sounds good. Have an Ace Hardware about two blocks away!
Thanks!
cnhCurrently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!
Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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polkfarmboy wrote: »I am in the same boat with a center channel that I moved to the rear . The hole in my cone is right next to the rubber
You didn't try to stick a banana plug in it did you?--Gary--
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mhardy6647 wrote: »heh. my first surround replacements were a pair of C-Vs. Perfect fodder for practice :-) Bought the PE kit with the charming and appropriate red foam.
They served my son well for years.
Looks good there. I still haven't gotten around to it. I put two big amps in for fixing. The bill comes next week. Then I might order my practice surrounds.Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them. -
Used the silicon method , worked fine just a little ugly but works perfect. Will replace speaker when can but it works. Thanks all for thw ideas.Main Rig:
Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
MIT exp 1 ic's
Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
AQ kingcobra ic's
OPPO 83 CDP
Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
ADS L1590/2 Biamped
MIT exps2 speaker cable