Netflix raising rates on the sly.

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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,192
    edited July 2011
    it's not that bad. The service is excellent. I get my disc's on time all the time. I have only had maybe 2 disc's that where scratched or unplayable. Netflix got me a replacement disc in days.
    Streaming is excellent and the picture quality is improved. For what you get it's a very fair price.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2011
    RuSsMaN wrote: »
    Tequila. Oh and hey pick up agave nectar in the syrup isle at the local megamart. Use it on your hand instead of salt. Tasty treat Mark turned me on to.

    Burning over NF? C'mon man. A little perturbed, ok. Burning?

    Yeah, Tequila!

    Yes burning........I just feel like they are raising rates because they can, that never sits well with me. I'll be over it shortly.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,726
    edited July 2011
    You keep saying 'raising rates because they can', completely ignoring the fact that the studios are really the ones forcing the issue here, they're the ones raising the streaming rates. Anyone thinking that Netflix is going to be the only one raising rates is fooling themselves, they're just the first because with the most viewers they're the most affected.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited July 2011
    greyford1979 wrote: »
    My biggest problem with them isn't even the price increase. Netflix is starting to really piss me off because I never get the new releases at the top of my list in my queue. They always send me the ones at the bottom and I end up waiting for over a month to finally get the new releases:mad:

    Just add the new releases into the queue and they will eventually show up. That is what I do. If I add a movie today I should see it in a year or two. If I have to see it right away I buy the Bluray.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,726
    edited July 2011
    greyford1979 wrote: »
    My biggest problem with them isn't even the price increase. Netflix is starting to really piss me off because I never get the new releases at the top of my list in my queue. They always send me the ones at the bottom and I end up waiting for over a month to finally get the new releases:mad:
    See, THATs a good reason to be pissed at netflix, not the price increase.

    The way i see it, with the increase Netflix has just gone from 'an absurdly ridiculous low rate' to 'a good deal'
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,726
    edited July 2011
    By the way, I'd hardly call the price hikes 'on the sly'. They've got them listed on their website, on their blog and have already sent me an email almost 2 months in advance of the new increase, so it's not like they're trying to sneak one in on us
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,501
    edited July 2011
    AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »
    Take a breath and think about it for a second, really. For $16 a month you can get roughly 8 movies delivered TO YOUR DOOR.

    Ok, I took a breath and thought about it. I'm amazed that you can find 8 movies a month worth watching because I have a hard time finding 1.
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited July 2011
    F1nut wrote: »
    Ok, I took a breath and thought about it. I'm amazed that you can find 8 movies a month worth watching because I have a hard time finding 1.

    I guess you don't need netflix then!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2011
    AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »
    You keep saying 'raising rates because they can', completely ignoring the fact that the studios are really the ones forcing the issue here, they're the ones raising the streaming rates. Anyone thinking that Netflix is going to be the only one raising rates is fooling themselves, they're just the first because with the most viewers they're the most affected.

    Netflix hasn't mentioned one thing about having to pass on absurdly higher rates because of the Studio's. If I was Netflix CEO, if that was the case I'd make damn sure all my customers knew that's the reason for the increase.

    H9
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited July 2011
    I just re signed up couple months ago, Do streaming on the wii game consoles, paid for the dvd rental extra 2 bucks. still havent ordered the first dvd. never have time and agree with jesse, id be lucky to find one or 2 good movies a month. prob just cancel the dvd and keep our streaming. bought a second Wii for the living room for this feature.

    I agree though, Just because its " still a good deal" and it's not killing most of us the $6 bucks a month extra. It's like, they should raise the price of your all time favorite vehicle. Because after all its still a good deal. and whats another couple thousand for such a great truck, car or what ever consumer goods. i wont cancel totally. it's a decent convience for the kids on weekends AND us for streaming anyways
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  • intangible
    intangible Posts: 262
    edited July 2011
    Well, I was considering cutting the DVD portion of my subscription, so this makes that decision easier. Has anyone tried the Amazon Prime streaming, particularly for TV shows? It is substantially cheaper.

    I believe the incoming rate hikes from the MAFIAA are the cause of this price increase (which is substantial, despite what you want to pretend, and undoubtedly not the last we will see), and I think they are fast approaching the tipping point. Netflix competes first and foremost with the variety of ways to watch movies for free by making access much more convenient. Push the price high enough, and the individuals you have managed to convert to your paid service will return to getting it for free, and you will have to rebuild everything from the bottom.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2011
    intangible wrote: »
    Push the price high enough, and the individuals you have managed to convert to your paid service will return to getting it for free, and you will have to rebuild everything from the bottom.

    I'm at that point or very close.

    H9
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,516
    edited July 2011
    I don't stream because the quality is too crappy, I just rent one at a time so it's no big deal to me.
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  • maximillian
    maximillian Posts: 2,144
    edited July 2011
    I use streaming from time to time. But since the quality isn't great and the selection is limited a $6 increase is a little much for me. If they had a larger selection then it wouldn't be a big deal. I may just go to the 2 disc plan at $12/mo.

    Overall I think Netflix is a better deal than the alternatives out there. So I won't be leaving them as a customer, just re-evaluating which plan to use.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2011
    I don't understand all the "crappy quality" streaming comments? What's wrong with 720P HD?

    It's not Bluray, I understand that, but it's so far from crappy I don't understand the comments. Unless your method and hardware for streaming is the issue.

    H9
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited July 2011
    You can bet your butt that Netflix has analyzed the potential loss of customers vs. gains in the higher price--or they are monumentally stupid.
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,516
    edited July 2011
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I don't understand all the "crappy quality" streaming comments? What's wrong with 720P HD?

    It's not Bluray, I understand that, but it's so far from crappy I don't understand the comments. Unless your method and hardware for streaming is the issue.

    H9

    720p is not HD, and compared to 1080p, it is crappy. I can stream to my PS3 and through my 1080p FP and it looks crappy compared to 1080p so I won't watch it. I sold off every DVD I owned as the quality just isn't there. Yes, I'm seriously spoiled thanks to 1080p media and I cannot go back.

    Now, once Netflix streams 1080p and lossless I may become a paying customer.
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited July 2011
    Ron-P wrote: »
    720p is not HD, and compared to 1080p, it is crappy. I can stream to my PS3 and through my 1080p FP and it looks crappy compared to 1080p so I won't watch it. I sold off every DVD I owned as the quality just isn't there. Yes, I'm seriously spoiled thanks to 1080p media and I cannot go back.

    Now, once Netflix streams 1080p and lossless I may become a paying customer.

    720p is not crappy at all, and it's definitely HD. You might have mistaken it for 480p.
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,516
    edited July 2011
    Yep, your right, I was thinking 480p...my blunder.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2011
    720p is HD, but if you like 1080p then I think it would be better to say Netflix doesn't stream in 1080p so I prefer to watch Blu-ray. Seriously 720p sucks? gimme a break. Nothing wrong with 720p it's not like it's a low quality mp3 (as if there are any HQ mp3's) it's Redbook vs. SACD and SACD is proclaimed to be better but I've never heard anyone say Redbook cd's suck.

    H9
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2011
    Ron, not trying to start a fight at all, I'm just so surprised at all the negative comments about streaming quality. I bet almost all my streaming is done in 720p HD and it really looks great for what it is. Far, far, far from crappy as so many people seem to think.

    I was just curious to see if there was a pattern of hardware or settings or delivery that makes it so crappy for many. I use a Roku XD player and it works flawlessly and the picture is excellent.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • codyc1ark
    codyc1ark Posts: 2,532
    edited July 2011
    Meh, my netflix went from $12.00 to $13.00, I get streaming and one blu-ray at a time. Yeah, the price raise stinks, but it happens. The ol' lady was just watching Greys whatever streaming over the PS3, and it looks as good as anything we get through Dish HD really, so, I can't complain.
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  • maximillian
    maximillian Posts: 2,144
    edited July 2011
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I don't understand all the "crappy quality" streaming comments? What's wrong with 720P HD?
    H9

    I'm on Charter cable. No other good choice. Not Netflix's fault, but streaming in HD is not an viable option. SD is only OK. Then on my 2-year old laptop SD video sometimes suffers from audio sync issues. Probably my hardware but haven't figured it out yet. Streaming for me is not hassle free with these issues.

    But this isn't the biggest issue with me. Far from it. The bigger issue is the lack of streaming selection.
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  • Rivrrat
    Rivrrat Posts: 2,101
    edited July 2011
    I'm going to have to think about this. I already have pretty much the full meal deal with Directv, so whatever movie comes out, I just have to wait and I'll get to see it eventually. If I can't wait, or I absolutely have to watch it on BD, there's aways Redbox.

    I was already thinking about canceling, this might just put me over the edge.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2011
    Streaming on a computer will not give you the best quality, not Netflix's fault because the quality is available if you use the proper hardware. I'm beginning to understand that most of you aren't getting the full potential available from Netflix streaming.

    Streaming selection is a legitimate gripe, for me, I don't have an issue with the selection. I can find 100's of things to watch. It COULD become an issue if they raise their prices however. If they are going to start charging a premium price then I will have issues with streaming content. For now I'm content and my streaming queue has 147 items in it and atleast 40% are TV shows. I probably have enough streaming material for well over a year if I never added another thing.

    H9
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  • LessisNevermore
    LessisNevermore Posts: 1,519
    edited July 2011
    maximillian wrote: »
    The bigger issue is the lack of streaming selection.

    Ding, ding, ding! Winner.

    It takes balls to basically double your rates, when your streaming selection is so limited. I love it when you are halfway through a series, and the remove it from the streaming service. :mad:

    I'll give them two months, if they haven't significantly upgraded their streaming offerings, they're getting the boot.
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,516
    edited July 2011
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Ron, not trying to start a fight at all, I'm just so surprised at all the negative comments about streaming quality. I bet almost all my streaming is done in 720p HD and it really looks great for what it is. Far, far, far from crappy as so many people seem to think.

    I was just curious to see if there was a pattern of hardware or settings or delivery that makes it so crappy for many. I use a Roku XD player and it works flawlessly and the picture is excellent.

    H9

    I streamed several films and have been unimpressed with the quality. It looks like 480 not 720p, at all. Maybe it's the Netflix in my area, I really have no idea. But it's not worth paying for. It's going right to my PS3 and then into my 1080p Epson FP in my HT room.
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  • obieone
    obieone Posts: 5,077
    edited July 2011
    I just discovered Amazon video this week. Watched the Galant Hours with James Cagney.
    They have a great selection of old movies, which is great, because Holyweird has been sucking fat ones, the past 5-6 years.
    Just a suggestion.
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  • TouchOfEvil
    TouchOfEvil Posts: 967
    edited July 2011
    I do not have netflix nor plan to get it. Mainly because it's just another expense i don't need and honestly i would never use it to it's limit. I feel like if i can't get max use out of a service i most likely do not need it.
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited July 2011
    I just saw this on B'Buster's site. Seems like they're getting right in Netflix's grille!

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