RDO 198 and Monitor 10's

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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited May 2011
    jcandy wrote: »
    That's correct AFAIK. I leave it up to you to say if that's a good or a bad thing.


    Agreed. I also doubt there is such a thing as a (good) solid ebony violin, but the point is that we're not talking about pure hardwood/softwood cabinet construction. The original point was that difficulties of solid wood are removed when laminating onto plywood. This also gives the required thickness for a roundover while still hiding the plywood endgrain. The roundover is standard these days to reduce cabinet diffraction, and is a pain to veneer. Has anyone here ever tried to veneer over a short-radius roundover?

    I had an old Mercedes (1957 220S) that had a radio grille with some incredible compound curves that were veneered. I have applied solid mahogany edges to veneered panels and then made 1.5" radius roundovers or full bullnoses on, it was for Heckler & Koch's corp. offices in N. Va. In answer to your question about sm. radius veneering.....some folks veneer the barrels of pen/pencil sets.:eek: Heat, glue pot filled with rabbit flakes and a hammer, you can veneer most anything.:smile:
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited May 2011
    jcandy wrote: »
    I've never used this. Can you remove the screw after its fastened with Mr. Grip?

    Yes,yes you can!:biggrin:
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  • jcandy
    jcandy Posts: 501
    edited May 2011
    gdb wrote: »
    I had an old Mercedes (1957 220S) that had a radio grille with some incredible compound curves that were veneered. I have applied solid mahogany edges to veneered panels and then made 1.5" radius roundovers or full bullnoses on, it was for Heckler & Koch's corp. offices in N. Va. In answer to your question about sm. radius veneering.....some folks veneer the barrels of pen/pencil sets.:eek: Heat, glue pot filled with rabbit flakes and a hammer, you can veneer most anything.:smile:
    That's impressive. These are things that require real skill. I tend to really just shy away from veneer on irregular surfaces.
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  • jcandy
    jcandy Posts: 501
    edited May 2011
    dorokusai wrote: »
    I'd stick with the SL2500.
    So, rromeo923, is it SL2500 or RDO-198? And have you re-secured the drivers?
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited May 2011
    gdb wrote: »
    I had an old Mercedes (1957 220S) that had a radio grille with some incredible compound curves that were veneered. I have applied solid mahogany edges to veneered panels and then made 1.5" radius roundovers or full bullnoses on, it was for Heckler & Koch's corp. offices in N. Va. In answer to your question about sm. radius veneering.....some folks veneer the barrels of pen/pencil sets.:eek: Heat, glue pot filled with rabbit flakes and a hammer, you can veneer most anything.:smile:

    Cool.Since we are already way OT I have a veneering?When veneering a flat panel with two separate pieces what is the best way to hide the seam?Overlap then sand excess flush or is there a better way?

    Thanks Skippy:biggrin:
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited May 2011
    FTGV wrote: »
    Cool.Since we are already way OT I have a veneering?When veneering a flat panel with two separate pieces what is the best way to hide the seam?Overlap then sand excess flush or is there a better way?

    Thanks Skippy:biggrin:

    I always used a "shooting board" set up with a low angle block plane. stack the pieces, true them up in the S'board and then butt them together, then.....if you can find some, stick the seam/joint together with paper tape with the "wet to stick" adhesive on it. (like an envelope has) This tape will sand off with out leaving any residue. Don't s'pose you've got a stroke sander laying around??:smile:

    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=using+a+shooting+board&aq=6m&oq=shooting+board

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP_x7MADN8c


    That's how it's done son/Skippy !!:biggrin:
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited May 2011
    I forgot to mention "bookmatching" do you do that? IMO it looks way better than "slipmatching" !:smile:
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  • jcandy
    jcandy Posts: 501
    edited May 2011
    gdb wrote: »
    That's how it's done son/Skippy !!:biggrin:
    In the first video (from the top of the search list) I didn't quite get the overall strategy (?!?) and I wondered "where's your masking tape, dude?". And in the second video there it was. Second video is simple and makes more sense to me.
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited May 2011
    It's fun stuff, I used to make up starburst clock faces or inlays for coffee table tops etc. etc. After all these years, I've still got all of my fingers too !:smile:
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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited May 2011
    jcandy wrote: »
    LOL. We've heard over and over that you're the troll. Have you looked at your post-count lately? Have you looked at your posts lately? You are the biggest troll/tool on this forum.

    Ha ha. Too funny.

    I wish I could hear all of these awesome designs. Jeff, if you never need help on a project let me know (by help I mean get in your way and watch, maybe touch the soldering gun once in awhile). I'd love to learn :biggrin:
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  • jcandy
    jcandy Posts: 501
    edited May 2011
    audiocr381ve wrote: »
    Ha ha. Too funny.

    I wish I could hear all of these awesome designs. Jeff, if you never need help on a project let me know (by help I mean get in your way and watch, maybe touch the soldering gun once in awhile). I'd love to learn :biggrin:
    Well, my plan for the next design is to do something a bit crazy, probably a large floorstanding WMTMW (woofer-mid-tweeter-mid-woofer). Something like this:

    http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/mpotoka/Classics/teaser.jpg

    I had my eye on some hand-made-old-school-high-Qts 8s (good for sealed enclosures) for the woofers, but am now rethinking that. Have to decide soon and get the ball rolling. I'll keep you posted. My wife and daughter will be in Europe until the end of June, so I'll have lots of free time.
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  • rromeo923
    rromeo923 Posts: 1,513
    edited May 2011
    jcandy wrote: »
    So, rromeo923, is it SL2500 or RDO-198? And have you re-secured the drivers?

    I am sticking with the SL2500 and have enjoyed this thread. You guys certainly know more about this stuff than I. I have not re-secured the drivers yet.

    I have however bought a turntable and have been listening to some vinyl (Awesome!)

    I have been listening to the vinyl with my SDA 1C's so I have not been concerned as much w/ the 10's lately.
    :tongue:
    I got static in my head
    The reflected sound of everything
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  • jcandy
    jcandy Posts: 501
    edited May 2011
    rromeo923 wrote: »
    I am sticking with the SL2500 and have enjoyed this thread. You guys certainly know more about this stuff than I. I have not re-secured the drivers yet.

    I have however bought a turntable and have been listening to some vinyl (Awesome!)

    I have been listening to the vinyl with my SDA 1C's so I have not been concerned as much w/ the 10's lately.
    :tongue:
    O.K. If I understand you, you are keeping the damaged SL2500, not replacing with an undamaged unit (is that correct). If so, be aware that dome perforations/tears have been shown to affect the low-frequecy tweeter response (2kHz-4kHz) by 4dB or more (Bolejko, AES, 2006).
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  • rromeo923
    rromeo923 Posts: 1,513
    edited May 2011
    It means that I will not be getting the RDO 198s. I may still replace the 2500

    If anyone has a spare let me know.

    TIA
    I got static in my head
    The reflected sound of everything
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  • jcandy
    jcandy Posts: 501
    edited May 2011
    rromeo923 wrote: »
    It means that I will not be getting the RDO 198s. I may still replace the 2500

    If anyone has a spare let me know.
    O.K., cool. With any luck a pair will show up if you ask around.
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  • TennMan
    TennMan Posts: 1,266
    edited May 2011
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,566
    edited May 2011
    jcandy wrote: »
    LOL. We've heard over and over that you're the troll. Have you looked at your post-count lately? Have you looked at your posts lately? You are the biggest troll/tool on this forum.

    1. Sorry sport, I've been called a lot of things, troll isn't one of them.
    2 & 3. Those are the two things a troll always brings up.
    4. Post a poll, I guarantee you'll win the troll award.

    Every time someone brings up a valid counterpoint to your gibberish, you either ignore it or do the side step. Therefore, any attempt at having a discussion with you on a given subject matter is an excerise in futility.

    Your behavior has not gone unnoticed by those that matter and the powers that be. With perhaps one exception (audiocr381ve), no one wants you here.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,566
    edited May 2011
    rromeo923 wrote: »
    It means that I will not be getting the RDO 198s.

    That's a mistake, IMO. The 198 is a better tweeter.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited May 2011
    F1nut wrote: »
    1. Sorry sport, I've been called a lot of things, troll isn't one of them.
    2 & 3. Those are the two things a troll always brings up.
    4. Post a poll, I guarantee you'll win the troll award.

    Every time someone brings up a valid counterpoint to your gibberish, you either ignore it or do the side step. Therefore, any attempt at having a discussion with you on a given subject matter is an excerise in futility.

    Your behavior has not gone unnoticed by those that matter and the powers that be. With perhaps one exception (audiocr381ve), no one wants you here.

    Dude, I respect your knowledge and allegiance to this forum, but just freakin' stop. You and the groupies that gang up on Jeff are honestly just silly. The back and forth between both parties is so ridiculous, but your party seems to be the ones constantly resorting to being cyber-instigators enforcing my belief that wisdom does not come with age.

    Like I'd tell my 11 month old, "Shhhhhh, inside voice."

    Both parties need to practice some humility. Until we get an octagon to figure out who is actually tougher, can we stop the trash talking?
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  • jcandy
    jcandy Posts: 501
    edited May 2011
    F1nut wrote: »
    Every time someone brings up a valid counterpoint to your gibberish, you either ignore it or do the side step.
    Oh really? Forgive me, but did I miss the post where you backed up the ridiculous claim that "plywood, laminated or whatever is an extremely poor choice of any part of a speaker cabinet"?
    F1nut wrote: »
    Therefore, any attempt at having a discussion with you on a given subject matter is an excerise in futility.
    You've never tried to have a discussion with me. Your no-insult limit is about two sentences.
    F1nut wrote: »
    Your behavior has not gone unnoticed by those that matter and the powers that be. With perhaps one exception (audiocr381ve), no one wants you here.
    Unless "Those that matter and the powers that be" can't read or are your cousins, I can't see how that's going to be a problem.
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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited May 2011
    BTW, Jeff, do you mind hopping over to my Budget Amp thread and giving some suggestions/thoughts?
    :biggrin:
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  • jcandy
    jcandy Posts: 501
    edited May 2011
    audiocr381ve wrote: »
    BTW, Jeff, do you mind hopping over to my Budget Amp thread and giving some suggestions/thoughts?
    :biggrin:
    Check your gmail.
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