Anyonw tried these wires?Golden Parallel Speaker Cables from Mapleshades
TouchOfEvil
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I'm going to need runs of roughly 30foot give or take a little for my surrounds. This wire will be running to my lsi7's.
Anyone tried this wire before and if so how did you like it? Would you recommend it or is there something else i should be looking at?
http://shop.mapleshadestore.com/Golden-Parallel-Speaker-Cables/productinfo/PARALLEL/
Anyone tried this wire before and if so how did you like it? Would you recommend it or is there something else i should be looking at?
http://shop.mapleshadestore.com/Golden-Parallel-Speaker-Cables/productinfo/PARALLEL/
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I have not used that specific wire, but do have the Clearview Double Helix Plus in my HT, and it definitely is an upgrade over hardware store stranded, twisted copper 12 gauge. At first I had this cable in my two channel, and it convinced me cables do make a difference. I was amazed at the detail that came out after installing it. Later, I upgraded the two-channel to their sister company, Omega-Mikro, Planar I, and then V cables.
After the two-channel upgrade, I ordered more Double Helix for the surround and center channel speakers in the HT. Good move.
http://shop.mapleshadestore.com/Double-Helix-Speaker-Cable-with-PLUS-Upgrade/productinfo/DHELIX-PL/
One other tweak on the HT was installing MIT CVT Terminator 1 between the pre[pro and the amp. Along with the Mapleshader speaker wire I love the detail in the sound for both HT, and multi-channel SACD.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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Three 20 amp circuits. -
Thanks for posting blue. I'm only looking for wire for my surrounds at the moment. I'm more than happy with the mains but on the surrounds i currently have like 14foot runs and will need around 30foot runs once i move in a month. Also looking to upgrade the wire as i'm currently using monoprice 12gauge for em.Living Room Rig:D
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nobody else has anything to add.:frown:Living Room Rig:D
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Xbox360/PS3/WII
M.Br. setup:)
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Computer Rig:
Rotel RB1050/Tannoy DC4's/Klipsch RW-10d/ImodIpod/HK AVR230 for now....
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TouchOfEvil wrote: »nobody else has anything to add.:frown:
Yes, I do. What a waste of hard-earned money.TV: 65" Samsung QLED 4K
Fronts: Energy RC70 --- Center: Energy RC-LCR
Front Heights: Polk RC65i --- Rears: Polk RC85i --- Sub: Power Sound Audio XS15
Pioneer VSX-1120K --- Parasound HCA-1000A --- Oppo BDP-103
Vincent Audio SA31 preamp --- Teac UD301 DAC
AIYIMA Tube T7 preamp --- Nobsound 12AX7 tube preamplifier -
Yes, I do. What a waste of hard-earned money.
Re-read the OP, I don't think he asked YOU to pass judgment. I am certainly not passing judgment on you about..............:rolleyes:
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
Find out the return policy there. Purchase them along with some Belden 5000u and compare.
Not sure if the LSi 7's are a done deal or not but I would take that $250 the cables cost and upgrade to the 9's.
I would put the 9's on Belden up against the 7's with 'Golden Parallel' any day of the week. -
Re-read the OP, I don't think he asked YOU to pass judgment. I am certainly not passing judgment on you about..............:rolleyes:
H9
I added my opinion on expensive cables--I think they're a waste of money. I did not pass judgment about the poster like you so graciously refrained from doing to me...TV: 65" Samsung QLED 4K
Fronts: Energy RC70 --- Center: Energy RC-LCR
Front Heights: Polk RC65i --- Rears: Polk RC85i --- Sub: Power Sound Audio XS15
Pioneer VSX-1120K --- Parasound HCA-1000A --- Oppo BDP-103
Vincent Audio SA31 preamp --- Teac UD301 DAC
AIYIMA Tube T7 preamp --- Nobsound 12AX7 tube preamplifier -
So you have tried these particular cables against "cheaper" cables, and you drew your own conclusion? Or, you just rally against anything you feel is over priced regardless whether you've spent any time listening to the product(s).
Seems very logical to me :rolleyes:
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
So you have tried these particular cables against "cheaper" cables, and you drew your own conclusion? Or, you just rally against anything you feel is over priced regardless whether you've spent any time listening to the product(s).
Seems very logical to me :rolleyes:
H9
I'm sorry, but I read the "warning" statement about cable burn-in on the OP's link and almost threw up. My logical conclusion is that the company is trying to dazzle me with bullsh*t so they can take my money. I think my reaction is quite logical, on the contrary. I'm not going to spend hundreds of dollars on a cable to prove a point to someone on the internet. Now that would be illogical, don't you think?TV: 65" Samsung QLED 4K
Fronts: Energy RC70 --- Center: Energy RC-LCR
Front Heights: Polk RC65i --- Rears: Polk RC85i --- Sub: Power Sound Audio XS15
Pioneer VSX-1120K --- Parasound HCA-1000A --- Oppo BDP-103
Vincent Audio SA31 preamp --- Teac UD301 DAC
AIYIMA Tube T7 preamp --- Nobsound 12AX7 tube preamplifier -
So, just as I thought, you are basing your decision, as well as advising others, without any experience using the cable in question or for that matter any other cables that sell above your arbitrary threshold of cost which I can resonably assume is low.
Good to know.........that certainly is a worthwhile and helpful statement :rolleyes: It's based on nothing but hot air.....you've been most helpful.
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
So, just as I thought, you are basing your decision, as well as advising others, without any experience using the cable in question or for that matter any other cables that sell above your arbitrary threshold of cost which I can resonably assume is low.
Good to know.........that certainly is a worthwhile and helpful statement :rolleyes: It's based on nothing but hot air.....you've been most helpful.
H9
Glad I can help.TV: 65" Samsung QLED 4K
Fronts: Energy RC70 --- Center: Energy RC-LCR
Front Heights: Polk RC65i --- Rears: Polk RC85i --- Sub: Power Sound Audio XS15
Pioneer VSX-1120K --- Parasound HCA-1000A --- Oppo BDP-103
Vincent Audio SA31 preamp --- Teac UD301 DAC
AIYIMA Tube T7 preamp --- Nobsound 12AX7 tube preamplifier -
I added my opinion on expensive cables--I think they're a waste of money. I did not pass judgment about the poster like you so graciously refrained from doing to me...
Why are you offering an opinion when you have zero knowledge of the subject? Cable trolls are amazingly arrogant since they feel they know everything, have no problem telling people what they should or should not do, yet have absolutely no actual experience with the subject. Apparently, they get their 'opinions' from their butt.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits. -
Why are you offering an opinion when you have zero knowledge of the subject? Cable trolls are amazingly arrogant since they feel they know everything, have no problem telling people what they should or should not do, yet have absolutely no actual experience with the subject. Apparently, they get their 'opinions' from their butt.
Arrogant? Maybe, but at least I didn't stoop to name calling. Nice job!TV: 65" Samsung QLED 4K
Fronts: Energy RC70 --- Center: Energy RC-LCR
Front Heights: Polk RC65i --- Rears: Polk RC85i --- Sub: Power Sound Audio XS15
Pioneer VSX-1120K --- Parasound HCA-1000A --- Oppo BDP-103
Vincent Audio SA31 preamp --- Teac UD301 DAC
AIYIMA Tube T7 preamp --- Nobsound 12AX7 tube preamplifier -
Just shut up if you aren't going to help the OP with any of this. All this BS doesn't help anyone.
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Just shut up if you aren't going to help the OP with any of this. All this BS doesn't help anyone.
You're absolutely right.
TOE, this is what I'm using for my rear surrounds. I did some A/B comparisons using these and a friend's MITs and found no discernable difference. Yes, the MIT's were much nicer and classier looking but this was not a concern considering I was shopping for in-wall cables:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10239&cs_id=1023901&p_id=2817&seq=1&format=2TV: 65" Samsung QLED 4K
Fronts: Energy RC70 --- Center: Energy RC-LCR
Front Heights: Polk RC65i --- Rears: Polk RC85i --- Sub: Power Sound Audio XS15
Pioneer VSX-1120K --- Parasound HCA-1000A --- Oppo BDP-103
Vincent Audio SA31 preamp --- Teac UD301 DAC
AIYIMA Tube T7 preamp --- Nobsound 12AX7 tube preamplifier -
What a waste of hard-earned money.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
TV: 65" Samsung QLED 4K
Fronts: Energy RC70 --- Center: Energy RC-LCR
Front Heights: Polk RC65i --- Rears: Polk RC85i --- Sub: Power Sound Audio XS15
Pioneer VSX-1120K --- Parasound HCA-1000A --- Oppo BDP-103
Vincent Audio SA31 preamp --- Teac UD301 DAC
AIYIMA Tube T7 preamp --- Nobsound 12AX7 tube preamplifier -
why not canare s411 IIRC,, Signal cable used this in their entry level cable.Just my two cents.JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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Yes, I do. What a waste of hard-earned money.Find out the return policy there. Purchase them along with some Belden 5000u and compare.
Not sure if the LSi 7's are a done deal or not but I would take that $250 the cables cost and upgrade to the 9's.
I would put the 9' on Belden up against the 7's with 'Golden Parallel' any day of the week.george daniel wrote: »why not canare s411 IIRC,, Signal cable used this in their entry level cable.Just my two cents.
I'm not against them....just was looking at a few cables and thought i'd ask about em.Living Room Rig:D
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Xbox360/PS3/WII
M.Br. setup:)
Emotiva MMC-1/Rotel RMB-1075/Polk BlackStone TL350's/Velodyne SPL1000/Samsung 51" Plasma
Computer Rig:
Rotel RB1050/Tannoy DC4's/Klipsch RW-10d/ImodIpod/HK AVR230 for now....
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Let me add i have played around with several different wires and i DO notice a difference with wires. I was going to get runs of wire to match my fronts but the company went under so i can't do that anymore. Just looking for a nice wire "under $3.00 per foot" with some good reviews/member referrals. The wire will be ran in-wall and at least 30foot maybe longer.Living Room Rig:D
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Xbox360/PS3/WII
M.Br. setup:)
Emotiva MMC-1/Rotel RMB-1075/Polk BlackStone TL350's/Velodyne SPL1000/Samsung 51" Plasma
Computer Rig:
Rotel RB1050/Tannoy DC4's/Klipsch RW-10d/ImodIpod/HK AVR230 for now....
Headphones-Ultrasone-HFI780's w/LittleDot MK Vamp Portables Panasonic HJE-900's -
An important point I forgot to mention in post #2 is this cable is solid wire, and it is also very small. It definitely isn’t 16 gauge, or probably even 18. While it does sound good (so much for the bigger is better school of thought), it easily breaks. I found that after installing the cable if I was not careful moving the rack in/out I would break a connection. Since there are five speaker connections the odds increase that one can be broken.
But now that I am used to it, I am not having any problems, although I know that one day another connection is going to break.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits. -
An important point I forgot to mention in post #2 is this cable is solid wire, and it is also very small. It definitely isn?t 16 gauge, or probably even 18. While it does sound good (so much for the bigger is better school of thought), it easily breaks. I found that after installing the cable if I was not careful moving the rack in/out I would break a connection. Since there are five speaker connections the odds increase that one can be broken.
But now that I am used to it, I am not having any problems, although I know that one day another connection is going to break.
I'm glad you posted this. I think i'm gonna be going with another cable in this case. I don't want to have to worry about breaking a cable so easy. Thank you!!Living Room Rig:D
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Xbox360/PS3/WII
M.Br. setup:)
Emotiva MMC-1/Rotel RMB-1075/Polk BlackStone TL350's/Velodyne SPL1000/Samsung 51" Plasma
Computer Rig:
Rotel RB1050/Tannoy DC4's/Klipsch RW-10d/ImodIpod/HK AVR230 for now....
Headphones-Ultrasone-HFI780's w/LittleDot MK Vamp Portables Panasonic HJE-900's -
I've tried several levels of MS speaker and interconnects. I liked the Golden Double Helix and some flat wire RCA's the best. I've given them up as a Karma and still waiting on a review from the guy who won them:frown:
Anyway, despite the hyperbole Pierre may write, they are a solid cable worthy of an audition in the least. I can say this since I've owned them and have tried them in my kit unlike some posters here.
Gordon2 Channel -
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I'm sorry, but I read the "warning" statement about cable burn-in on the OP's link and almost threw up. My logical conclusion is that the company is trying to dazzle me with bullsh*t so they can take my money. I think my reaction is quite logical, on the contrary. I'm not going to spend hundreds of dollars on a cable to prove a point to someone on the internet. Now that would be illogical, don't you think?
Pierre does tend to overstep the bounds of real advertising but what company does not? I would think if you haven't tried this "SPECIFIC" cable, you're unqualified to comment on them. Regardless of cost or hyperbole, you're NOT qualified to discuss this line on cables. Simple, cut and dried.
Gordon2 Channel -
Martin Logan Spire, 2 JL Audio F112 subs
McIntosh C1000 Controller with Tube pre amp, 2 MC501 amplifiers, MD1K Transport & DAC, MR-88 Tuner
WireWorld Eclipse 6.0 speaker wire and jumpers, Eclipse 5^2 Squared Balanced IC's. Silver Eclipse PCs (5)
Symposium Rollerblocks 2+ (16)Black Diamond Racing Mk 3 pits (8) -
Cable selection should be based on material and diameter. Regular copper stranded, 12ga wire will work very well.
"Cable burn-in"....wow, it's amazing what some companies will say. I used to own a saltwater aquarium shop. You'd be amazed at some of the claims manufacturers claim in that genre.
Most wire and interconnect claims are pretty bogus. Monster was one of the pioneers in this market, and others have used them as a starting point for their BS.
$30 for a 3' Best Buy brand HDMI cable,$65 for the Monster, seriously? They're $4 online and just as good.
Sorry for the rant, but had to back up the reasonable people. -
Cable selection should be based on material and diameter. Regular copper stranded, 12ga wire will work very well.
"Cable burn-in"....wow, it's amazing what some companies will say. I used to own a saltwater aquarium shop. You'd be amazed at some of the claims manufacturers claim in that genre.
Most wire and interconnect claims are pretty bogus. Monster was one of the pioneers in this market, and others have used them as a starting point for their BS.
$30 for a 3' Best Buy brand HDMI cable,$65 for the Monster, seriously? They're $4 online and just as good.
Sorry for the rant, but had to back up the reasonable people.
Amateur.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
LOL, to each their own.
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LOL, to each their own.
If your trying to convince me to use .50cents a foot wire your fighting a losing battle. I do and can hear the difference in wires and therefore do not need your opinion on how i should spend my money.Living Room Rig:D
Rotel RSP-1069/Rotel RMB-1095/Rotel-1072/Polk lsI15's W/modded xoverW/DBsubs/Polk LsiC/lsI7's/Klipsch sub-12"the weak link"/DLP Mitsubishi 65"
Xbox360/PS3/WII
M.Br. setup:)
Emotiva MMC-1/Rotel RMB-1075/Polk BlackStone TL350's/Velodyne SPL1000/Samsung 51" Plasma
Computer Rig:
Rotel RB1050/Tannoy DC4's/Klipsch RW-10d/ImodIpod/HK AVR230 for now....
Headphones-Ultrasone-HFI780's w/LittleDot MK Vamp Portables Panasonic HJE-900's -
My comment above was to Keiko and F1nut.
A second look at your OP reminds me that you have no problem spending $200 on wire for $600 speakers. Sorry for the intrusion. -
My comment above was to Keiko and F1nut.
A second look at your OP reminds me that you have no problem spending $200 on wire for $600 speakers. Sorry for the intrusion.
I'm sorry my setup makes you have little man syndrome but hey guess what, they make pills for that.:cool:
And your wrong, i only paid $300 for the lsi7's that i am currently looking for some nice wires for long runs.lol. stay mad my friend, stay mad.Living Room Rig:D
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Xbox360/PS3/WII
M.Br. setup:)
Emotiva MMC-1/Rotel RMB-1075/Polk BlackStone TL350's/Velodyne SPL1000/Samsung 51" Plasma
Computer Rig:
Rotel RB1050/Tannoy DC4's/Klipsch RW-10d/ImodIpod/HK AVR230 for now....
Headphones-Ultrasone-HFI780's w/LittleDot MK Vamp Portables Panasonic HJE-900's