What do you guys eat for breakfast?

newrival

Demiurge wrote: »

There's nothing wrong with milk. Eat lots of soy if you want a nice set of ****.

seems logical when you put it that way...:rolleyes:

Demiurge

newrival wrote: »

seems logical when you put it that way...:rolleyes:

I just figured we'd compound one myth with another.

zombie boy 2000

Pretty much the only thing I can drink or eat for breakfast is skim milk. Everything else is just too much in the morning - food or drink. Go figure.

As far as milk is concerned, anything 1% or higher is like drinking sludge to me.

tonyb

I know any advice from a guy who smokes and drinks coffee like water may be useless, but here is just a small example of why you shouldn't drink regular milk. I know of the arguements for and against, but for all you science guys, the science of it makes sense. Before I explain why you should stop drinking these types of milk, let me tell you the good points of milk and then you will better understand the information that follows. Everything from here on is a cut and paste from an article.

Please appreciate that the good points I am about to relate to you is for RAW unpasteurized, non homogenized milk... the type that maybe your mother gave you when you were an infant. (assuming that you are over 50 years of age now) and almost impossible to buy today.

This raw unadulterated, unprocessed milk was a 'living' food full of enzymes, beneficial bacteria, vitamins, minerals, fats, proteins and lactose (a sugar). Leave a glass of this sitting at normal room temperature and the bacteria within the milk will ferment the sugars into lactic acid, producing sour milk, which ironically is even more nutritious than the fresh milk because it is partly digested.

Very few people were allergic to raw milk...

Unlike today's processed milks, few people were allergic to the raw milk because of the active enzymes present. For example, there is exactly enough lactase to digest the lactose, protease for the protein and lipase to digest the fat. These enzymes also help the absorption of calcium and the assimilation of other minerals.

So, raw pasteurized milk did give health benefits to many people. Personally I have never drunk any kind of milk, because I don't think that it is a natural food once you are no longer an infant... but, that's only a personal opinion and may indeed be the wrong one. However, I know that I am not wrong on the negative health impact that milk from your supermarket will give you.

First of all, let's look at what pasteurization is! In simple terms, it is a process in which the milk is heated to high temperatures to kill any bacteria present. Fair enough, but the heating kills all the enzymes as well and these are vital components of milk! In fact, the 'death' of the enzymes is how they determine that the process is successful. When all the enzymes are dead, the pasteurization process is considered to be complete!

This process not only kills the enzymes and any bad bacteria, but also kills friendly bacteria (such as Lactobacillus). This means that the digestion of the various nutrients (such as proteins, fats and sugars) then has to be carried out by the body without any assistance from the naturally occurring enzymes and bacteria in the milk, and because of their absence additional undue stress is placed on the pancreas.

Bad hygiene?

So, why is the milk pasteurized in the first place? The answer to that one as you probably know is to make milk safer by killing any contaminants present. This is correct but it is not the true reason. The reality is that pasteurized milk is just as susceptible to contamination as raw milk.

Pasteurization has only come into 'vogue' in the last few decades as the commercialization of the dairy industry evolved. It is a cheap substitute for effective sanitization. If cows, dairies and workers were scrupulously clean, pasteurization would not be necessary... but that's too expensive and so the simple way is to 'kill' everything in the milk. There are some parallels to the increasing practice of irradiating meat... it's a lot cheaper to 'zap' it rather than avoid the contamination in the first place.

Milk which is pasteurized is an 'empty' food like so many other processed foods and people are unwittingly drinking it thinking that it is good for you, when the opposite is true!

But it gets worse...

What about milk which is pasteurized AND homogenized? This is the type of milk that is most prevalent in supermarkets today and people are unwittingly ingesting a lot of undesirable fat.

Our younger readers won't realize this but the good 'ole' milk always had a layer of cream which settled on the top of the milk. Homogenization is a technique used to make milk uniform in texture. It breaks up the fat in the cream fraction into very small particles. The tiny globules of fat which result from this process allows a deadly enzyme called xanthine oxidase to get into the body.

This enzyme can damage artery walls by causing lesions to occur on the lining. All milk fat excluding that from humans have this enzyme... but, it is not normally a problem as the fat globules that contain the enzyme are too large to pass through the intestinal wall and into the bloodstream. So, in non homogenized milk the enzyme will pass through the body without doing any damage. Not so however, after the milk has been homogenized because the particles are then small enough to squeeze through the intestinal linings!

Enough said!

shack

tonyb wrote:

Enough said!

Changes nothing for me. I like it and will continue to drink it. Like you said...health advice from someone who drinks lots of caffine and smokes should probably be taken with a grain of salt (as opposed to many grains of salt which I'm sure someone will chime in about how bad THAT is :rolleyes:)

Rivrrat

Conradicles wrote: »

A big glass of V8

Same here.

Later in the morning, I'll have a p&J sandwich (sugar free jelly) and a banana.

danger boy

about a year ago I stoped drinking skim milk.. after being raised on 2%.. i gave it all up.. not sure if i'm lactose intolerant or not.. but now I drink low fat Silk soy milk regular flavor. it's quite good actually..but it's hella expensive. :frown:

greyford1979

RuSsMaN wrote: »

Soup usually.

What a funny word, soup. Soup. SOUP. Now it looks like it is spelled wrong.

No soup for you!!!! I can't believe nobody else said it

One thing I have noticed is that any more nothing is safe or healthy to eat any more lol....one moment it's healthy and the next some scientist says it's bad for you. We eat healthy but also enjoy eating things on occasion that are not.

gdb

Anything that was good enough for John Belushi, well, little chocolate doughnuts are good enough for me too ! Gave up the smokes.

AsSiMiLaTeD

shack wrote: »

Changes nothing for me. I like it and will continue to drink it. Like you said...health advice from someone who drinks lots of caffine and smokes should probably be taken with a grain of salt (as opposed to many grains of salt which I'm sure someone will chime in about how bad THAT is :rolleyes:)

Agreed. One could really take about any food that we consume and analyze it to the level where it's not good to consume.

I am going to look into the organic milk though.

danz1906

Honey Nut Cheerios

gdb

In my "younger days", it was a Heineken or a Budweiser and a slice of old, cold pizza. I miss those days.:frown:

bobman1235

INteresting read, tonyb. THough I hate the "i don't think it's natural to dirnk milk unless you're an infant" argument. This whole evolved human thing means we do and eat lots of things that aren't "natural." Cooked food could be considered "unnatural" as far as the animal kingdom goes. As could any medicine. Certainly cars, computers, phones, synthetic clothing... all pretty "unnatural."

AsSiMiLaTeD

I have a friend who drinks raw milk and swears its better for you. He's probably right. However the raw milk they drink is grey, I don't do grey milk

Jstas

Enzymes are not living things and therefore cannot be "killed".

en?zyme
?noun
any of various proteins, as pepsin, originating from living cells and capable of producing certain chemical changes in organic substances by catalytic action, as in digestion.


The application of heat in such a process as pasteurization, can break down the structure of an enzyme reducing or eliminating it's catalyzing effects. Besides, typical pasteurization processes do not reach or sustain a high enough temperature to be able to break down the molecular structure of most proteins and enzymes. However, time can cause proteins and enzymes to degrade as well as stuff like UV light. Because of the extended shelf life that pasteurization techniques have enabled, the break down to ineffectiveness of these proteins and enzymes is more likely due to the ravages of time, UV exposure and other environmental factors that it is due to pasteurization.

That's science. Not some hippie BS. Science. Backed by research that is both proven and repeatable. About as close to a fact as science is willing to get.

I'm thirsty. Think I'll go get a couple of chocolate chip cookies and big glass of MILK I got from the supermarket. Maybe it'll kill me, maybe it won't. If it does, at least I'll die happy with a belly full of milk and cookies while others can continue to stew about sucking raw milk out of cow ****. :rolleyes:

cokewithvanilla

I eat something with chicken. Basically, if I have rice... its chicken and rice.. if I have noodles, its chicken and noodles....

JimKellyfan

work day - breakfast bar and a banana
weekends - the sky's the limit, too many possibilities to list, but it definitely is too much and too bad for me ;>)

AsSiMiLaTeD

We picked up some organic milk on the way home today. All the health benefits (if tehre really are any) aside, I'll be going this route from now on, it tastes much better than the regular milk we buy.

I even had my wife help me with a double blind test to verify my results :-) (seriously though I did)

maximillian

gdb wrote: »

You forgot a favorite Italian soup that is queerly named.......fagioli :eek::biggrin: (not that there is....)

LOL. Love how Ray Romano pronounces it. I can't stand how most peple say it though, "Fah-yule". BTW, technically I wasn't mentioning specific soup names but generic terms for soup.

inspiredsports

I wish I could change so I will be watching the comments here too. I fresh-grind Starbucks hi-test and brew a pot every morning, drinking 3-5 cups (black) until I eat lunch around noon.

mrbigbluelight

Like Steveinaz, I'm firm believer in the coffee and smokes regimen.

For those who may be worried about the makeup of milk, it's been scientifically proven that Ovaltine eliminates any health hazards. Need to consume at least half a gallon a day for full benefits, though.

Demiurge

Demiurge wrote: »

Home made guacamole.

10 Min
1 Avocado
1/4 Red Onion
2 Roma Tomatoes
1 Clove of Garlic
Special Blend of Spices

Might not look appetizing, but it tastes great. Eats like a meal and its all veggies. Love it.

Today's Batch:

PolkClyde

A lot of Veggie Burgers and soy product.

dragon1952

Toast w/ peanut butter and coffee, and sometimes a fruit bowl or smoothie an hour or so later.

bobman1235

Demiurge wrote: »

10 Min
1 Avocado
1/4 Red Onion
2 Roma Tomatoes
1 Clove of Garlic
Special Blend of Spices

Might not look appetizing, but it tastes great. Eats like a meal and its all veggies. Love it.

Plus, you dont' have to worry about anyone wanting to talk to you all day!

Demiurge

I suppose that's true if you don't brush your teeth.

bobman1235

tonyb

Whatever boys and girls, just posted the milk thing as a FYI, nothing more or less. Organic milk though, is still processed. My own problem lies with takeing out the good stuff and just leaving fat to be consumed. Much the same happens in the dairy world as does the farming world. Think Monsanto,Dean, and the money they throw around to get their way.
Since us audio geeks research stuff 9 ways to sunday before making a purchase, doing a little research into what goes in your mouth only seems logical. Unless you don't care then all is mute. I like to think we all try and balance our lives with our obsessions for bad habits and good. Hell, I have plenty of bad ones, smokeing, ice cream, cookies, gotta offset some with some good stuff is all I'm sayin'.

treitz3

I heard from a friend that Organic milk also stays fresh longer than regular milk. Haven't verified it but she said that it keeps about twice as long. It works out great for her, as she doesn't go through milk that often and she doesn't have to keep throwing out the lower costing regular milk because it spoils before she has a chance to use it.

dorourke07

The Lion's defense eats quarterbacks!!!