External Sub EQs?
Erik Tracy
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Anyone use external sub eqs?
Seen several talked about: SVS, Velodyne, Anti-Mode, Behringer....
Are they a useful tweak and worth the cost and time?
Seen several talked about: SVS, Velodyne, Anti-Mode, Behringer....
Are they a useful tweak and worth the cost and time?
H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
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I have not used an auto sub EQ but have used REW and a BFD 1124. Makes a huge difference.
Your AVR can not EQ your sub as it will see the peaks and afjust based upon the peaks which ends up lowering the sub levels.
I like REW because it is free and really helps you find the sub sweet spot. Then use the BFD to lower the peaks. Then run your AVR eq.
The BFD is cheap and can be found at Guitar Center.
My SVS has one filter which is all I need but still used REW to set the filter on the SVS correctly.Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs -
I have not used an auto sub EQ but have used REW and a BFD 1124. Makes a huge difference.
Your AVR can not EQ your sub as it will see the peaks and afjust based upon the peaks which ends up lowering the sub levels.
I like REW because it is free and really helps you find the sub sweet spot. Then use the BFD to lower the peaks. Then run your AVR eq.
The BFD is cheap and can be found at Guitar Center.
My SVS has one filter which is all I need but still used REW to set the filter on the SVS correctly.
Thanks - was looking into an external sub eq for two-channel compensation for my room constraints. The bass is good right now, but was considering a 'tweak' to eek more... :biggrin:
Some subs do have built in eq features - but was thinking I'd keep my current sub and try an external eq first.
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If your preamp or receiver does not have any kind of room correction then this is very useful. I have used many different ones.Dan
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If your preamp or receiver does not have any kind of room correction then this is very useful. I have used many different ones.
Which would you recommend for easiest to use with auto-eq?
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I have a Velodyne SMS-1. I would consider it a significant improvement. I will say that I had better results with the manual setup over the auto, but both were better than without.
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I use some pro audio gear to manage the subwoofers.
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Why not use REW to see how much room correction you need. Just need a PC, sound card with true mic in, SPL meter and some cables.
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THere is a learning curve but well worth the time invested.
You might be surprised how just finding the position will help and may not be worth the cost of a sub eq or just how badly you need one.
It cost me about $125 for the BFD with USB filter upload cable. I was using it on 1 true sub and 2 mid-bass modules.Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs -
I get stunning/massive subwoofer results with DBX EQ's
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Why not use REW to see how much room correction you need. Just need a PC, sound card with true mic in, SPL meter and some cables.
hometheatershack.com
THere is a learning curve but well worth the time invested.
You might be surprised how just finding the position will help and may not be worth the cost of a sub eq or just how badly you need one.
It cost me about $125 for the BFD with USB filter upload cable. I was using it on 1 true sub and 2 mid-bass modules.
The thing is for my room set up, I have little/no options for position: its fixed - front wall, left side, just under the left main bookshelf.
The REW, mic, and soundcard + time would probably tell me for optimal setup I need some eq.....that and I'm lazy....
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Erik Tracy wrote: »
The thing is for my room set up, I have little/no options for position: its fixed - front wall, left side, just under the left main bookshelf.
The REW, mic, and soundcard + time would probably tell me for optimal setup I need some eq.....that and I'm lazy....
It's all about what sounds best for you. I have always craved a deep,heavy,powerful bass presentation for my 2 ch rig.:biggrin: -
I have not used an auto sub EQ but have used REW and a BFD 1124. Makes a huge difference.
You have to love Behringer. The DCX is also a piece to consider. Using it with a Behringer AMP and my LFE output is stunning.
Can you save presets with the BFD 1124? -
Erik Tracy wrote: »Anyone use external sub eqs?
Seen several talked about: SVS, Velodyne, Anti-Mode, Behringer....
Are they a useful tweak and worth the cost and time?
Another to check out is the Mini-DSP. Really looking to be a flexible piece of gear for not a lot of $$.
Here is a end user review at Audioholics.com -
I have been seriously considering this as well. Will have to check out the Mini-DSP & DCX.
