An upgrade that wasn't

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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,603
    edited January 2011
    tonyb wrote: »
    ....T-unit with his cardboard subwoofer has got to rank close to the top.:smile:

    I missed this thread I suppose....:frown:
    --Gary--
    Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out.
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
    edited January 2011
    Try some Blue Jeans LC-1 Low Capacitance Audio Cable. $35 for 3 ft. No gimmicks or fancy name, just a very good cable.
    http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/audio/
    2 channel - Willsenton R8 tube integrated, Holo Audio Spring 3 KTE DAC, audio optimized NUC7i5, Windows 10 Pro/JRiver MC29/Fidelizer Plus 8.7 w/LPS and external SSD drive, PS Audio PerfectWave P3 regenerator, KEF R3 speakers, Rythmik F12SE subwoofer, Audioquest Diamond USB cable, Gabriel Gold IC's, Morrow Audio SP5 speaker cables. Computer - Windows 10/JRiver, Schiit Magni 3+/Modi 3+, Fostex PMO.4n monitors, Sennheiser HD600 headphones
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited January 2011
    tony,
    C'mon man.... don't leave me hanging. Link us up, so next time I know how low to shoot.

    shack,
    Never been to the big leagues... in the deep end of the pool... AH that is. Here and AK does me fine.
    ben62670 wrote: »
    The currant flows through the IC's via the pre. The hot of the pre is tied to the ground just like in an amp.

    Edit:Input impeadance on an average pre is 47k. This basically means that the signal has a 47k resistance to ground.
    ben,
    You do realize just how little current you are talking about? I mean a say 100-ish mV potential applied across a 47+ kilo-Ohm load = 0.00000213 amperes or 2.13 micro-amps.

    Not flaming you... just skeptical.


    jet,
    Sorry for the hi-jack... if you want I'll start another thread. Just say the word.
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited January 2011
    I hear ya T2M. I have thought about building a simple female jack with a low value resistor across the pin and jacket to increase the currant. That would speed up burn in times considerably using a CDP as a source. It would be a much cheaper option than getting a cable cooker. I have also thought about using a small amp and putting a 4r12w resistor across the pin and jacket for cooking purposes. A little shootout would be fun, but I would want it to be tried by a few different Polkies to get a more honest opinion than just one individuals thoughts.
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • Jetmaker737
    Jetmaker737 Posts: 1,047
    edited January 2011
    Tour2ma wrote: »
    jet,
    Sorry for the hi-jack... if you want I'll start another thread. Just say the word.

    No worries, I've been considering Ben's suggestion and had similar questions so thanks for taking point!

    I'm thinking what I may do to give these D-backs a fair shot is hook them up between my tuner and Pre and let it run.
    SystemLuxman L-590AXII Integrated Amplifier|KEF Reference 1 Loudspeakers|PS Audio Directream Jr|Sansui TU-9900 Tuner|TEAC A-6100 RtR|Nakamichi RX-202 Cassette
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited January 2011
    I had the Diamondbacks too. At first I liked them, but after a while I couldn't stand them anymore. I don't know if it was bad synergy or something else.
    I then purchased a set of AQ Jaguar and I liked it a lot more than the DB but still wasn't satisfied. Since then I've stayed away from silver connectors and have been very happy. I'm sure they're great cables, but they just don't work out in my rig.

    btw, I like your screen name. Are you a fan of the Boeing 737?
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited January 2011
    ^ I am betting Jetmaker737 + Seattle, WA = BA employee... past or present.

    jet,
    I'm a stockholder... Forget breaking in IC's and go fix the Dreamliner... :mad:

    ben,
    Now I'm not following your rig proposal... What would the resistor be across that it would form a circuit? Are you talking about the IC's core and shielding?

    And I really got lost on the "small amp" option...

    Real issue I have is given skin effects and other demonstrated wire idiosyncrasies, I've a hard time seeing the benefits of a < 0.1 ma current...
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
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  • Jetmaker737
    Jetmaker737 Posts: 1,047
    edited January 2011
    Tour2ma wrote: »
    I'm a stockholder... Forget breaking in IC's and go fix the Dreamliner... :mad:

    I was on the 737 program for several years. I'm now on the 787 and am working very hard to protect your investment!
    SystemLuxman L-590AXII Integrated Amplifier|KEF Reference 1 Loudspeakers|PS Audio Directream Jr|Sansui TU-9900 Tuner|TEAC A-6100 RtR|Nakamichi RX-202 Cassette
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited January 2011
    Attaboy...

    Just don't tell me you work on cockpit wiring... Talk about wire "burn-in"... :biggrin:
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited January 2011
    What happened to the 737? I thought they're still the most popular and best selling model?

    Can't wait until the 787's start flying. I live near the airport and plane spot with binoculars from the backyard once in a while. Would love to see those massive wing flex while flying near the house. I see a lot of 737's, 777, once in a while I get some nice views of A330's. On busy hours, I see one every few seconds. Don't know how many runways are being used.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited January 2011
    shack wrote: »
    I found the both the Copperheads and Diamondbacks to be a step up in sound quality from the Sidewinders. The differences were subtle but there. I think the Diamondbacks may be more detailed/revealing...which is probably what you are noticing and don't like. I also felt they provided a little better bass response when I compared them (about 6 years ago). My sidewinders haven't seen use in a long time. I sold the Diamondbacks and kept the Copperheads as the difference between them were hardly noticable.

    Ditto but with some comments from past listening.

    Years ago when we got in Audioquest , we had the entire line in store to demo. I listened carefully to each IC. What I noticed is basically what was written above. Moving from system to system with different speakers and gear, this really did not change.
    The Sidwinder IC's are a very good detailed IC. I find nothing wrong with them especially for what they cost. They are such a value. When moving up the AQ line , slight improvements are made like the cables become more refined. When you enter into the BDS series , this is where the "like balanced" type sound or lack their of is reached. very clear and detailed. You can hear a pretty big difference going from the King Cobra to the Jaguars. But the Sidewinder IC still even compared to this level perform very well.
    I have no complaints about any Audioquest cables including speaker wire or IC. Everything they make even at entry level is top notch.

    Synergy is a **** and I feel is almost impossible to get it right unless you have unlimited funds and a wealth of gear , speakers , wires , sources etc. I do however feel with patience , trail and error one can build a system to enjoy.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited January 2011
    organ wrote: »
    I see a lot of 737's, 777, once in a while I get some nice views of A330's. On busy hours, I see one every few seconds.
    Triple-7's are the shiznit...
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
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  • Jetmaker737
    Jetmaker737 Posts: 1,047
    edited January 2011
    organ wrote: »
    What happened to the 737?

    Nothing other than we build 31 of them per month and soon to go to 35. :cool:
    SystemLuxman L-590AXII Integrated Amplifier|KEF Reference 1 Loudspeakers|PS Audio Directream Jr|Sansui TU-9900 Tuner|TEAC A-6100 RtR|Nakamichi RX-202 Cassette
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited January 2011
    Nothing to see here Mr. SEC... move along...

    Memo to self: Buy more BA...
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited January 2011
    Aaah good to hear. I thought something bad happened.

    Tour,
    Yeah, I love the 777 but for the past 20+ years, the McDonnel Douglas DC-10 has been my favorite. It's nice to see a handful of them still flying today.

    Man, I just realized I hijacked your thread. I apologize for the de-rail.
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited January 2011
    organ wrote: »
    ...the McDonnel Douglas DC-10 has been my favorite.
    Excepting once when I had no alternative, I refused to fly in the 10's... that whole cargo hatch/ crash thing kinda put me off of them.

    EDIT: ... and for mentioning planes and "hijack" in the same post, I'm pretty sure you just made the No-Fly list... :biggrin:
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
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