Money For Nothing must be edited

cfrizz

Not really news the radio stations here delete that entire verse when they play the song.

shack

dkg999 wrote:

And up until about half-way through this thread I really thought somebody was offended by "get your chicks for free" and wanted to put a price-tag on them.

Years ago, you used to be able to get lots of chicks for free right after Easter...usually dyed pastel colors. Bunny rabbits too.

wayne3burk

... money for nothing Karma cross-post

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1502120#post1502120

i'm just saying

-- wayne --

brettw22

F1nut wrote: »

Brett, you need to learn how to let things like a word roll off your back.

For example, juju called me a **** here on the forum. Big deal, I look at who said it, laugh and thank God that I'm not him.

They were two different thoughts:
1. I have not a care in the world about the song.....I never knew the word existed and every time I've ever heard it apparently from it's inception (on the radio) has been edited so whatever.

2. People who are ignorant will never shy away from showing to what degree they are.

brettw22 wrote: »

I haven't ever heard the unedited version apparently, because I never knew the words existed in the song until today. In over the air versions, songs have things taken out all the time. I hear a lot of songs that are toned out or something to eliminate swearing or inappropriate material. Is this a hypersensitive thing for OTA programming? I don't necessarily think so, and that has nothing to do with my being ****.

If any of you can say/think something so idiotic as "I didn't know the word **** could/would be offensive" you are a complete moron. Is that unclear?

Being called **** isn't offensive any more than you being called straight is (if you REALLY need this explained to you, you're showing post by post how low your intelligence level is).

There is not one way that any of you could ever call me **** where it wouldn't result in your **** being......beaten......(perhaps on the forum you'd get away with it, but you wouldn't consider it in person).

BeRad

This reminds me of the first time I really noticed the stupidity of our censorship laws.

Meridith Brooks would proudly proclaim that "I'm a ****" in her one hit single, and immediately afterward, in The Offspring's "Get a Job" you would hear how his "Friend's got a girlfriend, man he hates that

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Same context, different singer (and first person / third person if you feel like splitting hairs)

Canada just wants to become a mirrored image of Great Britain quite badly with regards to it's legislation.

God bless Sirius satellite radio!

I don't believe there is a bad word in the English language. There are just bad people, bad circumstances, bad breath, and bad CONTEXT!

MillerLiteScott

I remember when custom kitchens and microwave ovens were cool to have, in fact at that time it was really cool to have a CD player.

Willow

I have to admit, I don't like the term used in the song. It's a good song. I wonder if anyone on here doesn't listen to this song due to the lyrics.

FTGV

treitz3 wrote: »

t's sad to see that your Country is as dumb as ours when it comes to Mamby Pamby land issues.

Yep,PC is alive and well here too:redface:

treitz3

Lasareath wrote: »

reported

What did you report? The "f" word, the "c" word, the "F.P" words or the fact that someone said the word...and I quote...."redneck"? :eek:

vc69

unc2701 wrote: »

Roland 808. It's this old school sampler that all the early rap artists used and you have to pay an arm & leg to get a hold of these days.

You get the cookie!

Specifically it's the boomin 808 kick drum and tight snare samples that you hear a lot and was very popular.

Btw...I'm with bobman on this one.

mdaudioguy

I've only ever heard this song WITH said word in it, and since I don't own it, this is purely from radio. Seriously, get over it folks. Listen to it in context. Hard to believe anyone is showing outrage over this 30 year old song. Really, after that amount of time, it should be grandfathered in anyhow.

shack

Much ado about nothing IMO.

Fongolio

What blows me away is that this song is being edited while many truly offensive rap songs with lyrics that could only be thought of as womanizing, sexualizing, violent and seriously anti-social survive unscathed. The lyrics in money for nothing were always meant to from the perspective of an every day working stiff joe watching MTV and being jealous of the rock start lifestyle. This is still art and as a Canadian I'm pissed that friggin' conservative federal government is doing this crap. Just as in Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn the bad words are being used to illustrate a point. It's not used to promote racism in Tom Sawyer and it's not used to promote homophobia in Money For Nothing. Both are art and should be left alone.

treitz3

brettw22 wrote: »

If any of you can say/think something so idiotic as "I didn't know the word **** could/would be offensive" you are a complete moron. Is that unclear?

Being called **** isn't offensive any more than you being called straight is (if you REALLY need this explained to you, you're showing post by post how low your intelligence level is).

There is not one way that any of you could ever call me **** where it wouldn't result in your **** being......beaten......(perhaps on the forum you'd get away with it, but you wouldn't consider it in person).

Brett, I have never met you before. I could care less if you are **** or not. Really, I'm about as laid back as they come with that, just don't hit on me and all is well.

You could call me a **** all day long and I could care less. Anybody could. Anybody could call me the "n" word, a redneck, yellowback, a stupid MF, a lactose intolerant decrepit old **** or even a donkey d!(k licker. I really don't care for they are just words.

That said, it's just a song. It's not a song about you in particular. It's not a song about faggots, chicks or rednecks. It's just a song and in that song are words that are in the dictionary. The same dictionary that all English speaking people refer to when they would like to know the meaning of something.

Now, you are insinuating that I may be a moron or an idiot because I do not see why folks would get offended at the use of the word **** in a song. For that, you can blow me.....but not in the literal sense.

Let's spin this around and look at it from the redneck's view, shall we? A redneck is usually a derogatory term used to describe a poor Southern working man. Cracker, hillbilly and poor white trash all similarly mean the same thing as a redneck. I'm poor, I'm white and I have a tanned neck from working outside in the Southern sun everyday.

Oh, hell.....all of a sudden, "I'm" offended! That song just referred to my working class as "rednecks"! BAN THE SONG!!!!! BE OFFENDED!!!!! SPREAD THE WORD!!!!!

Give me a damned break dude. It's just a song.

That said, am I the ignorant one or are you looking in the mirror?

Tour2ma

t3,

Why not take the word of the person stating it's an offensive term and leave it at that? You seem to have managed that with “the N word.”

I bet that within three PM's could throw enough terms at you that your entire face would be red instead of just your neck... and the "don't hit on me" and “blow me” quips, well those were just brilliant... :rolleyes:

BTW what is the non-literal sense for the latter quip?


Hey brett,

How ya doing bro? Still in the tabernacle I see...

treitz3

Tour2ma wrote: »

t3,

Why not take the word of the person stating it's an offensive term and leave it at that?

Well, let's see....He insinuated that I was an idiot and a moron. I apologize but that was "offensive" to me.

Can't imagine why? :rolleyes:

Tour2ma

Brett didn't insinuate it, he said it.

Sorry I missed the subtle irony of your post. I thought it was all about your being impervious to insult. My bad, I underestimated your pettiness... and for that I apologize

treitz3

.....like a 747.......

Apology accepted.

BeRad

I used the N word once while drunkenly 'rapping' (I'm always willing to make an arse out of myself in front of familiar company) along to a song we were listening to at my buddies house, in front of a girl that had child with an African Canadian. She got all angry and demanded that I apologized for using the word. :O

I said; "Well, if you actually new me as well as all of these people around us, you would know that I don't use slurs or the such to attack or offend anybody. I was just singing along to part of the song that I like. That being said, I WILL say this... I'm sorry you are so overly sensitive to the meaningless ramblings of others. Life must be difficult and upsetting for you."

I've got nothing against censoring certain songs that use any kind of slur with intention of attacking or offending. Unfortunately, just a word on it's own, and not even used in a sentence to relay any sort of meaning; will offend someone who will make a big deal of it.

+1 for leaving art alone.

tonyb

No sense making a mountain out of a mole hill here. Truth is, if you think you can go through life and escape being offended in one form or another, your in for a rough ride boys and girls.

FTGV

Fongolio wrote: »

What blows me away is that this song is being edited while many truly offensive rap songs with lyrics that could only be thought of as womanizing, sexualizing, violent and seriously anti-social survive unscathed.

To call a spade a spade it's because some(not all) in the "offended group" think they deserve special rights.Squeeky wheel gets the grease I suppose.

brettw22

Apparently 2 separate thoughts being separated with different colors wasn't clear enough.......

The red were my comments as they pertained to the song.

The blue were my comments in response to people who would think that the word **** shouldn't be offensive (totally separate from this song situation). Lacking the intelligence to understand that calling a **** person a **** would be insulting is idiotic.

You asked if you were ignorant......the answer is yes.

treitz3

Thank you. Thank you very much.

I'll take that as a compliment. You guys [Is it alright if I call you a "guy"?] are taking this WAY too seriously. Tell you what, I'll take a step back and listen to some Vanilla Ice. How about "Ice, Ice Baby"? I sure hope that doesn't offend someone who has ice or snow on their doorstep right now.....

:rolleyes:

Enjoy that mirror.

brettw22

What part of "I don't care about the song" are you unable to process?

You might think it's cute to ask if I'm OK being called a 'guy,' joking about blowing you, and/or hitting on you, but I think it's sad and pathetic you're so willing to put that type of commentary out there.

treitz3

If you don't care about the song, then why are you posting, Brett? It's ONE word. You haven't even heard it yet until it was brought to your attention on this thread. According to your world, I should be offended about "that song" calling the brothers I work for "rednecks".

BTW, I don't think it's cute to ask of anything. This is obviously a debate in which you and I feel strongly opposed on. I'm just stating reality, which is the world I live in.

brettw22

I don't know if you can claim to live in reality if you keep trying to bring two separate points together when I've explicitly repeated that I was making two different comments.

I have heard the song with the word in it as I looked up the song and listened to it based on this thread. I'm not a fan of it being in there, but I haven't once in the 25 years the song has been out ever heard that version anywhere (tv, radio, etc.).

I do find it interesting though.....is the outrage about the word missing a new thing or has that been happening all along from 1985 - 2010 since it's mostly been played without that verse on the radio all this time?

F1nut

Lacking the intelligence to understand that calling a **** person a **** would be insulting is idiotic.

Just spit balling here. In your opinion, would be be more insulting to a straight guy or a **** guy to be called a ****? I ask because I'm straight and have been called that and it didn't bother me at all.

I'm thinking that it's the person that allows a word to "insult" them that lacks intelligence.

nooshinjohn

brettw22 wrote: »

I do find it interesting though.....is the outrage about the word missing a new thing or has that been happening all along from 1985 - 2010 since it's mostly been played without that verse on the radio all this time?

I have never heard the edited version of the song anywhere, always the original. But I do find the entire concept of editing this song moronic at best. Maybe I will find this action important AFTER they edit the cop-killing out of N.W.A's "F!@# tha Police" and all the other music(if it can be called that) that glorifies rape, murder and other douchebaggery.

treitz3

brettw22 wrote: »

I do find it interesting though.....is the outrage about the word missing a new thing or has that been happening all along from 1985 - 2010 since it's mostly been played without that verse on the radio all this time?

Good question and I would bet that it is regionally defined. I have always heard the version in its entirety. No matter the source. This thread was actually [for me] the first time I ever heard any words or lyrics banned or omitted from any media for this song or band.

I am surprised, however, that you haven't given a listen to Money for Nothing yet. It's a great reference album that's very well recorded and has been talked about countless times on this and many other forums, magazines, online articles, general talk.....etc...

Systems

Nirvana's "Rape Me" was actually edited on the CD cover itself.
I have an original (before the uproar), but it was latter changed to "Waif me" of all ridiculous things!