Money For Nothing must be edited

Willow
Willow Posts: 11,006
edited January 2011 in The Clubhouse
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited January 2011
    Slow news day in Canada, eh?
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2011
    I think they have it backwards... if anything, that term seems to be less offensive these days, as well have gone out of "style." (Disclaimer, i'm not saying that everyone should use the word because it's awesome.)
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  • davidk0512
    davidk0512 Posts: 157
    edited January 2011
    Money For Nothing and just about anything else by Mark Knopfler is what I really crank up to regain an appreciation for how good my speakers sound.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,004
    edited January 2011
    I don't get it. If you are going to be offended over that word, wouldn't being called **** be the same thing?

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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited January 2011
    They (radio stations) still play the edited version of "Brown-Eyed Girl" where they cut out the line "Making love in the green grass", so nothing really surprises me anymore.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited January 2011
    treitz3 wrote: »
    I don't get it. If you are going to be offended over that word, wouldn't being called **** be the same thing?

    One is a slur, one is just a term. Not saying I agree with teh censorship, I'm just saying... just like there's a difference between "THE N WORD" and calling someone "black."
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,006
    edited January 2011
    But you can call your ex GF a **** or **** .... in a song and that's ok
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,004
    edited January 2011
    You can call me cracker and a black guy can sing about the "n" word on the radio without being banned or edited, doesn't offend me. Who really cares? It's just a song.

    You remember that ol' saying...."Sticks and stones might break some bones but words will never hurt me"? Is anybody really that afraid of getting hurt by a song? What next? Grandma's across the land banning "Grandma got run over by a reindeer"?

    Politically Correct BS. Look it up on F1nut's signature. It's about a perfect definition.
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  • wayne3burk
    wayne3burk Posts: 939
    edited January 2011
    The writers of the song were British... as such it would have been more appropriate for them to use the word "poof" in place of the word that they did use.

    If the want to edit it to be non - offensive the could just edit in the word f*****r.

    and we could all still sing along

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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,726
    edited January 2011
    Nothing new really. I haven't heard the full version of the song on the radio here either. Even on their greatest hits album they have the edited version. In fact that's the only version I'd ever heard until a couple years back when I bought the Brothers In Arms SACD. I remember hearing the full version for the first time and thinking "Wait, wtf did he just say?". I wasn't offended, just taken back a bit because I'd never heard it before.
  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited January 2011
    I thought the offending word meant 'a bundle of sticks'....huh...silly me...

    More and more social thought to 'revisionism' these days - even revising Mark Twain's "Huckleberry Finn" by expunging the offensive 'n' word.

    Better hang on to all those LPs, CDs, and SACDs - if you stream your music from a central store it wouldn't surprise me that other material deemed 'offensive' will be subjected to 'revisionism'.

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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited January 2011
    The writers of the song were British... as such it would have been more appropriate for them to use the word "poof" in place of the word that they did use.

    maybe, but it wouldn't have kept with the cadence of the line. maybe "poofy"

    OH MY GOD, he said ****...

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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited January 2011
    treitz3 wrote: »
    You can call me cracker and a black guy can sing about the "n" word on the radio without being banned or edited, doesn't offend me. Who really cares? It's just a song.

    You remember that ol' saying...."Sticks and stones might break some bones but words will never hurt me"? Is anybody really that afraid of getting hurt by a song? What next? Grandma's across the land banning "Grandma got run over by a reindeer"?

    Politically Correct BS. Look it up on F1nut's signature. It's about a perfect definition.

    Doesnt' offend me either, and like I said I don't agree with the censorship; someone's offended by everything, it seems, and you can't just ban it because it offends someone. HOWEVER, that doesn't mean they don't have a right to be offended. And as a middle-aged white straight guy, maybe you're not exactly the best judge of how something like that might affect someone.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited January 2011
    Perfect example of why you should have physical media in your hands. Books included.
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited January 2011
    Doesn't it refer to a a person riding a really loud bike?
    See Southpark episode on same!
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,624
    edited January 2011
    I haven't ever heard the unedited version apparently, because I never knew the words existed in the song until today. In over the air versions, songs have things taken out all the time. I hear a lot of songs that are toned out or something to eliminate swearing or inappropriate material. Is this a hypersensitive thing for OTA programming? I don't necessarily think so, and that has nothing to do with my being ****.

    If any of you can say/think something so idiotic as "I didn't know the word **** could/would be offensive" you are a complete moron. Is that unclear?

    Being called **** isn't offensive any more than you being called straight is (if you REALLY need this explained to you, you're showing post by post how low your intelligence level is).

    There is not one way that any of you could ever call me **** where it wouldn't result in your **** being......beaten......(perhaps on the forum you'd get away with it, but you wouldn't consider it in person).
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  • ryanjoachim
    ryanjoachim Posts: 2,046
    edited January 2011
    Reminds me of whenever I watch movies replayed on cable.

    "What the hell are you doing?!"
    "Holy S@#t!"
    "You ****!"
    "'Bleep' damnit!"

    Any guess as to what word they find more "offensive" than curse words in that example?
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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 5,047
    edited January 2011
    Speaking of songs that may offend people, I keep hearing this song "808" on Georgia State College radio. What is the 8, the 0, and the 8 stand for?

    I believe the first 8 is 8 oz. of cush, and the 2nd 8 is the 8 cigarellos he buys from Noah at the Citgo...I may be wrong on the 8's, and what is the 0?
  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,624
    edited January 2011
    3 digits in songs are typically an area cod fad.......808 = hawaii
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited January 2011
    brettw22 wrote: »
    3 digits in songs are typically an area cod fad.......808 = hawaii

    Roland 808. It's this old school sampler that all the early rap artists used and you have to pay an arm & leg to get a hold of these days.
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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 5,047
    edited January 2011
    unc2701 wrote: »
    Roland 808. It's this old school sampler that all the early rap artists used and you have to pay an arm & leg to get a hold of these days.

    This makes sense, as there are a bunch of different sound effects sampled in the song as well. The song had no Hawaiian theme or references, so I'm going with the Roland 808. Thanks for clearing that up....
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,391
    edited January 2011
    Guess they will be changing the words to "Pin Ball Wizard" next. Wouldn't want to offend those deaf, dumb and blind kids out there...
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,494
    edited January 2011
    brettw22 wrote: »
    I haven't ever heard the unedited version apparently, because I never knew the words existed in the song until today. In over the air versions, songs have things taken out all the time. I hear a lot of songs that are toned out or something to eliminate swearing or inappropriate material. Is this a hypersensitive thing for OTA programming? I don't necessarily think so, and that has nothing to do with my being ****.

    If any of you can say/think something so idiotic as "I didn't know the word **** could/would be offensive" you are a complete moron. Is that unclear?

    Being called **** isn't offensive any more than you being called straight is (if you REALLY need this explained to you, you're showing post by post how low your intelligence level is).

    There is not one way that any of you could ever call me **** where it wouldn't result in your **** being......beaten......(perhaps on the forum you'd get away with it, but you wouldn't consider it in person).


    Brett, you need to learn how to let things like a word roll off your back.

    For example, juju called me a **** here on the forum. Big deal, I look at who said it, laugh and thank God that I'm not him.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,391
    edited January 2011
    F1nut wrote: »
    For example, juju called me a **** here on the forum. Big deal, I look at who said it, laugh and thank God that I'm not him.


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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited January 2011
    The unedited version of "Money For Nothing" gets played on my local classic rock station all the time....and I am in the San Francisco Bay Area! You'd think someone would've objected by now.
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited January 2011
    While the word is used in the song, the context in which it is used is sarcastic. The point being the "****" is doing better than the redneck who despises "****" rock stars who get their money for nothing, while the hard-working redneck gets nothing.

    Although I admit "the chicks for free" part does seem counter intuitive. To be honest, when I first looked at the article I thought it would be some women's group complaining about 'chicks'. :rolleyes:
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited January 2011
    BlueFox wrote: »
    While the word is used in the song, the context in which it is used is sarcastic. The point being the "****" is doing better than the redneck who despises "****" rock stars who get their money for nothing, while the hard-working redneck gets nothing.

    I was waiting for someone to point this out.
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  • YeorgoT
    YeorgoT Posts: 11
    edited January 2011
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited January 2011
    And up until about half-way through this thread I really thought somebody was offended by "get your chicks for free" and wanted to put a price-tag on them.
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited January 2011
    Now THAT was funny..
    While the word is used in the song, the context in which it is used is sarcastic. The point being the "****" is doing better than the redneck who despises "****" rock stars who get their money for nothing, while the hard-working redneck gets nothing.

    Ya think? Just goes to show you how assinine the whole thing is.
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