Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D) + Six More Shot Dead at Tucson, AZ Public Meeting

Tour2ma
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edited January 2011 in The Clubhouse
http://www.npr.org/2011/01/08/132764367/congresswoman-shot-in-arizona

How sad for our Republic...

I know there's little chance that this thread will not end up closed and/ or removed, but let's keep it adult for as long as possible...
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited January 2011
    just plain sad,,
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited January 2011
    wow,what a terrible thing to have happened...I feel for all the families
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited January 2011
    Now the word is that the Congresswoman is still alive and is in surgery...

    Thoughts and prayers people...
    More later,
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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 5,047
    edited January 2011
    Very sad indeed....
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  • Fongolio
    Fongolio Posts: 3,516
    edited January 2011
    It sounds like the gunman was barely old enough to vote. This is a sad sad story. I see no reason why this thread should be shut down, it's not political. It's about a sad and tragic event happening to a politician.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,391
    edited January 2011
    Tragic is not strong enough a word for this. Reprehensible also fails for me. This event rattles my nerves in ways that have not occured in a decade.

    This should be dealt with by means of a very public execution for the person responsible. My thoughts, hopes and prayers go out to the gentle Congresswoman, her family, friends, supporters and the people of the great state of Arizona.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited January 2011
    Truely sad, haven't heard anything on the gunman but the news I have say she was shot at point blank range. Obviously not random, more so she was targeted. Seeing her stance on border security and immagration reform, One can only speculate if some nutjob from Larazza or a mexican cartel had her in their sights. Regardless, we all pray she survives and continues to serve her people.
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  • Rivrrat
    Rivrrat Posts: 2,101
    edited January 2011
    I didn't vote for her, but this is just tragic. I'm sure everyone in the city is in shock over this like me.

    A sad day for Tucson.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,391
    edited January 2011
    The gunman is in custody... no details yet, but IF they are related in any way to the drug lords of Mexico, this should be treaded as an act of War, the cartels branded as terrorist oganization, and dealt with accordingly.
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  • indyhawg
    indyhawg Posts: 1,642
    edited January 2011
    That is very sad. Hope she recovers.
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  • newrival
    newrival Posts: 2,017
    edited January 2011
    Tour2ma wrote: »
    Now the word is that the Congresswoman is still alive and is in surgery...

    Thoughts and prayers people...

    +1

    how terrible.
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  • potee
    potee Posts: 610
    edited January 2011
    A very bad day indeed, I hate seeing the way some things are going in our wonderful country. Pleased that they have the idoit that did this
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  • blueboxer
    blueboxer Posts: 621
    edited January 2011
    The violence in Arizona is very unreported and discussed. Few people realize that it is the kidnapping capital of the country and hit squads funded from the Cartels operate regularly and openly at times. I have always supported the ability to purchase and bear arms for the protection of your home and family, it is sad to see others using to further their criminal or mental pursuits.
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  • ben62670
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    edited January 2011
    blueboxer wrote: »
    The violence in Arizona is very unreported and discussed. Few people realize that it is the kidnapping capital of the country and hit squads funded from the Cartels operate regularly and openly at times. I have always supported the ability to purchase and bear arms for the protection of your home and family, it is sad to see others using to further their criminal or mental pursuits.

    I read a few comments on how the weapons needed to be controlled. Do these idiots really think that this dirt bag wouldn't have been able to aquire one leagally? I would guess that he didn't aquire it leagally anyway.
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited January 2011
    damn, 9 year old girl died in this. listening live. didn't even know as i had no tv on or radio. this is right here in my city. i pretty much loath gabby giffords, but dang...

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  • Tour2ma
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    edited January 2011
    Fongolio wrote: »
    I see no reason why this thread should be shut down, it's not political.
    Still don't see the posibility? I said that based on past experience here hoping to give it a chance...

    C'mon folks... At least for a while let's stay away from speculating, from gun-rights, et al...


    Suspect in custody Jared Loughner of Tucson.

    Among the dead John M. Roll, the senior U.S. District judge in Arizona and a 9 year-old child...
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  • gdb
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    edited January 2011
    Everybody in AZ is packin, anyway, it seems that way! I saw a couple of old timers in Bisbee that were wearing "big iron" on their hip right out on the public streets. And.....no, they weren't re-enactors from up in Tombstone either.:eek:
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited January 2011
    I am glad to see a civilian had the balls to take down the shooter. The little girl thing is heart wrenchingly sad:(
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  • gsxr141
    gsxr141 Posts: 143
    edited January 2011
    what is wrong with people?
    this is terribly sad, and my prayers go out to the victims and their families.
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  • Face
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    edited January 2011
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    The gunman is in custody... no details yet, but IF they are related in any way to the drug lords of Mexico, this should be treaded as an act of War, the cartels branded as terrorist oganization, and dealt with accordingly.

    Not even close.
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    edited January 2011
    gdb wrote: »
    Everybody in AZ is packin, anyway, it seems that way! I saw a couple of old timers in Bisbee that were wearing "big iron" on their hip right out on the public streets. And.....no, they weren't re-enactors from up in Tombstone either.:eek:

    When you live in the wild you have to protect yourself.

    Such a sad situation with the shooting.
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  • nooshinjohn
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    edited January 2011
    That is why IF is in big bold letters... I will not take this thread into the ploitical realm, but with the border conditions these days and with the drug lords decapitating people just south of our borders, nothing is out of the realm of possibility. I stand by the comment, just glad it appears to be unrelated.
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  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited January 2011
    Sad situation. Typical Facebook posting for suicidal act. Feds have already locked his page down. I think he was a loner on this one.
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  • tonyb
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    edited January 2011
    The shooter so far appears to be a 22 year old white male with a grudge against government,according to his utube videos. Who knows,whackjobs exist everywhere. Hope this guy never steps foot out into public again.
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  • nooshinjohn
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    edited January 2011
    tonyb wrote: »
    The shooter so far appears to be a 22 year old white male with a grudge against government,according to his utube videos. Who knows,whackjobs exist everywhere. Hope this guy never steps foot out into public again.

    His favorite reading material was Mein Kamph and the Communist Manifesto. Says he was also going through MEPS (military enlistment) processing in Phoenix and he was offended that he was offered a bible to read.... His middle name is Lee.
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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 5,047
    edited January 2011
    From Yahoo:
    "His exact motivation was not immediately clear. Federal law enforcement officials were poring over captured versions of a MySpace page that belonged to Jared Loughner and over Youtube video published to the Internet weeks ago under an account "Classitup10" and linked to him. The MySpace page, which was removed within minutes of the gunman being identified by U.S. officials, included a mysterious "Goodbye friends" message published hours before the shooting and exhorted his friends to "Please don't be mad at me."

    In one of several Youtube videos, which featured text against a dark background, Loughner described inventing a new U.S. currency and complained about the illiteracy rate among people living in Giffords' congressional district in Arizona. Two spellings of his last name were given in the aftermath of the shooting — Loughner and Laughner.

    "I know who's listening: Government Officials, and the People," Loughner wrote. "Nearly all the people, who don't know this accurate information of a new currency, aren't aware of mind control and brainwash methods. If I have my civil rights, then this message wouldn't have happen (sic).""

    I'm sure neighbors will say we was a quite loner, but in recent weeks leading to the shooting start to act more and more irrationally. Then we will discover he went off his meds weeks before the shooting, had a troubled childhood, his parents will say they had no clue,and somehow obtained the gun despite a history of mental illness. We have heard this story too many times.
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  • Fongolio
    Fongolio Posts: 3,516
    edited January 2011
    This has NOTHING to do with "the wild west", or gun control, or the border situation. This is ALL about a total whack job who just totally f@&*ed up a bunch of people's lives and nothing else. God help the families and the survivors.
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  • BIZILL
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    edited January 2011
    this has EVERYTHING to do with gun control...or should i say it WILL in its aftermath.

    and this will be spinned to work against the tea party movement and conservativism in general. it shouldn't but it will. that much is obvious.

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,391
    edited January 2011
    BIZILL wrote: »
    this has EVERYTHING to do with gun control...or should i say it WILL in its aftermath.

    and this will be spinned to work against the tea party movement and conservativism in general. it shouldn't but it will. that much is obvious.

    Funny that the left will paint an anarchist left wing loon as a right-wing nut and get away with it.

    Gun law should be simple...

    commit crime with gun = 25years to life

    Injure with gun during a crime = life without parole for the first 25 years

    Kill with a gun during a crime = death sentence to be caried out 90 days from sentencing.
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    edited January 2011
    Tour2ma wrote: »
    Still don't see the posibility? I said that based on past experience here hoping to give it a chance...

    C'mon folks... At least for a while let's stay away from speculating, from gun-rights, et al...

    You were right....:rolleyes:
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