Polkenstein

brgman

Is this what you gus mean by the term polkenstein????

http://cgi.ebay.com/POLKAUDIO-SDA-2-SPEAKERS-TWEETERS-REPLACED-/270679831311?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item3f05c6730f
:eek:

heiney9

What a shame. Who in the hell re-cones a speaker with a rubber surround?

H9

dorokusai

heiney9 wrote: »

What a shame. Who in the hell re-cones a speaker with a rubber surround?

H9

You might look again.

heiney9

dorokusai wrote: »

You might look again.

???

The new MW drivers have a foam surround. My comment was why replace rubber (original surround) w/foam. Probably didn't word it clearly.

nooshinjohn

I threw up in my mouth a little.....

Those speakers are ruined.

dorokusai

heiney9 wrote: »

???

The new MW drivers have a foam surround. My comment was why replace rubber (original surround) w/foam. Probably didn't word it clearly.

That's what I meant....ugh, kids Check out the new tweeter seal? Look familiar?

smglbrth

Not to thread jack at all but the new MW's from Polk have foam surrounds? WTF? Those speakers are terrible in the link, however...

mmadden28

smglbrth wrote: »

Not to thread jack at all but the new MW's from Polk have foam surrounds? WTF?....

Are you stating this or asking?
None of my newer replacement drivers have foam--all rubber.

smglbrth

Asking about what Heiney9 stated. Maybe this statement was in a joking manner?

messiah

No, polk replacement drivers do not have foam surrounds. The guy took them to a shop where the shop put foam surrounds on the speakers. I hope that clears that up for you.

DarqueKnight

heiney9 wrote: »

What a shame. Who in the hell re-cones a speaker with a rubber surround?

Someone who prefers the look, feel and sound of foam.

Toolfan66

I don't belive the drivers are original with or without the foam..

This kinda tops the purple speaker guy..

raffi

Proof positive that truth really is stranger than fiction...but I'm not sure that it tops the purple speaker guy, too close to call IYAM. I wonder if he drove these with a Conrad-Johnson faceplated Adcom amp?

Audioquest

brgman wrote: »

Is this what you gus mean by the term polkenstein????

http://cgi.ebay.com/POLKAUDIO-SDA-2-SPEAKERS-TWEETERS-REPLACED-/270679831311?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item3f05c6730f
:eek:

The cab's look decent. For the price they might be worth it and pull them back from the abyss. Looks like the tweeter area is undamaged so it would just mean driver replacements ( and x-over rebuild) to get them back in shape.

Fongolio

Just because they are dramatically altered doesn't mean they sound bad. Until I hear them with my own ears who am I to judge? Would I alter a pair of SDA's like that? No. There are many real old schooler's that believe foam surrounds, although prone to disintigration, sound better than butyl rubber. As for the tweeters, I've never heard the replacements he's (or she"s) used. Maybe they make them sound like angels singing, and maybe they sound crap. I don't know. Perhaps overall they sound much better than my fully modded sda's.

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance."

—Albert Einstein

heiney9

Fongolio wrote: »

Just because they are dramatically altered doesn't mean they sound bad. Until I hear them with my own ears who am I to judge? Would I alter a pair of SDA's like that? No. There are many real old schooler's that believe foam surrounds, although prone to disintigration, sound better than butyl rubber. As for the tweeters, I've never heard the replacements he's (or she"s) used. Maybe they make them sound like angels singing, and maybe they sound crap. I don't know. Perhaps overall they sound much better than my fully modded sda's.

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance."

—Albert Einstein

Well then, put in your bid so you can prove us wrong :rolleyes:

H9

Joe08867

Fongolio wrote: »

Just because they are dramatically altered doesn't mean they sound bad. Until I hear them with my own ears who am I to judge? Would I alter a pair of SDA's like that? No. There are many real old schooler's that believe foam surrounds, although prone to disintigration, sound better than butyl rubber. As for the tweeters, I've never heard the replacements he's (or she"s) used. Maybe they make them sound like angels singing, and maybe they sound crap. I don't know. Perhaps overall they sound much better than my fully modded sda's.

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance."

—Albert Einstein

What? Really? Your defending this psycho?

OK then, go get them and prove that we are wrong.

Toolfan66

They are worth about $20 max IMO!!!!

OldmanSRS

Joe,
I agree with you. If you can get them cheap enough, listen to them and see what you think. You might have the rest of these guys mod'ing their surrounds next

Worst case, buy some new drivers and restore them to spec.

mmadden28

$20?? No way, the cabs are worth more than that. Most will buy a set and replace the tweeters and upgrade the XO components anyway. The Passives and the Drivers are really the only main things left alone. And drivers can be found cheap for these once in awhile.

Based on the ad the drivers were professionally reconed, so that means the basket and VC is original. Not sure how much the new cone and surround might affect the sound, but if nothing else it probably will get somebody by.

I don't see anything that is not reversible with these. If the price is right somebody can get a good deal and invest relatively little. Let's say somebody gets them for $150, they spend perhaps $120 on authentic used drivers and they have essentially the baseline they need to do the rest of the upgrades-so $270? Not bad. If they want to remain stock, SL2000s can be found pretty cheap as well. It doesn't appear that the guy cut the tweeter mount hole or anything crazy like that.

Fongolio

Joe08867 wrote: »

What? Really? Your defending this psycho?

OK then, go get them and prove that we are wrong.

I'm not defending anyone. I'm just not condemning. And if I thought I could get them for $20 I'd be on them like a fat kid on a smartie. Worst case replace all the drivers for Polks.

Toolfan66

mmadden28 wrote: »

$20?? No way, the cabs are worth more than that. Most will buy a set and replace the tweeters and upgrade the XO components anyway. The Passives and the Drivers are really the only main things left alone. And drivers can be found cheap for these once in awhile.

Based on the ad the drivers were professionally reconed, so that means the basket and VC is original. Not sure how much the new cone and surround might affect the sound, but if nothing else it probably will get somebody by.

I don't see anything that is not reversible with these. If the price is right somebody can get a good deal and invest relatively little. Let's say somebody gets them for $150, they spend perhaps $120 on authentic used drivers and they have essentially the baseline they need to do the rest of the upgrades-so $270? Not bad. If they want to remain stock, SL2000s can be found pretty cheap as well. It doesn't appear that the guy cut the tweeter mount hole or anything crazy like that.

I said IMO!!! They are not worth the money to mess with and I dont care what he says about the drivers, Have you looked at the dust caps on them??? I say the drivers are not POLK PERIOD!!! I would not spend more then $20 on them...

Toolfan66

The drivers look like something Madonna would wear or better yet they kinda look like the eyes of Bender from Futurama..

Fongolio

LOL! Ok I admit there is a resemblance to Bender.

nadams

Woof... and I don't mean from the woofers...

The real question is why did they have to be reCONED, much less re.... rubbered? And replacement tweeters???? These things have lead a rough life, no matter how the cabinets look.

Systems

Just FYI, the Vifa D19TD is the same 3/4" tweeter used in the Paradigm Atoms.

dorokusai

They were already blown or most were lackluster....and he sent them to get reconed, of which they did in foam. The most probable answer and honestly the most cost effective solution.

Foam isn't evil and depending on the loudspeaker.....well, it could change a lot of things in regards to actual sound...blah blah.

I wouldn't do anything on a known loudspeaker without knowing some loose parameters.

mmadden28

TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »

I said IMO!!! They are not worth the money to mess with and I dont care what he says about the drivers, Have you looked at the dust caps on them??? I say the drivers are not POLK PERIOD!!! I would not spend more then $20 on them...

The dust caps do need to be replaced if they are being reconed, so I would expect them to look different. Of course they do look odd because they are so big. Besides it doesn't matter if they are real drivers or not, the drivers can be replaced with the real thing.

kawizx9r

Something I've always read that maybe some of you can agree with, switching to different surrounds IE rubber to foam/vice versa will change the characteristics of the driver in regards to how it plays/etc.

Least he didn't mess with the passive radiator! I'd love to get the cabinets, then what..put in $220 to get 4 new mid-bass drivers+2 tweeters?

geoff727

Fongolio wrote: »

Perhaps overall they sound much better than my fully modded sda's.

Ooooo, ouch. Kelvin, you're killin' me! haha

Fongolio wrote: »

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance."

—Albert Einstein

I guess I better stop condemning so many things. Trouble is, after I investigate, the condemnation usually gets worse! :rolleyes:

Fongolio

Well Geoff, they'd have to sound pretty amazing to sound better than the 1C's. What I forgot to add to that comment was "and perhaps blue monkeys will fly out of my a$$!" but now I did.

Happy holidays and Merry Christmas to you Geoff!!