I am going to do it...

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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    edited November 2010
    never know why VMPS uses a 12 and a 15 in the same box with a 15 passive.

    Why not use dual 15s with the 18" PR for your monster?
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,741
    edited November 2010
    I planned to stick with the 12/15 combo because of what you mentioned - garunteed results.

    The only reason I planned to use an 18" PR is because I thought I remembered that the PR should be equal to the active drivers - in which case an 18" PR is far more adequate than a 15" and it allows for an additional 2hz lower FR with all the mass...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,741
    edited November 2010
    I just ran some test tones...

    And at reference level on tone 16.8hz I could still feel the floor move like a swimming pool with the stock woofers... and the TC Sounds PR that I added...

    So if I cant hit those notes with that force with those drivers - the TC Sounds drivers should dig will below 16hz..
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,741
    edited November 2010
    Oh yeah I think VMPS uses the 12" because he advertises they work real well at higher octaves (upwards of 220hz) and I think a 15" would have a hard time with that
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,092
    edited November 2010
    Call it the "Largest" instead of Larger...
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,741
    edited November 2010
    Hmm Largest eh..

    SID - The Largest

    Keep em coming
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,741
    edited November 2010
    Or how about "Epic 45" (12+15+18)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    edited November 2010
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    I planned to stick with the 12/15 combo because of what you mentioned - garunteed results.

    I am from Georgia, but "garunteed" is not what I said lol
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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  • edbert
    edbert Posts: 1,041
    edited November 2010
    R.H.S.C.

    Red Headed Step Child

    I have a feeling you will be beating on it like it is one anyway and it should have a fiery personality!
    I know just enough to be dangerous, but don't tell my wife, she thinks I'm a genius. :D

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    Monitor 30's - surrounds
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    Here's my stuff.
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  • thejck
    thejck Posts: 849
    edited November 2010
    what are you using for the power amps?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,741
    edited November 2010
    Dual Crown XLS1000 (1,100 watts bridged at 4 ohms)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,133
    edited November 2010
    Wait a minute......you talked with EarlyB?
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,741
    edited November 2010
    Yeah he posts on the Audiocircle forums...

    I saw he was one of the first to upgrade his sub and that he blew the PR

    I shot him a message to light that PR on fire and get the TC Sounds PR

    THE BUILD STARTS TOMORROW!!!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,741
    edited November 2010
    ALRIGHT!

    All drivers have been ordered along with 50 ft of gasket tape and a two speaker terminal plate...

    I already have some heavy duty insulated binding post I can use...

    Hopefully enclosure construction will commence tomorrow!!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,741
    edited November 2010
    Hmmmmm

    I decided I am going to build the enclosure out of Birch Plywood instead of MDF - should allow for a far stronger cabinet.... Infact, no MDF anywhere will be used on this
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,741
    edited December 2010
    15" and 18" arrived today - 12" is backordered

    Hopefully I can start this project next Tuesday weather permitting
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,741
    edited December 2010
    Well this kind of sucks - TC Sounds did not include the screws to put the magnet onto the basket hahahha
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited December 2010
    It's a two piece woofer?
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,741
    edited December 2010
    Yeah they ship the magnet in a separate box than the basket
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited December 2010
    Hey Trey,

    Does VMPS sell consumer direct? Can I call them up and tell them I want a Larger sub with TC Sound woofers?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,741
    edited December 2010
    Yes.

    I think he is selling the Larger (passive) for 1499.99 with TC Sounds woofers...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • greyford1979
    greyford1979 Posts: 749
    edited December 2010
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    Hmmmmm

    I decided I am going to build the enclosure out of Birch Plywood instead of MDF - should allow for a far stronger cabinet.... Infact, no MDF anywhere will be used on this

    And you don't have to worry about the toxic dust that acompanies working with mdf:tongue: lol
    I love animals, they're delicious!
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited December 2010
    You mean Baltic Birch? 13 ply, 18mm.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,741
    edited December 2010
    Unfortunately Baltic Birch is out of my price range.

    I think I am going to do MDF in the first layer and plywood on the outside.

    I was going to start this today but it was SNOWING today hahah jeeeez
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,741
    edited December 2010
    Here is the pic of the 15"

    Totally unusable since I do not have those bolts lol
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited December 2010
    "Brown Stain MkI"
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited December 2010
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    Here is the pic of the 15"

    Totally unusable since I do not have those bolts lol

    Man, that's a serious looking driver:biggrin:
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited December 2010
    I spoke to John Casler from VMPS today in an email. He said:
    Yes some of the subs are available in what we call the OMG Series.

    This includes adding one or more TC SOUNDS drivers and the BIG BUMP Passive Radiator.

    While we offer this on the LARGER the best implementation is in the VSS due to is SOLID cabinet.

    The VSS stands for VERY SOLID SUB and it has 1.5" walls with a 2" Front Baffle.

    While we can also build you an OMG LARGER with a 12" and 15" TC driver set, the VSS will actually perform better due to the weight, strength, and rigidity of the VSS cabinet.

    The OMG VSS would look like this:

    OMG VSS = $1999

    Your price = $1799 plus shipping.

    OMG LARGER w/both 12" and 15" TC Woofers = $1449

    Your price = $1229 plus shipping

    The SUB amp we offer is 1000w and lists for $549.

    Your price = $399 plus shipping with sub purchase.

    The amp has an input to use the on board Low Pass Filter and Single Band Equalizer if you like, as well, it has an input to By-Pass everything except the gain control, if you are using some other LP Filter. (although I have never heard of a DAC having a X-Over in it???)

    Nothing close in SUB AMPS in the price range.

    The VSS looks awesome. I think I may go for either one of those or two OMG 215 subs. I am waiting on a price quote and recommendation from VMPS regarding a stereo pair of 215 subs. What do you guys think?

    Thanks,

    Mike
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,741
    edited December 2010
    Mike
    Do yourself a favor and opt for them to mod it with a TC Sounds PR.

    That "Big Bump" PR is a PIECE OF ****. The Active woofer moves over 3" linear. The PR moves half that. Basic math will tell you that that is a no go.

    Nuff said.

    But yeah the Larger enclosure is not capable to handle the TC Sounds woofers - hence my project.

    But get the PR!!! TRUST ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Please note their 1000 watt amp is the Parts Express Dayton...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,741
    edited December 2010
    Also,
    I know for a fact the VMPS in its original form (lesser drivers) are extremely musical subs.

    I have never heard the TC Sounds. My primary use will be HT which they should rock at.

    Just a FWIW. Not to mention for music they would be absolutely overkill
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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