Going to give Epik a shot

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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited November 2010
    Trey, I've had several of the SVS subs and I don't think you start hearing the texture of the music or movie until you spend a grand. But, who knows. Their sealed box subs may be better.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,028
    edited November 2010
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    I thought vmps was a very musical sub?
    It is. It is damn near perfect when coupled with an SMS-1.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • Nhpm510
    Nhpm510 Posts: 138
    edited November 2010
    +1 for epik legend.
    I am not much of a believer in burn-in, but by day 3 it seemed to come alive.
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited November 2010
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    Trey, I've had several of the SVS subs and I don't think you start hearing the texture of the music or movie until you spend a grand. But, who knows. Their sealed box subs may be better.

    Agreed, the Ultra-13 is great sub for Movie. I think if used with the SVS
    AS-EQ1 sub EQ it can be good Music sub also.
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited November 2010
    I've heard the Antimode 8033 in use. It is a superb subwoofer EQ. Really, I can't imagine having a sub in my 2-channel system without this thing.

    http://www.dspeaker.com/
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited November 2010
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    I've heard the Antimode 8033 in use. It is a superb subwoofer EQ. Really, I can't imagine having a sub in my 2-channel system without this thing.

    http://www.dspeaker.com/

    Thanks,that looks like a sweet piece!
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • Nhpm510
    Nhpm510 Posts: 138
    edited November 2010
    Any idea how it is different than say what's on my receiver now? (odyssey)
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited November 2010
    Are you asking if Odyssey is better than a receiver? It depends, likely yes, especially for the money.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited November 2010
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    I've heard the Antimode 8033 in use. It is a superb subwoofer EQ. Really, I can't imagine having a sub in my 2-channel system without this thing.

    http://www.dspeaker.com/

    True dat!!!! I just added on to my system, now my dual Velo's are performing like I never heard them before. Simple to use & priced right. Highly recommended for both HT & two channel.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    Does anyone know if you use the LFE and the crossover inputs on this sub if it will actually use both simultaneously or cancel the other out?

    I am stuck at work pondering this thing and will test it when I get home with two different sources...

    Thanks
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,028
    edited November 2010
    Nhpm510 wrote: »
    Any idea how it is different than say what's on my receiver now? (odyssey)
    Are you talking about Audessy (Not so sure about the spelling on that) [Auto EQ on an AVR] or Odyssey [Amplifier/Preamplifier]? The two are completely different things.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    As far the Ultra goes - If I am going to spend 1,500 bucks it will be another VMPS larger loaded with the TC Sound woofers -- the Ultra would not stand a chance against that behemoth...

    I refuse to use EQs...

    I dont know if this will work. If it does not work and I decide not to keep the Epik - Ill take that money and do something else with it - not sure. I honestly just do not want a SVS subwoofer.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    Tom how are you liking the Tylers?
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited November 2010
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    As far the Ultra goes - If I am going to spend 1,500 bucks it will be another VMPS larger loaded with the TC Sound woofers -- the Ultra would not stand a chance against that behemoth...

    I refuse to use EQs...

    I dont know if this will work. If it does not work and I decide not to keep the Epik - Ill take that money and do something else with it - not sure. I honestly just do not want a SVS subwoofer.

    If it's in your budget, the JL Audio F113 is Excellent on Music and Very
    good on Movies. No need for a EQ with the JL.
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited November 2010
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    As far the Ultra goes - If I am going to spend 1,500 bucks it will be another VMPS larger loaded with the TC Sound woofers -- the Ultra would not stand a chance against that behemoth...

    I refuse to use EQs...

    I dont know if this will work. If it does not work and I decide not to keep the Epik - Ill take that money and do something else with it - not sure. I honestly just do not want a SVS subwoofer.



    I'd like to see that shootout.

    Ultra vs VMPS
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,081
    edited November 2010
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    I refuse to use EQs...

    Just curious...Why?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    Im a purest, I dont like s@#t in the chain.

    EQs are for systems that dont sound good out of the box. IMO.

    The Larger with TC Sounds woofers (2,000 watts continuous, 8,000 peak) - 11hz tuning, 12" and 15" capable of 3.5" of excursion with a PR that moves 3.5" -- the Ultra would not stand a chance...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited November 2010
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    Im a purest, I dont like s@#t in the chain.

    EQs are for systems that dont sound good out of the box. IMO.

    The Larger with TC Sounds woofers (2,000 watts continuous, 8,000 peak) - 11hz tuning, 12" and 15" capable of 3.5" of excursion with a PR that moves 3.5" -- the Ultra would not stand a chance...

    You can only take things so far unless you have a perfect room...which doesn't exist. The EQ will get you closer.

    Hmmmmm...I see you're a purist & don't like s@#t in the chain, yet you have MIT cables throughout adding **** with those magic black boxes. Unless of course there's nothing in them. Hmmmmm, interesting!! :wink:
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    MIT is different - its a passive component that makes it sound better...

    EQs are pure noise and are another connection between my pre and amp.

    I like to keep it simple.

    Now I could see connecting it only to the sub - in which case I would have no issues, I just dont understand how it would properly blend to the mains.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    Well I was able to use the LFE and Crossover input at the same time - so these FMOD xovers should work and it should be easy to blend after that... I hope...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    Well I have been thinking about this all day...

    I am sending this subwoofer back and canceling my FMOD order.

    After thinking about how I could make it work - I realized that this is just retarded...

    I do not understand why they did this.

    Either way - I wish Epik the best of the luck, but dollar for dollar - their features are horrible.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited November 2010
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    MIT is different - its a passive component that makes it sound better...

    EQs are pure noise and are another connection between my pre and amp.

    I like to keep it simple.

    Now I could see connecting it only to the sub - in which case I would have no issues, I just dont understand how it would properly blend to the mains.

    Passive or not it's still another kink in the chain...but if you like it...that's cool.

    Read up on different EQ units out there, I think you'll be pleasantly suprised what you find. I just added on of these guys & it's phenominal!!

    What you thought was good bass will became "INCREDIBLE" bass!
    http://www.dspeaker.com/en/home.shtml
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    Hmmm - I may look into it for my HT subwoofer ---

    MIT cables are one of the best investments I have made so far...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    Oh yeah - forgot to mention that Epik inflates their shipping charges or they need to work out a far better deal with their carriers....

    63 bucks to ship this bad boy. Not to mention there is no way it weighs 80 pounds.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited November 2010
    Dang! It's a shame you've had such bad luck with your Epic purchase. From your previous posts it sounded like you were pretty excited. At least you gave it a shot & have 1st hand experience in the matter. Your new project looks promising!! Good luck with it.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,028
    edited November 2010
    Trey, you should look into it for your 2-channel rig as well. The VMPS never did sound quite right until I hooked the mains and the sub to the Velodyne SMS-1. What it does is it takes the mains and seamlessly blends it to the sub and then both to the room. Until this is done, you are not realizing the potential of what a sub can really do for you in a 2-channel rig. It really does make an amazing difference when it comes to the lower registers.

    If you would like, I'll let you borrow my SMS-1 for a stint and that way you'll know first hand what it can do. Call me when you get up or get back home and we'll discuss it and what you PM'd me about.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited November 2010
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    Does anyone know if you use the LFE and the crossover inputs on this sub if it will actually use both simultaneously or cancel the other out?

    I am stuck at work pondering this thing and will test it when I get home with two different sources...

    Thanks
    LFE disables the crossover on the sub in lieu of the xover on the AVR or pre. The input labelled crossover enables the onboard crossover.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    Just to let everyone know...

    Epik charged me 63.00 dollars to ship this subwoofer to me..

    I can ship it back to them for a whopping 24.35

    The subwoofer only weighs 65 pounds boxed up versus the 80 they claim.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited November 2010
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    Just to let everyone know...

    Epik charged me 63.00 dollars to ship this subwoofer to me..

    I can ship it back to them for a whopping 24.35

    The subwoofer only weighs 65 pounds boxed up versus the 80 they claim.

    The remaining charge was for handling, hence the term shipping & handling. I kid you bro. I heard good things about Epik. So what's next?
    Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!

    Home Theater Pics in the Showcase :cool:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showcase/view.php?userid=73580
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    No sub in the 2 channel - atleast not for a while.

    I dont think there is a sub that can produce the bass I want in the price I want to spend for it.

    The Super Towers have such tone and texture in the bass and are extending down to 30hz with the mods - I dont really feel a need for a sub except 30hz to 20hz and there is so little material in that range... ya know?
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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