Going to give Epik a shot

VR3
VR3 Posts: 28,641
edited December 2010 in Subwoofer Hookup & Bass Management
I ordered the Legend ---

I figure I will give the lil guy a shot

It will be for music only
- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited November 2010
    I think you'll be very happy. I've heard nothing but great things about their subs.
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  • dcmartinpc
    dcmartinpc Posts: 844
    edited November 2010
    I have a sentinel, and I am getting a second from Leroy here! You will love that sub. Epik makes some great units!

    Don
    Living Room: Adcom GFP-750 (Upgraded), Squeezebox Touch, Oppo BDP-83, Pioneer DV-79AVi, Parasound HCA-3500 (Upgraded), SDA SRS 2 P/B (Gimpod, Sonicaps, & Mills)

    Theater: Denon 4311ci, Oppo BDP-93, Parasound HCA-2205+HCA-2200II, Polk LSi9, LSiC, LSiFX, LSi7, Custom 18" TC Sounds sub with 2 18" PR, Sharp XV-Z12000, Pioneer Kuro KRP-500M (isf Enabled)

    Bedroom: HK AVR354, Pioneer DV-47a, Parasound HCA-1500a, Polk LSi9
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    It has some steep competition from the Tylers as far as accuracy, texture, control -- so we shall see how this unfolds
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited November 2010
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    It has some steep competition from the Tylers as far as accuracy, texture, control -- so we shall see how this unfolds


    Just remember it's a $499 sub.:smile:
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    I know that is what intrigues me about it.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • math wizard
    math wizard Posts: 106
    edited November 2010
    Go for it. I have an Epik Knight which was purchased new for $599. Don't let the low price fool you.
    Processor - Emotiva UMC-200
    Pre-Amp (2 Ch) - Emotiva USP-1
    DSP Minidsp nanoAVR DL
    DAC (2 Ch) - Emotiva XDA-2
    Amp (Fronts) - Emotiva XPA-2
    Amp (Center/Surrounds) - Emotiva XPA-3
    CD - Emotiva ERC-1
    Fronts - Polk Audio RTi 12
    Center - Polk Audio CSi5
    Rears - Polk Audio RTiA1
    Sub - Epik Knight
    Sub EQ - Velodyne SMS-1
    Monitor - Sony XBR65X850C
    Blu-Ray - OPPO BDP-203
    Network Media Player - Chromecast Ultra
    Power Conditioner - APC H15
    Power Conditioner - Emotiva CMX-2
    PVR - DirecTV C61k
    Remote - Harmony Touch w/Hub
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    Will be here Wednesday
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited November 2010
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    Will be here Wednesday

    That's good... it probably would have been nest Monday if not Wednesday.

    Let us know how it works out; I'm on the fence about getting one, and I would also be using it only for music.
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

    Living Room: PC > Marantz AV-7703 > Emotiva XPA-5 > Sonus Faber Liuto Towers, Sonus Faber Liuto Center, Sonus Faber Liuto Bookshelves > Dual SVS PC12-Pluses

    Office: Phone/Tablet > AudioEngine B1 > McIntosh D100 > Bryston 4B-ST > Polk Audio LSiM-703's
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  • sandworms
    sandworms Posts: 1,043
    edited November 2010
    I am also curious about how you like the legend, I am considering it for my 2100+ cf living room
    Samsung pn64f8500
    Sonus faber venere 2.5
    Sf venere center
    Oppo 105d
    Squeezebox touch
    Parasound hca1500a
    Apc power filter
    Audioquest cables asst
    Polk rtia3 SB
    Polk fxia6 sl,sr
    Dual hsu vtf3 mk3

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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited November 2010
    Any updates?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    At Fedex till the morning
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited November 2010
    good luck with Epik Legend Subwoofer dual 12″ drivers
    no cabinet vibration in a sub seems interesting if their claims are right.
    you may also want to get the Epik Subwoofers Tees to match they
    now also have available.
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  • Ern Dog
    Ern Dog Posts: 2,237
    edited November 2010
    I'm interested in hearing how it stacks up against your dual Tyler Acoustics subs and your vpms.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited November 2010
    Finally! I've been waiting for someone with an ear I trust to pickup one of these subs. No offense to anyone else, but I cannot wait for our review Trey.

    Later,

    Mike
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    haha - I appreciate the compliment...

    I already have a beef with it - the 50hz crossover is limiting like no ones business...

    Either way other than it may be a **** to blend -

    I will know more on sound, build, etc tonight.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    Ok - I know this damn thing is 499 but why the hell cant they put a LEFT and RIGHT input as well as LFE.

    What a crock-o-****
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    I seriously am not very happy. Doing a quick run over Epik's subwoofer line up - not a single friggin sub has RIGHT AND LEFT inputs.

    I can not short the outputs of my preamp together either to bring it one - I tried. No go.

    I did run one in the crossover and one in the LFE and that did not negatively effect my preamp at all..

    So I am thinking about picking up this -

    http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=266-250&source=googleps

    I plan on keeping it crossed at 50 -
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    Ok - now that I am over this stupid design - Id like to comment this sub is the least music friendly subwoofer I have ever owned and does not look like the Empire has fixed the issue at all.

    50 hz crossover? Please. There happens to be some speakers out there that still have balls below 50hz and a subwoofer is not needed until 40-30hz

    One input for the crossover? W-T-F

    GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRr

    Ok - I am done bitching... Ill come back to this thread on Wednesday when these in line crossovers get here.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited November 2010
    What about HT?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    Really thinking I should have went with SVS for 50 more ---

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    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    I wont be using it for HT.. sorry..

    My VMPS could eat this sub for breakfast.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited November 2010
    I thought vmps was a very musical sub?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    My system is weird... It is divided into two systems but at the same time being one system.

    Goes like this...

    CDP > Preamp > Amp > Speakers - so if I want to run a sub in this system I have to run on the second outs on the Preamp...

    On the HT side of things...

    It goes Source > Receiver > Preamp (For mains) > Amp (For surrounds/center skip previous step) > Speakers - so the sub (VMPS) just runs on the LFE out....

    The reason why I ultimately do not want to run the VMPS in the 2 channel rig is just the inability to tweak and move it. The Epik is small by comparison and relatively light weight (40 lbs vs. 140 lbs) - it is inexpensive and should provide me with the extension I need - but the problem with it may be the xover point is so high that I wont be able to blend it without a huge 50-40hz bump...

    Either way, I more so wanted to see what Epik was all about and from a features stand point so far they SUCK.

    Sound I dont know because the features suck so bad I cant even plug it up.

    If the FMODs dont work - Ill return it and get the SVS which has a 30hz variable filter, right and left INS and OUTS! (GET OUT OF HERE!!!)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Ern Dog
    Ern Dog Posts: 2,237
    edited November 2010
    Shoot, why not keep your dual Tyler subs? Moving from those to the Epik seems like a downgrade.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    Money one --- but the Crossover mods fixed the initial reason why I got the Tyler Subs...

    I was going to rock no subs for a while but when I realized what I was missing down deep I figured I would search for a cheap alternative.

    The Tyler subs are already sold - but I am not sure I would keep them at this point as I am just ready to try different subs, I like messing around with subs.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    I will say this - from running one input the Epik has alot more tone than the SVS I had previously - so I think if the FMODs can do their thing, this sub may work for the purpose I am needing...

    Shall see - Ill post more when I can hook it up properly...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited November 2010
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    I will say this - from running one input the Epik has alot more tone than the SVS I had previously - so I think if the FMODs can do their thing, this sub may work for the purpose I am needing...

    Shall see - Ill post more when I can hook it up properly...

    Which SVS sub did you have? I hear that the Martin Logan subwoofers
    are good for 2ch music. I too, run both a 2ch and HT system together.
    I use a M&K dual 8in driver sub for 2ch music, and the SVS Ultra-13 for
    HT.
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,081
    edited November 2010
    Trey, I think you should build a sub to match your needs!
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited November 2010
    Trey, I knew you've been eying these: http://madisound.com/store/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=183&products_id=8535

    And the matching PR: https://www.madisound.com/store/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=183&products_id=8867

    PR, ported, and sealed application notes here: https://www.madisound.com/store/manuals/L26ROY_Application_Note.pdf
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,641
    edited November 2010
    I had the PCi 25-31. My Dad had the old Ultra - lots of rumble but no tone or texture...

    My budget if I am going to make a sub work will be around 500 - looks like that will be hard to do.. lol
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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