Stolen Goods in Flea Market?

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,736
    edited November 2010
    Sorry about my post #4... I thought the thread was about a flea market not the site's "Fleamarket". Total foul-up on my part.
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  • audio_alan
    audio_alan Posts: 770
    edited November 2010
    TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »
    I VOTE FOR A PERMANANT BAN!!!!

    Stolen or not,This is nothing more then spam and he has no intrest in being part of the Fourm!!!

    I couldn't agree more. Let this guy peddle his non-audio related, non-Polk related, NIB items elsewhere. He is adding nothing to the community...
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,212
    edited November 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    We have other members here who make things and sell them, using Polk for free advertising. Why not jump on them?



    You really find that to be the same thing???:rolleyes:
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  • audio_alan
    audio_alan Posts: 770
    edited November 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    We have other members here who make things and sell them, using Polk for free advertising. Why not jump on them?

    If the item the members are making are audio/video related, and the member is an active contributor, I see them as two completely different things. The guy that I assume everyone is talking about is just selling random stuff and making no other contributions. Big difference.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited November 2010
    cokewithvanilla wrote: »
    Hah.

    It's the price you pay when you buy used. I bought a TV a few years back at a pretty darn good deal... I can't say for certain if it is stolen (and don't much care), I just don't think I'll ever call about the warranty.Unfortunately, I've never seen a public registry of stolen items by serial number. I don't even know if they have one for guns. Buyer beware, and all that.
    Humm, that may be bad Karma on you with such an attitude... Just put it this way, how would you feel about someone here buying some gear from a thief that stole it from you? Personally, my motto is kind of easy, "Don't do to others what you do not want done to you". If anything comes my way that is remotely suspicious, I will not buy it, I'll let the crook sell it to another crook (hoping they both get caught) :wink:
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  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
    edited November 2010
    Well, I guess I see it this way, if I have something stolen... It will likely be sold, nothing I can do about it. I will probably never find it. I cannot expect the buyer to be able to know, beyond a doubt, that it was stolen. If something is completely obviously stolen (engraved or something), I probably won't deal with it.. but what are the signs of theft? Low price? is that enough to assume theft? I put the fault on the seller, not the buyer, unless the buyer is aware it is stolen, as in, was told.

    Like I said, it's too bad there isn't a federal theft registry or something....
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited November 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    We have other members here who make things and sell them, using Polk for free advertising. Why not jump on them?
    AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »
    Those curcumstances are completely different and you know it.

    Those are guys who have built a reputation and who participate outside of the fleam market regularly.

    We're talking about a guy who really only shows up to sell stuff...
    If you notice some of Polk's comments in that regard it seems like those folks were also cleared by Polk and the members. Tweaks and mods that some Polkie enjoy to own but rather not spend the time to do them selves will actually feel the Polkie that sells them the tweak is actually a great forum contributor for this. I would suggest/recommend before you turn this around that you first check how Polk and the forum members feel about it. There are also some outside business that were invited to sell their products here but the keyword is invited rather than done in a sneaky way :wink:
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  • opus
    opus Posts: 1,252
    edited November 2010
    Good catch Demi, thanks for bringing it up
    The Flea rig
    Hitachi 50VG825 LCD
    Rotel RSP 1066 (pre) :)-flea market
    B&K St-202 (mains)-flea market
    Carver M 200t (x2) (center and surrounds)-flea market
    Blu-Ray..PS3 (dvd player)
    Polk RTA-11t-flea market
    LsiC, Fxi30's
    Dual SVS PC-Utra's (1 port blocked) thanks MikeC78
    Behringer Feedback Destroyer    -flea market
    AudioAlchemy DDE v1.0 DAC-flea market
    Cambridge Audio Azur 640 CDP-flea market
    Signal Cable and Kimber Kable
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited November 2010
    It seems to me that it should not be questioned with no proof in hand.
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,773
    edited November 2010
    TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »
    You really find that to be the same thing???:rolleyes:

    No I don't. The items he is selling actually do something, and we don't know that they are stolen.
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  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited November 2010
    madmax wrote: »
    It seems to me that it should not be questioned with no proof in hand.

    +1

    Honestly, instead of creating a thread on this why not ask the person/people in question?

    I PMed said-member since I did have my doubts but it was cleared up. Not sure why some of you don't do the same?

    Don't hide behind a computer, just my .02

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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited November 2010
    Good thing about it is we can pick and choose whom we buy from.
    Polk Audio Surround Bar 360
    Mirage PS-12
    LG BDP-550
    Motorola HD FIOS DVR
    Panasonic 42" Plasma
    XBOX 360[/SIZE]

    Office stuff

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  • polrbehr
    polrbehr Posts: 2,830
    edited November 2010
    kawizx9r wrote: »
    +1

    Honestly, instead of creating a thread on this why not ask the person/people in question?

    I PMed said-member since I did have my doubts but it was cleared up. Not sure why some of you don't do the same?

    -Freddy

    Now there's an idea :rolleyes:
    So, are you willing to put forth a little effort or are you happy sitting in your skeptical poo pile?


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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited November 2010
    I've completed 235 stolen merchandise transactions here, I thought it was ok?
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • Big Dawg
    Big Dawg Posts: 2,005
    edited November 2010
    dorokusai wrote: »
    I've completed 235 stolen merchandise transactions here, I thought it was ok?

    So how come your members sales rating is only around 50?
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited November 2010
    Big Dawg wrote: »
    So how come your members sales rating is only around 50?

    Dude, are you new to buying hot merchandise? No paper trail.... Cash only, no returns. :biggrin: :tongue:
    Ludicrous gibs!
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited November 2010
    Big Dawg wrote: »
    So how come your members sales rating is only around 50?

    Click the number Dawg.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • Big Dawg
    Big Dawg Posts: 2,005
    edited November 2010
    dorokusai wrote: »
    Click the number Dawg.

    That makes me feel so sleazy.
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited November 2010
    It's Not the Size That Counts,
    But How You Measure It,,,,,,,
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  • starkiller
    starkiller Posts: 2,723
    edited November 2010
    That's right, if what is being sold weighs the same as a duck then......:biggrin:
    Computer room Hegeman 1 SpeakersM&K VX-80 subKenwood DP-7010Cambridge Audio CXC Transport Rega DACPrimaLuna Prologue Four AmpAric Audio Tube PreampGarage Jennings Research SquareCustom tube preampCrown XLS-1000Denon DCD-1500II Modded MSB Link DAC
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited November 2010
    madmax wrote: »
    It seems to me that it should not be questioned with no proof in hand.

    That doesn't make any sense to me. We were all blessed with brains of varying ability.

    What is in hand is evidence of the empirical variety. Furthermore, the purpose of the thread was to make people aware of the potential, not accuse anyone, hence no names and no links. This isn't dedicated to just one seller in particular, either. I have had contact with a couple of people and things are anything but clear, which is why I thought a thread putting this out there was in order.

    If anyone wants to start dredging up names and making accusations in this thread, that's not really my problem. It wasn't my purpose, either. I just want to make sure others are on the look out for one another.

    To me, the Flea Market doesn't exist for random people on the net to get the minimum number of posts and routinely post sales without bothering to participate in the rest of the forum in any capacity. That's just my interpretation of it, though, there's certainly no rule against it.

    As the idiom goes, a fool and his money are soon parted. I hope nobody gets screwed.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited November 2010
    Big Dawg wrote: »
    That makes me feel so sleazy.
    Yeah but what Doro doesn't mentions is that he beggs, threathens and twist harms and leggs to get those positive feed backs (there are evidences on this site that proves he is guilty of the above) :biggrin::tongue:
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited November 2010
    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    Yeah but what Doro doesn't mentions is that he beggs, threathens and twist harms and leggs to get those positive feed backs (there are evidences on this site that proves he is guilty of the above) :biggrin::tongue:

    True.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited November 2010
    In Ben(Ben8675309) and Larry's(TOOLFORLIFEFAN) defense, they both contacted myself prior to sales in the FM and I submitted it to Polk Audio. They didn't do anything without permission. They have some handshake restrictions and have been monitored since then.

    It's side work for these guys and if it turned into a business, that's different. If it turns out any member is running their business thru our FM?.....G O N E.

    If you have issues, please contact me via PM and I'll forward them up the chain.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited November 2010
    Demiurge wrote: »
    That doesn't make any sense to me. We were all blessed with brains of varying ability.

    What is in hand is evidence of the empirical variety. Furthermore, the purpose of the thread was to make people aware of the potential, not accuse anyone, hence no names and no links. This isn't dedicated to just one seller in particular, either. I have had contact with a couple of people and things are anything but clear, which is why I thought a thread putting this out there was in order.

    If anyone wants to start dredging up names and making accusations in this thread, that's not really my problem. It wasn't my purpose, either. I just want to make sure others are on the look out for one another.

    To me, the Flea Market doesn't exist for random people on the net to get the minimum number of posts and routinely post sales without bothering to participate in the rest of the forum in any capacity. That's just my interpretation of it, though, there's certainly no rule against it.

    As the idiom goes, a fool and his money are soon parted. I hope nobody gets screwed.
    Maybe some that was omitted when the post count from 25 up to 100 in order to be allowed to add some in the FS is that post count shouldn't be active on that forum?
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,601
    edited November 2010
    Maybe this thread should have been titled something like "Abuse of the flea market and the CP forum" instead. Pretty sure Dem did not make this thread to accuse someone of selling stolen goods, but rather just putting the thought out there.

    There is a big difference in this member selling NIB stuff and other members selling things like Ben and Larry. What they are offering is something DIRECTLY related to this forums creation. And something that may not be able to be had anywhere else online. Hell I can buy a brand new iPod at many places. :tongue:

    To me the member in question is using the forum for free advertising for his goods. Again, IF one searches this users name (Google) they will see he does this on various forums. So it boils down to this for him....why pay listing fees when I can list my **** for free on this forum.
    --Gary--
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  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited November 2010
    I'll say it again since some chose to ignore my post and continue on their rant...
    Honestly, instead of creating a thread on this why not ask the person/people in question?

    I PMed said-member since I did have my doubts but it was cleared up. Not sure why some of you don't do the same?
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  • xj4094dg
    xj4094dg Posts: 1,158
    edited November 2010
    kawizx9r wrote: »
    +1

    Honestly, instead of creating a thread on this why not ask the person/people in question?

    I PMed said-member since I did have my doubts but it was cleared up. Not sure why some of you don't do the same?

    Don't hide behind a computer, just my .02

    -Freddy

    Careful, such rational thought like that might get you banned!
    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it." Neil deGrasse Tyson.
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  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited November 2010
    xj4094dg wrote: »
    Careful, such rational thought like that might get you banned!

    If that were the case, then so be it. But I know most of us around here have somewhat of a thick skin (wish I could say the same for everyone) especially after seeing some of those cable/amp debates and such.

    Anyway, I really think that if people had a problem with it that they contact said-party directly whether via PM or Email.

    I see the thread as a means to conjure **** up and hide behind others (I could be wrong but that's the impression I'm getting here).

    If you were at the movies, and someone was kicking your seat from behind you wouldn't complain about it later to your friends after the movie right? You'd tell the person behind you to quit their ****.

    If something bothers you, speak up. That's just my opinion.
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    Polk SR5250
    Polk SR104


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  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited November 2010
    Might just be me, but I'm very blunt. I call things as I see it. Some of you know me personally, and know how I am but it's never been a problem.
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    Phoenix Gold RSD65CS

    For Sale
    Polk SR6500
    Polk SR5250
    Polk SR104


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