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  • Hawkeye
    Hawkeye Posts: 1,313
    edited October 2010
    I'd say nothing to your friend. Is a friendship worth ruining over a set of speakers? Let him think Polk is junk and Bose is top shelf. It's just not worth getting worked up over. There are more important things in life. The man is happy with what he has. And if he's happy, that's all that matters. You don't have to save anybody from anything.

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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited October 2010
    mdaudioguy wrote: »
    If some people can enjoy sound through their TV speakers, then why can't a guy enjoy a movie through his Bose system? It doesn't pain me whatsoever that perhaps millions of people do this daily. And I think that's what Serendipity was getting at. I think his credibility is intact. He basically said it was ok, not fantastic or better than anyone's Polks.

    Things that make you go, hmmm....
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited October 2010
    Serendipity wrote: »
    Just as a side note -

    Back in August two Polkies (Face and Polrbehr) stopped by for a demo. I had loaded up CD's in the Onkyo 5-disc changer, one of them was a bunch of MP3 files burned to CD.

    Neither of them noticed that an MP3 file was being played.
    Well, since you had to go there.

    Large towers powered by a struggling receiver(volume 0 to +10) in a very reflective room. Don't forget the fact that Harry and I weren't familiar with your rig, what do you expect?
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  • messiah
    messiah Posts: 1,790
    edited October 2010
    Thanks for all of your input Ladies and Gentlemen. At this point I think I'm just going to leave it be. At some point the conversation probably will happen, but he will have to be the one to initiate it. Thanks again. :)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,597
    edited October 2010
    not relevent to discussion -

    BP1B are 8 ohms
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited October 2010
    Corrected, thank you. Although, I could have sworn he told me they were 4ohms. :rolleyes:
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,597
    edited October 2010
    Im a Def Tech nerd, I know way to much useless info about DT....
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited October 2010
    Osarion wrote: »
    Any chance you could take your speakers over there and give them a listen? You could just tell him you want to see how they sound with his setup and then the rest will take care of itself hopefully.
    Clever and subtle approach... You don't tell him his speakers are crap, you let him audition good speakers ;)
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    I know my friends would appreciate my -honest- input.

    But on the flip side, alot of my friends would ask me what I would do before hand.

    If he is happy, just invite him over for a movie night and blow him away.
    Key words: friend ask... Invite friend... Do not tell him ;)
    amulford wrote: »
    say nothing, just invite him over for a movie night...
    Again, key words and subtle approach ;)
    messiah wrote: »
    ... but if I can't do this tactfully, I wont do it at all.

    I'd love to bring my speakers over to his house to do an a/b comparison. Hell, he lives less than a mile away, and I'd even spring for the speaker selector, but I'm not sure how well that would go over. What would I say, "ever wondered what your theater would sound like with good speakers"? :o

    Having him over to blow his face off with movies is a good idea, but just isn't too likely unfortunately. They have two small children, and my condo isn't really that kid friendly as there's usually lots of knives and guns laying around, uh... I mean kids are antsy when they are little, and when we hang out it's almost always at their place. ;) It's a good idea, but still not as effective as an a/b comparison.

    When I say that we're good friends, it actually goes a bit beyond that. My wife is his daughters godmother, and my wife and his wife have been best friends for years and years. Hell, they even share the same birthday. You really couldn't ask for a better friend, and the last thing I would ever do is insult him over some speakers.

    For everyone who said just leave it alone, I have, and thank you. There are things more important than speakers in life, but I really just want to help the guy. Hell, if you had a booger hanging out of your nose, would you want your friend to tell you and be a little embarrassed, or have him not tell you and have everyone else laugh at you behind your back? I know what I would choose.

    I'm just looking for a good tactful way of going about this, and it doesn't need to happen tomorrow.

    Thank you all for your help.
    Your first step would be to get him over your place, not to nag him about your speakers being better than his but rather simply to return his own invite. He gets to listen to your own set-up and hopefully ask some questions or comment. This is an opening for you, not to bash his and elevate yours but simply share knowledge, experience and beliefs and that hopefully could lead you to the next step... BTW, can't those knifes and guns be secured for an evening??

    If there is a discussion and or an opening, you can then propose an AB audition - comparision between his and your set-up. Not in a way that ''mine are better than yours'' but rather humbly and simply out of curiosity.

    If he feels his set-up his just as good or better than yours, it means he is happy and you leave it as that. On the opposite, if he wakes up and realize his set-up is crap compare to yours, he will ask more questions and have an open mind to go further.
    obieone wrote: »
    Simple answer: He didn't seek any advice, so don't offer any.
    vc69 wrote: »
    I have to ask myself two questions in a situation like this:

    1)Did he ask for help?

    2)Did he as me for help?
    cfrizz wrote: »
    I was thinking the same thing. The best solution in both cases is that the parties involved need to keep their mouths SHUT!
    jflail2 wrote: »
    Yea, if he wants to upgrade after hearing your system, good on him and his ears. If not, good on him for finding what he likes.

    Point being, if he's happy, then good for him and leave it at that. If he comes to my place and says "holy ****, I want what you have", then I'd be happy to get him going in the right direction. That's just not going to happen with dad though....and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I'm glad he's happy with what he's got.
    All of the above quotes are really good advices to keep the friendship alive which afterall is way more important than speakers.
    messiah wrote: »
    Thanks for all of your input Ladies and Gentlemen. At this point I think I'm just going to leave it be. At some point the conversation probably will happen, but he will have to be the one to initiate it. Thanks again. :)
    The best way to initiate the conversation, is to get him to listen to your own set-up in a friendly and non threathning way. Keep mouth shut but put in action, get him to listen to the difference ;)

    GL in making your friend even happier than he is w
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  • messiah
    messiah Posts: 1,790
    edited October 2010
    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    Clever and subtle approach... You don't tell him his speakers are crap, you let him audition good speakers ;)

    Key words: friend ask... Invite friend... Do not tell him ;)

    Again, key words and subtle approach ;)

    Your first step would be to get him over your place, not to nag him about your speakers being better than his but rather simply to return his own invite. He gets to listen to your own set-up and hopefully ask some questions or comment. This is an opening for you, not to bash his and elevate yours but simply share knowledge, experience and beliefs and that hopefully could lead you to the next step... BTW, can't those knifes and guns be secured for an evening??

    If there is a discussion and or an opening, you can then propose an AB audition - comparision between his and your set-up. Not in a way that ''mine are better than yours'' but rather humbly and simply out of curiosity.

    If he feels his set-up his just as good or better than yours, it means he is happy and you leave it as that. On the opposite, if he wakes up and realize his set-up is crap compare to yours, he will ask more questions and have an open mind to go further.







    All of the above quotes are really good advices to keep the friendship alive which afterall is way more important than speakers.

    The best way to initiate the conversation, is to get him to listen to your own set-up in a friendly and non threathning way. Keep mouth shut but put in action, get him to listen to the difference ;)

    GL in making your friend even happier than he is w
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited October 2010
    messiah wrote: »
    Thanks man, all good points. And yes, the knives and guns get put away If I KNOW company is coming over. :D

    We'll be having them over for dinner soon. I'll put on transformers 2 (which he is now quite familiar with), and then leave it up to him. Maybe he can tell the difference, maybe he cant. I know his wife is hoping for cant! :cool:
    Oh yeah, the WAF is also a big thing, just this is enough to keep him closed to anything else but the small un-obstructive bose. You should keep an eye open on the new TLs demo. If he has an open mind about good sound but wants some that is small with a spiffy look, maybe the TL3s could lead him away from bose? No matter what happens, you also get the pleasure to demo some new Polk product with a good friend :D That could be another sneaky way to get him involved an opened to discussing speakers with you (just make it sound as you want his advice on the new product ;) I am convinced the TLs would gain WAF, right?
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  • messiah
    messiah Posts: 1,790
    edited October 2010
    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    Oh yeah, the WAF is also a big thing, just this is enough to keep him closed to anything else but the small un-obstructive bose. You should keep an eye open on the new TLs demo. If he has an open mind about good sound but wants some that is small with a spiffy look, maybe the TL3s could lead him away from bose? No matter what happens, you also get the pleasure to demo some new Polk product with a good friend :D That could be another sneaky way to get him involved an opened to discussing speakers with you (just make it sound as you want his advice on the new product ;) I am convinced the TLs would gain WAF, right?

    It's not about WAF, even though I'm pretty interested in the TL3 for the bedroom. It's actually a dedicated home theater room. He keeps the door locked so the kids don't mess with it. The back entry door to the gear has a keypad as well. Everything about his theater is great now, except for the sound.
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    Benjamin Franklin, February 17th, 1775.

    "The day that I have to give up my constitutional rights AND let some dude rub my junk...well, let's just say that it's gonna be a real bad day for the dude trying to rub my junk!!"
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited October 2010
    Nominal Impedance: 4 — 8 ohms

    Unless I am reading this incorrectly, "Nominal Impedance: 4 — 8 ohms" means they go AS LOW as 4 ohms.

    Link: http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Technology-Tower-Loudspeaker-Single/dp/B000UW3KFA
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited October 2010
    Face wrote: »
    Well, since you had to go there.

    Large towers powered by a struggling receiver(volume 0 to +10) in a very reflective room. Don't forget the fact that Harry and I weren't familiar with your rig, what do you expect?

    You said it sounded good. The only thing was poor imaging, according to you.
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  • Hawkeye
    Hawkeye Posts: 1,313
    edited October 2010
    Serendipity wrote: »
    You said it sounded good. The only thing was poor imaging, according to you.

    Perhaps Mike was being a gentleman?

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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited October 2010
    This is exactly what he said:
    The only major flaw I found was poor imaging. Otherwise they sounded better than expected. The lack of imaging may be from the room, the receiver being on the edge of over driven, the speakers being bi-poles, or a combination of all three.

    And for the record, a lot of effort has gone into the room. From the ceiling tiles, to the subpanel with dedicated circuits, to all the integration, a lot of work went into the room!
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited October 2010
    cstmar01 wrote: »
    I just think you need to calm down a bit, because like I said, not everyone that is a musician gives a crap about SQ or anything playing outside of the room.

    I should. Going back and reading this, I feel that I may have been a little harsh when I said that musicians care about SQ. But the main reason I was upset was with the general nature of how I was treated:
    F1nut wrote: »
    Hmmmm...your credibility just flew out the window.

    OK, how do you think I am supposed to respond to this? Why would you say anything about my credibility? The golden rule of relationships is, "if you don't have anything nice to say don't say it!" I have never said anything about your credibility so I expect the same in return.

    So I said the following via PM, looking at the Forum Rules:
    Why don't you apologize and I'll just let this go.

    And to this day, I still have not received an apology - or a sincere one, that is. So I'm sorry if I was a little harsh saying that musicians care about SQ; that's just the way I see it having been around musicians for a while. That's all, I'm just surprised anyone would say such hurtful things like "your credibility just flew out the window."
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,475
    edited October 2010
    Lol....
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited October 2010
    F1nut wrote:
    Lol....

    That's harsh!
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  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited October 2010
    Agree to disagree, sheesh.

    Some people can't take things with a grain of salt.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited October 2010
    shack wrote: »
    That's harsh!

    I take it you support his behavior?

    How about the fact that he never apologized to me after saying these exact words:
    "Hmmmm...your credibility just flew out the window."

    So I'm still waiting. Until then...
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited October 2010
    kawizx9r wrote: »
    Agree to disagree, sheesh.

    Some people can't take things with a grain of salt.

    I said "let's agree to disagree" on Page 2 of this thread.

    He sent me a PM with "LOL..."

    So F1nut, why don't you man up AND give me a SINCERE APOLOGY?
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited October 2010
    This is what I am talking about: http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99713&page=2&highlight=motorcycles
    (Scroll down to Post 41), just in case people missed the thread.

    How DARE you judge someone? For the record, although I am young, I am a very safe driver and would never attempt any stunts on a motorcycle. Yet you are so presumptuous and think that I am not mature enough? Well guess what, I would NEVER ride in an unsafe manner, ever! And why would I be selected to TA Intro to Electrical Engineering at my university if I'm not responsible?
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited October 2010
    Dude.....

    What Jesse said was very very tame, and if thats all that it takes to get you going I'm suprised that you can do a TA job honestly because I know several TA's that get ripped on hardcore on a daily basis for not knowing stuff. (not saying you don't, its just something that goes along with the job).

    If you want someone to say sorry, I would suggest keeping this to a PM. What he said is very tame, and honestly I'm not sure why he has to say he's sorry because its not a big deal.

    People get made fun of on a daily basis, please get used to it, if it really bothers you that much, only the future is going to be very very tough for you. Honestly I don't think there has been a job yet that I haven't either been called a name, or something much much worse on a daily basis.

    and also just because your a TA doesn't have crap to do with riding a bike. Trust me, it doesn't. If it did then I know a few people that would still be alive today because they were smart fellows, just not the greatest with bike skills.
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  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited October 2010
    Chris, your system sucks! :p
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  • HB27
    HB27 Posts: 1,518
    edited October 2010
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Why not. Is this guy a friend, or a casual acquaintance?

    If a friend he should certainly be receptive to learning something, and making his HT better. He might not like the idea of spending more money, he might not even care if it could sound better, but if he is a friend then he certainly can't be upset at the idea his system could be improved. And that improvement could add immensely to his enjoyment of the system.

    His wife could have picked out the Bose and you're gonna start a heckova fight. He probably knows it sucks but kisses arse for domestic harmony.
    He'd probably rather listen to the Nasty crap coming out of the Bose than have nasty crap coming out of his womans pie hole.
    Just thinkin' out loud why the hell anyone would buy Bose.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited October 2010
    cstmar01 wrote: »
    Dude.....

    What Jesse said was very very tame, and if thats all that it takes to get you going I'm suprised that you can do a TA job honestly because I know several TA's that get ripped on hardcore on a daily basis for not knowing stuff. (not saying you don't, its just something that goes along with the job).

    If you want someone to say sorry, I would suggest keeping this to a PM. What he said is very tame, and honestly I'm not sure why he has to say he's sorry because its not a big deal.

    People get made fun of on a daily basis, please get used to it, if it really bothers you that much, only the future is going to be very very tough for you. Honestly I don't think there has been a job yet that I haven't either been called a name, or something much much worse on a daily basis.

    and also just because your a TA doesn't have crap to do with riding a bike. Trust me, it doesn't. If it did then I know a few people that would still be alive today because they were smart fellows, just not the greatest with bike skills.

    It's the principle of it. Would he say "Hmmmm...your credibility just flew out the window" to me in person? Probably not. I don't care about the name calling, if you think what this is about; saying that about someone's credibility is uncalled for, IMO. For the record I have NEVER said anything about F1nut's credibility so I would expect the same in return. There is a thing called respect, folks.

    The TA thing is just an example. My Mother has no problem lending me her 430-hp Corvette C6 Coupe, becuase I have never driven recklessly or will do anything stupid with the car. Give a 430-hp car to someone else my age, and let's see what happens. I do not have any accidents in my driving history, not even a fender bender, nor any tickets on my record.

    Really, it's all about the principle.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited October 2010
    Serendipity wrote: »
    It's the principle of it. Would he say "Hmmmm...your credibility just flew out the window" to me in person? Probably not.
    I would say you're definitely wrong.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited October 2010
    Face wrote: »
    I would say you're definitely wrong.

    OK, so you are going to say this too? This wouldn't be here if he had just apologized, which apparently, he has not done. And how dare someone judge another person? Isn't there a thing called respect? Or do people not respect others anymore? How DARE he judge someone!!
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited October 2010
    What he posted in the 2 threads is totally rude and disrespectful!
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  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited October 2010
    Serendipity wrote: »
    What he posted in the 2 threads is totally rude and disrespectful!

    Hey Serendipity, I'd hate to say this but this is the internet.

    If I had someone call me an **** or something along those lines, I'd just brush it off and move on (whether it was true or not).

    Let's all enjoy the music now :D
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