Would you like a brand-new $1K universal player for $150.00 shipped?

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  • DaveHo
    DaveHo Posts: 3,500
    edited October 2010
    billbillw wrote: »
    Hey, you know, the replacement laser on that 2900 is pretty cheap and easy to swap out. Let me know if that is something you want to try. Just need a screw driver, a soldering iron, and some solder wick.

    Also, way to go finding that coupon! Really a steal for under $100.

    Tell me more. When I first started having problems, I researched this a bit & was under the impression the replacement part was $100+. If that's not the case, I'm game to give it a try. I've got the soldering/desoldering tools.

    Thanks.

    -Dave
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,727
    edited October 2010
    megasat16 wrote: »
    Bill, I understand what you are saying about 2 channel audio board.

    As for strictly 2 channel unit in pure direct mode, it shuts off everything including the multi-channel audio for the audio. You have a dedicated 2 channel audio outputs in the rear of the unit which is probably a separate pathway for signal even though it's on the same board. I guess it's probably serve the same purpose as having a separate 2 channel audio board and multi-channel audio board.

    You might want to consider that in most designs, features like pure direct, etc., just mute or turn off the output sections (not the entire circuit) and kill the front display. Most of the time, it is physically/electrically impossible to completely 'turn off' the entire circuit, especially the 'chips' like DSPs, DACs, etc.

    In fact, in this particular Pioneer, it is impossible to turn off the video MPEG Decoder chip because the CD PCM audio stream comes out from it. The direct mode does bypass the audio DSP and feeds directly to the R/L DAC. Based on the block diagram and schematics, I pretty sure the other channels are still running, but they are just not receiving any feed signal and the output is muted.
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  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited October 2010
    for some reason my CC order did not work. i had placed an order for 2 of them

    this sucks!!!!

    so anyone that may have picked up an extra one that they are not gonna use or wanna sale. hit me up please.
    mole'
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited October 2010
    billbillw wrote: »
    You might want to consider that in most designs, features like pure direct, etc., just mute or turn off the output sections (not the entire circuit) and kill the front display. Most of the time, it is physically/electrically impossible to completely 'turn off' the entire circuit, especially the 'chips' like DSPs, DACs, etc.

    In fact, in this particular Pioneer, it is impossible to turn off the video MPEG Decoder chip because the CD PCM audio stream comes out from it. The direct mode does bypass the audio DSP and feeds directly to the R/L DAC. Based on the block diagram and schematics, I pretty sure the other channels are still running, but they are just not receiving any feed signal and the output is muted.

    I am not sure how the Pure Direct is designed for this particular unit. But I remember I tried pure direct mode with TV for setting this up, and it shuts off HDMI and all other audio channels. I am not sure it also shuts off multi channel video outputs or not.

    But as you have said, multi-channel audio might have been muted or bypassed in pure direct mode but I don't know. But If it's muted by the DSP for multi channels, there is no signal feeding to the analog session of the multi-channel audio. So, signal does not present at these DAC session. It's what I meant as shutting down too. I think it's not possible to shut down power supply to those boards unless there is more advanced power circuits involved and controlled by the logic processor or something.

    I have downloaded the service manual once but it's 80-100 pages long so I gave up reading it.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,727
    edited October 2010
    DaveHo wrote: »
    Tell me more. When I first started having problems, I researched this a bit & was under the impression the replacement part was $100+. If that's not the case, I'm game to give it a try. I've got the soldering/desoldering tools.

    Thanks.

    -Dave

    Dave, I sent you a PM with some details. Lemme know if you need any further help.
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited October 2010
    DaveHo wrote: »
    I found a coupon code for MCM Electronics, AFC909, & ended up getting the player for less than $100 including shipping. Nice deal!

    -Dave

    I just checked this out and it came to $98 shipped when I looked it up with the code. However, they do not take paypal as far as I can tell if that effects your payment options.
    Jake
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited October 2010
    I ordered the Pioneer player last night for my father-in-law from 6ave.com via paypal and everything went through. Today I got an email from them saying my order had been canceled because my shipping address (work) was not confirmed in my account because it is different than my billing address (home); although my account is confirmed. I then asked about paying for the player a different way even though the paypal things is BS, but they had already sold out including the unit I had purchased. My next question to them was when were they going to refund my money since they canceled my order, and was told 3-5 business days...

    Has anyone had a similar experience?
    Jake
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited October 2010
    That's a bunch of bulls. I haven't hard anything from them yet but I hope my order is not canceled.
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited October 2010
    I got the email first thing this morning, so you're probably safe.
    Jake
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  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited October 2010
    zingo wrote: »
    I ordered the Pioneer player last night for my father-in-law from 6ave.com via paypal and everything went through. Today I got an email from them saying my order had been canceled because my shipping address (work) was not confirmed in my account because it is different than my billing address (home); although my account is confirmed. I then asked about paying for the player a different way even though the paypal things is BS, but they had already sold out including the unit I had purchased. My next question to them was when were they going to refund my money since they canceled my order, and was told 3-5 business days...

    Has anyone had a similar experience?

    got almost the same email.

    post #72
    mole'
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited October 2010
    I just emailed 6ave.com back with my frustration, but I don't think it will do any good.
    Jake
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited October 2010
    zingo wrote: »
    I got the email first thing this morning, so you're probably safe.

    May be I am safe but I keep my fingers crossed from now. I might have placed an order earlier than you.

    $150 shipped is quite a deal on this player.
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited October 2010
    Awesome post and good on you Danny for sharing. Hmmmm now if I can find a place to use it. Thanks again bro.
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  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited October 2010
    i ended up finding a BNIB Sony BDP-S1000ES. anyone wanna trade that plus cash for one of these? this would match with my Pioneer SC-07 much better
    mole'
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited October 2010
    I haven't received anything other than a confirmation of my order. If this deal falls through for me, I'm getting the Sherwood universal player.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,727
    edited October 2010
    Danny Tse wrote: »
    I haven't received anything other than a confirmation of my order. If this deal falls through for me, I'm getting the Sherwood universal player.

    I'd call 6ave and ask the status. You never know when that Sherwood is going to sell out also!
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited October 2010
    A little behind the scene. I've compared it with Rotel RCD-1072 and Emotiva ERC-1 during our demo group. ERC-1 was not mine to keep but I don't want to keep it either.

    I've compared all of them for the regular redbook CD, and the HDCD. And I've turned off upsampling in the DV-79Avi if you wonder. But it sounds better with the upsampling turned on in the Pio.

    Guess which one I keep?
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited October 2010
    If anyone bought an extra Pioneer for some reason, I'd be open to buying it...
    Jake
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited October 2010
    Received email....Pioneer has been shipped.
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited October 2010
    I also received email that mine is shipped today as well.

    Too bad I only ordered one unit. If I ordered 2 or more, I could have sell one back at cost for you guys.

    But wait, I may just do that for this unit if I change my mind. :D
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,212
    edited October 2010
    So I ordered 1 unit then a buddy of mine I was talking to about it wanted one so I odered another one..

    Well today I called to see about my orders and they said the first one was canceled and the second one was on order with the manufacture.

    I asked why the first one was canceled they said that they got duplicate orders so they canceled one.. I was like WTF is wrong with you people?? I said did you guys ever think that I wanted two of them since thats what I did order?? well we are sorry about this..
    WTF do you mean your sorry don't you guys have the common sense to even contact the buyer and ask if thats what he/she wanted??

    I told them to cancel the other order and I want my money back ASAP, AND THAT I WON'T BE LOOKING TO DO BUISNESS WITH THEM AGAIN...

    End rant... Move on..
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  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited October 2010
    megasat16 wrote: »
    I also received email that mine is shipped today as well.

    Too bad I only ordered one unit. If I ordered 2 or more, I could have sell one back at cost for you guys.

    But wait, I may just do that for this unit if I change my mind. :D

    LMK if you wanna sell it.
    mole'
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  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited October 2010
    TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »
    So I ordered 1 unit then a buddy of mine I was talking to about it wanted one so I odered another one..

    Well today I called to see about my orders and they said the first one was canceled and the second one was on order with the manufacture.

    I asked why the first one was canceled they said that they got duplicate orders so they canceled one.. I was like WTF is wrong with you people?? I said did you guys ever think that I wanted two of them since thats what I did order?? well we are sorry about this..
    WTF do you mean your sorry don't you guys have the common sense to even contact the buyer and ask if thats what he/she wanted??

    I told them to cancel the other order and I want my money back ASAP, AND THAT I WON'T BE LOOKING TO DO BUISNESS WITH THEM AGAIN...

    End rant... Move on..

    both of mine got canceled. still dont have a solid answer as of why. jusy that it had something to do with my Paypal CC
    mole'
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited October 2010
    I received mine from UPS today.
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  • jephdood
    jephdood Posts: 1,671
    edited October 2010
    Crap. I hope these come available again.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,727
    edited October 2010
    jephdood wrote: »
    Crap. I hope these come available again.

    Not likely since it is discontinued. You normally don't see Pio Elite for sale online anyway, so this was a rare sale event.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,773
    edited October 2010
    Not quite as good of a deal, but there is always the DV-58AV at about half price:



    http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Products/HomeEntertainment/Blu-rayDisc+DVD/EliteDVDPlayers/ci.DV-58AV.Kuro
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  • ESavinon
    ESavinon Posts: 3,066
    edited October 2010
    Got mine today. After spending a couple of hours listening to it, I can say It completely blows the sherwood out of the water.
    Sacd and Dvd-A sound alot better on the Elite than on the original Oppo BP-83.
    I would say it sounds as good as my Denon DVD-3930CI.
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  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited October 2010
    ESavinon wrote: »
    Got mine today. After spending a couple of hours listening to it, I can say It completely blows the sherwood out of the water.
    Sacd and Dvd-A sound alot better on the Elite than on the original Oppo BP-83.
    I would say it sounds as good as my Denon DVD-3930CI.

    i want one.......
    mole'
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  • dcmartinpc
    dcmartinpc Posts: 844
    edited October 2010
    mole' wrote: »
    i want one.......

    me too!!!!
    Living Room: Adcom GFP-750 (Upgraded), Squeezebox Touch, Oppo BDP-83, Pioneer DV-79AVi, Parasound HCA-3500 (Upgraded), SDA SRS 2 P/B (Gimpod, Sonicaps, & Mills)

    Theater: Denon 4311ci, Oppo BDP-93, Parasound HCA-2205+HCA-2200II, Polk LSi9, LSiC, LSiFX, LSi7, Custom 18" TC Sounds sub with 2 18" PR, Sharp XV-Z12000, Pioneer Kuro KRP-500M (isf Enabled)

    Bedroom: HK AVR354, Pioneer DV-47a, Parasound HCA-1500a, Polk LSi9
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