I pulled the trigger...

VR3
VR3 Posts: 28,748
edited October 2010 in DIY, Mods & Tweaks
Claritycap MR series on the way!
- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited September 2010
    Let me guess someone nudged you in that direction via a PM.;)I assume their for your pre?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited September 2010
    tweeters for the towers! woo hoo
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited September 2010
    Oh Ok ,you really have the mod bug bad,not that there is anything wrong with that.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited September 2010
    Haha it all started with opening them up and seeing those cheap **** parts...

    The rest is down hill...

    If I do anything with the preampe it will be a while... I emailed Alex at Odyssey to see what he would do.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Outfitter03
    Outfitter03 Posts: 563
    edited September 2010
    Do you buy through Madison Sound for Clarity Caps or somewhere different?
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited September 2010
    Face is a good resource --I read a post of his somewhere,and IIRC I got my MR series caps from a place named Caps N coils,, took about 2 weeks to get em,, but very reasonably priced.
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited September 2010
    Are there major differences between Sonicaps and Clarity?? (price and performance)
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited September 2010
    Yes and yes.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited September 2010
    Bad and good.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited September 2010
    The house must be done, Sid the kid got the itch again.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited September 2010
    Face,
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited September 2010
    which speakers are you tweaking?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited September 2010
    The Tylers....
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited September 2010
    Just ordered Diffraction be Gone + No Rez to put on the inside of the cabinet.

    Going to trick these things out for sure
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Ern Dog
    Ern Dog Posts: 2,237
    edited September 2010
    Wow, thats cool dude. I've never cracked my Tylers.

    Tell me more about this Diffraction be Gone + No Rez and how it would improve the speakers.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited September 2010
    The Diffraction be gone is supposed to make the cabinet disappear and make the tweeter sound alot more open and cleaner - not really something I think needs to be fixed but something I wanted to try.

    Ty only puts poly fill in the front of my speakers -- so I am going to line alot of the back and front of the enclosure with no rez to help cut down on standing waves and so forth in the cabinet

    Also apparently the Hovland Musicap is a very bright capacitor and with those new resistors - while it all sounds worlds better has unleashed the brightness...

    So I cant wait to drop in those Clarity MR caps.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited September 2010
    Ern if you would be up for it - I would like for you to crack open your speakers just to see what kind of parts Ty used on the inside of your speakers...

    I gotta be honest seeing the cheap parts he used my overall enthusiasm for my speakers dwindled - at least for his brand as a whole.

    While I always thought they sounded good - Ty advertises top quality parts in the important signal paths... this is not the case.

    Either way - take 400 bucks and throw it at the crossovers... resistors and caps and expect a whole new speaker.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited September 2010
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    I gotta be honest seeing the cheap parts he used.

    Exactly what is he using?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited September 2010
    He uses Bennic capacitors (Pieces of **** capacitors that you find in bargain bins) on the woofers...

    He uses Eagles Resistors... which I guess are ok - judging by how much of an improvement I received with Duelund resistors I would put them right with Bennic...

    The Musicap by Hovland is actually a decent capacitor but if you look them up mostly guitar enthusiast use them are more known for electronic use than speaker use... and people who use them in speakers coin them as very bright and brittle and are very picky with the tweeter you put them with...

    So I think the Clarity Caps will really compliment the tweeters.

    Everything really opened up by replacing the resistors and putting the Clarity Cap SA series on the woofer network
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited September 2010
    I am converting these to external crossovers...

    The tweeter network will be in one box, the woofer in another...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited September 2010
    2 boxes would be overkill. A single box would work fine as long as all your coils are orientated correctly: http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/coils.htm
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited September 2010
    I know its overkill lol - I went with two because I found two boxes at 5 bucks a pop, the ones that would house everything was way to much lol

    Between the SA caps, the resistors, the MR caps, the binding post to do this, the extra wire, the boxes.... can you OUCH
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited September 2010
    That was very helpful!!! That link is great!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited September 2010
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    - I went with two because I found two boxes at 5 bucks a pop

    You can do better than that; make your own boxes.

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited September 2010
    I dont have the time to make my own boxes lol

    I just ordered some hand made cigar boxes that are unfinished for the woofer network and I got a plastic smaller one for the tweeter....

    The woofer network has 3 inductors I want to make sure they have adequate space...
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited September 2010
    Hey,, lemme' know how the clarity's sound in the tweeter cirduit,,I have an older pair of Tatlos reference monitors,, they have a 5 uf Hovland cap in the tweeter circuit and I'm thinking that I can do better,,good luck,,please keep us posted.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited September 2010
    Will do George...

    Swap out those resistors - it really sparks new life into those speakers, not to mention getting rid of those crappy caps lol
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited September 2010
    Parts list that is on the way

    1) Clarity Cap MR for tweeters
    2) 40 Ft of DH Labs wiring
    3) Binding Post for the enclosures - in and out per box
    4) Enclosures for the crossovers
    5) Misc resistors (Eagle and Mundorf to adjust the tweeter - then will order the correct value in a Duelund...
    6) Rubber dampening feet for the enclosures

    This is going to be fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • iskandam
    iskandam Posts: 704
    edited September 2010
    Ricardo, those boxes are works of art, fitting for the premium components that live inside them.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited September 2010
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    Will do George...

    Swap out those resistors - it really sparks new life into those speakers, not to mention getting rid of those crappy caps lol

    I'm thinking of starting(possibly) with the Taylos Reference Monitors,, they have a Hovland cap in line with the tweeter,,,but a couple of Bennics and two (to be determined) resistors elsewhere,,supposedly they are not critical,,however an upgrade could not hurt,,at least in my mind,,I need to investigate further,,thats why I'm interested in your work.Unfortunately,,I would have to order 10 of the MR series to get a 5 uf value(custom,,according to the dealer).Keep us posted,please sir--best of luck.
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