Lou Reed Wont Let Boyle Sing His Song

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  • munk
    munk Posts: 258
    edited September 2010
    Snow,

    Lmao " Now your trying to make me look like a bad guy for not berating Lou for his actions"

    I asked if you were cynical, Snow, that's all. No one's tried to make you look any way.

    I'm serious. There's no double hand here, I've tried to speak with you on the subject. I was surprised by your take on Boyle, so I asked if you were cynical.

    I don't want you to berate Lou for his actions. I don't need to be agreed with. I'm hoping you don't either. You had a different take on this. That's all.

    "And I said what I said about your description of Lou because as far as im concerned it isnt relevant to the main point which was his refusal to allow her to sing his song."

    And I appreciated hearing this.

    The poster who thought TMZ was hardly trustworthy has it right.
    All the way through this thread at the back of my mind I wondered if another shoe would drop.

    We wouldn't have a thread if everyone agreed.
    And Snow? I don't want Boyle to 'grow up' as you said. (not that I'm concerned with her) I'm glad she's not like everyone in the music industry.

    munk
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  • munk
    munk Posts: 258
    edited September 2010
    Rev Hayes;

    "You all seem to be saying that he will suffer as a result but.........".

    That isn't my take on this- I think he's already been 'punished'. That's not the face of a happy man.

    You're right about the sales and publicity. Boyle looks much happier than Reed.
    The two pictures, side by side, said a lot.


    Does anyone know for certain now if TMZ got the story wrong?

    OK, CBS reports- (if I can believe them)

    I have a question for the audiophiles here; How long is a copyrighted song out of reach for another singer?
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited September 2010
    munk wrote: »
    And Snow? I don't want Boyle to 'grow up' as you said. (not that I'm concerned with her) I'm glad she's not like everyone in the music industry.

    munk
    Awwww isnt that special :) Just curious are you a therapist or Counselor of some sort Munk? The reason I ask is your mentioning the DSM lV



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • BrettT1
    BrettT1 Posts: 560
    edited September 2010
    Susan got a kiss for ya, munk
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited September 2010
    dorokusai wrote: »
    Lou Reed is an awful musician and writer.

    Evidently, not 6 Velvet Underground :D
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited September 2010
    BrettT1 wrote: »
    Susan got a kiss for ya, munk
    Damn I wish I hadndt seen that, now im scarred for life and will probally have nightmares :eek:





    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • munk
    munk Posts: 258
    edited September 2010
    "Susan got a kiss for ya, munk"

    And BrettT1 attached a thumbnail sketch too...... that..that's... just DEVIOUS
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  • munk
    munk Posts: 258
    edited September 2010
    Snow, no kidding, the overall general knowledge of this forum is about the highest I've ever seen on the web. Doesn't surprise me at all you know the DSM lV

    Go to electronics, they're pulling the guts out of amps and reassembling them- they know STUFF.

    Go to Movies- they're discussing sub genres of film in the last 30 years and know actors, directors, writers, artists and the kid who brought the burgers in from down the street. They know STUFF.

    Go to Speakers- they're reproducing the first known speaker using a water buffalo hide and a bone skull...they know STUFF

    Snow, I don't know the DSM lV. It was the DSM lll when I read it. That's tells you how long ago I was a counselor. You've a good eye. Or Ear... Well done.
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited September 2010
    munk wrote: »
    Snow, no kidding, the overall general knowledge of this forum is about the highest I've ever seen on the web. Doesn't surprise me at all you know the DSM lV

    Go to electronics, they're pulling the guts out of amps and reassembling them- they know STUFF.

    Go to Movies- they're discussing sub genres of film in the last 30 years and know actors, directors, writers, artists and the kid who brought the burgers in from down the street. They know STUFF.

    Go to Speakers- they're reproducing the first known speaker using a water buffalo hide and a bone skull...they know STUFF

    Snow, I don't know the DSM lV. It was the DSM lll when I read it. That's tells you how long ago I was a counselor. You've a good eye. Or Ear... Well done.
    Not convinced that the collective group here is any smarter than your average jellyfish but most of us are old enough that we have lots of real world experience which shows as a general knowledge of most things.

    That pic was Brutal though just Brutal :p

    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited September 2010
    I think Reed is just petty enough to NOT want a true, natural talent, to flourish and succeed. Not only succeed, but knock 'em dead. Overnight. Something that with all the hype, hooplah, and ****, Mr. No-Talent has been trying to pull off for 40 odd years now, with a minimum of success. Knock 'em dead Mr. Reed? Not in a million years. Rock ODDITY? Yes.

    He's a jealous punk, with quite an ugly countenance.

    I'm not a big fan of hers either. But I am a big fan of seeing millions of people made happy. Mr. Reed is not a fan of that.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited September 2010
    I could care less about all this. I thought Lou Reed sucked back in the day and I'm even more convinced of it now. I do thank him for penning "Sweet Jane"...as long as only Mott The Hoople performs it. Of course that is totally offset by "Take A Walk On The Wild Side"...which is total crap...and like fingers on a blackboard every time I hear it.

    As far as Boyle is concerned...(I don't watch any of the reality "talent" shows)...from the snippets I've heard of her, she may have the best voice of any of those that have covered "Perfect Day". Maybe therein lies the rub. Maybe if she were to sing it, even more people will realize just how bad of a singer he was/is.

    Either way...I don't care. I just think the whole thing is funny...plus it was a good opportunity to bash Reed.
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited September 2010
    All I know is that Lou Reed sucks BIG and FLAT out SUCKS! That's all!
    Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin:
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  • messiah
    messiah Posts: 1,790
    edited September 2010
    BrettT1 wrote: »
    Susan got a kiss for ya, munk

    That is one brutal set of man **** :eek:
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    Benjamin Franklin, February 17th, 1775.

    "The day that I have to give up my constitutional rights AND let some dude rub my junk...well, let's just say that it's gonna be a real bad day for the dude trying to rub my junk!!"
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  • munk
    munk Posts: 258
    edited September 2010
    uh....messiah, those aren't man ****. Susan Boyle is a woman.

    Snow,
    Life was OK, until I actually clicked on the thumbnail sketch....Had it REMAINED the size of a postage stamp....

    "But I am a big fan of seeing millions of people made happy. Mr. Reed is not a fan of that." George Grand

    That's it- music should be heard- music made available everywhere. They wanted to hear Boyle sing Perfect Day- let them hear.

    I'm not convinced CBS got the story right. maybe they did, but that also sounded a lot like cover was being provided by the music industry to their franchise star.

    shack- have you heard the Cowboy Junkies version of Sweet Jane?
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited September 2010
    munk wrote:
    shack- have you heard the Cowboy Junkies version of Sweet Jane?

    Yes. Mott The Hoople's is better.
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

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  • munk
    munk Posts: 258
    edited September 2010
    OK. Then I'll have to hear that some time. I remember Mott the Hoople, but haven't heard them in years.

    I'm in a minority here, because I thought Lou Reed did some fine work. He did a lot of shlock, too.
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  • agfrost
    agfrost Posts: 2,426
    edited September 2010
    This thread is all kinds of awesome.

    Doro, I know that similar requests have been asked and denied before, but I really think there's a critical mass here that'll support the creation of a "Lou Reed sucks" subforum here. Talk to your peeps, use your enviable connections and make it happen! ;)

    I extend my heartfelt thanks to everyone who's posted in this thread (excluding this worthless contribution by me!) for a good chuckle. Politicians can't get a mandate, but we've got one here at good old Club Polk! All I need for total happiness is one more apoplectic explosion by Zombie Boy.

    Ha!

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  • munk
    munk Posts: 258
    edited September 2010
    Zombie Boy needs to form his own rocknroll band.
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 10,999
    edited September 2010
    I'm a big fan of his and tvu to each their own!
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited September 2010
    munk wrote: »
    OK. Then I'll have to hear that some time. I remember Mott the Hoople, but haven't heard them in years.

    I'm in a minority here, because I thought Lou Reed did some fine work. He did a lot of shlock, too.

    I think you and I are the only ones thus far who have posted that think he did do some fine work but you are correct about shlock. One LP I can think of that was pure crap was "Berlin!" but many, many other bands who are really great put out a clunker or two also.

    Although he's done some fine work he was and now still is a jackass. However there are many, many artists who are too. Love the music, hate their BS.

    Hahaha I just remembered I didn't even buy "Berlin." I won it on the boardwalk in Wildwood, NJ.

    Whoops I just noticed Willow is also a part of our minority! As the latest member of our minority Bro I'd like to welcome!:D

    I have a copy of Reed performing "Sweet Jane" live. His guitar intro is five minutes long and it is absolutely awesome.

    Steve, I love "take a walk on the wild side" the bass in that is really a bass lover's dream.
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  • cristo
    cristo Posts: 231
    edited September 2010
    Never been a avid fan nor hater of his music.
    You could use Metal Machine Music as a good album for burning in new equipment, though, as long as you're not in the same room!
    I've always been a big fan of his wife's music, though.
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited September 2010
    Jesus. I woke up this morning and realized Lou Reed was probably singing in the shower... or making an egg and bacon sammie... or kicking a puppy... or just breathing heavily.

    It annoyed me. So I hit the snooze alarm.
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • munk
    munk Posts: 258
    edited September 2010
    You need a rock band. You're writing pure poetry.


    Hearingimpaired- Berlin was one of Reed's attempts to do a masterpiece. He was angry the critics didn't see it his way, but many thought it came close to being one.

    I always liked the Blue Mask, one of the songs is about as close to an explanation of the DT's as any rock song ever was; an interpretation that was spot on. Based on experience, I assume.
    I liked the banana album and songs for drella
    Someone here must like the New York album

    Zombie Boy, I'll be putting a Reed CD on later today- let me know if you can hear it.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,212
    edited September 2010
    I always considered Lou Reed the other John Lennon...




























    :eek: NOT!!!!:p
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited September 2010
    munk wrote: »
    Zombie Boy, I'll be putting a Reed CD on later today- let me know if you can hear it.

    I'll assume you're playing it at this very moment. I can't say that I hear it. I can say that my ears are vomiting blood.

    Good day to you, sir.
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited September 2010
    I'm surprised Lou Reed is sober enough to even know who Susan Boyle is.
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  • munk
    munk Posts: 258
    edited September 2010
    He got sober a while ago. Wrote some good songs about it too- New Sensations,
    Underneath the bottle


    Zombie boy, you think I'm kidding about the rock band?
    Write a story, write something. Is 'sir' normally capitalized? If it is then I was not provided the appropriate sir.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited September 2010
    If anyone has some Lou Reed suggestions that may change my mind about his music, let it fly but I think he's awful.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited September 2010
    dorokusai wrote: »
    If anyone has some Lou Reed suggestions that may change my mind about his music, let it fly but I think he's awful.
    Here you go. :D

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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited September 2010
    dorokusai wrote: »
    If anyone has some Lou Reed suggestions that may change my mind about his music, let it fly but I think he's awful.

    I think if it came to listening to Lou Reed singing or the Teletubbies talking......god help me I would roll with the Teletubbies. I'm not saying I'd be happy with it, but lesser of 2 evils here.




    ******though I would choose listening to him getting an interview over the teletubbies, vastly more entertaining.
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