Airline Steward at JFK Pulls Emergency Chute, Flies Coop

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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited August 2010
    Those escape slides are destroyed by the act of deploying them. This alone is worth at least 10 grand. The potential for injury from dozens of panicked passengers trying to leave an aircraft because the don't understand what is happening, combined with aircraft handlers on the ground unaware that there is an escape slide weighing several hundred pounds droping off the belly of this bird and that is deploys explosively like a giant airbag is enough to easily see where people can be injured....

    I have never had issue with you snow, and still don't. It would appear that we just disagree a bit on this and the other thread last night. I actually agree with your take on the other thread, but oh well. I fail to see why you needed to resort to personal attacks as you did in your prior posts.

    That's ok... I still love you!:D:cool:
    What I said wasnt meant as a personal attack it was and is simply how I feel nothing more or less.

    Please save your love for people who want and or need it.

    You remind me of a girl I took out on a date once she was mouthy and aggravating as hell, We had dinner about 30 miles out of town on the way back I couldndt take it any longer and told her that it seemed like the passenger side rear tire was acting like it was flat and asked her to check it out...... Havent heard from her since.

    Too bad your not as easy to lose.
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited August 2010
    John please dont send me any more PM's

    Im not looking for any new friends!!

    I dont care if you like me

    I dont care if you hate me

    Just leave me alone

    I feel like I have expressed my sentiments accurately and honestly in the hopes that you would.
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited August 2010
    Snow, I can't tell if you're joking or not. Could you possibly spell it out for us? :D
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited August 2010
    Face wrote: »
    This sums it up for me.

    With a straight face, I'd like someone to explain to me how he endangered anyone. The plane was not moving or in the air at the time, were people going to magically be sucked out the door? Did he attempt to take anyone with him? Well?

    When someone told me about this story I heard it in a way that I was under the impression he actually parachuted out of the plane while it was in the air. Now that's dangerous, but I was still laughing that someone would be so pissed they'd jump out of an airplane with a couple beers.

    The guy probably is a nasty **** himself, but that's not what I had in my mind when I heard about it.

    Still funny.
  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited August 2010
    snow wrote: »
    What I said wasnt meant as a personal attack it was and is simply how I feel nothing more or less.

    Please save your love for people who want and or need it.

    You remind me of a girl I took out on a date once she was mouthy and aggravating as hell, We had dinner about 30 miles out of town on the way back I couldndt take it any longer and told her that it seemed like the passenger side rear tire was acting like it was flat and asked her to check it out...... Havent heard from her since.

    Too bad your not as easy to lose.

    It just sounds a little personal.
  • Polk user
    Polk user Posts: 311
    edited August 2010
    shawn474 wrote: »
    First of all, what in the blue hell is a "sexual embrace"? And secondly, why would they include this is in the article?


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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,808
    edited August 2010
    snow wrote: »
    John please dont send me any more PM's

    Im not looking for any new friends!!

    I dont care if you like me

    I dont care if you hate me

    Just leave me alone

    I feel like I have expressed my sentiments accurately and honestly in the hopes that you would.

    He does that to you too?
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,383
    edited August 2010
    sorry if you took offense Bro. No need to make things personal. And no, I don't have issues in RL or on other forums for that matter. Then again, this is only the internet and it does a very poor job of conveying the thoughts of others. All you get is a snapshot look into what someone thinks and for me that sometimes is not enough to convey what I am trying to put forth.



    Again, not trying to kiss ****, but please accept my appologies.


    John

    I sent snow one, in an attempt to discuss things privately...ONE. Snow, I thank you for making that public because it only shows your true character... or lack thereof. It is an **** move taking what is said in private to the public areas of the forum. Thanks for showing your true colors for all to see.


    You are a true class act snow. You are my hero.:rolleyes:

    Jstas, yours have been well known and documented. I thank you for adding to that long and utterly useless list of comments.

    Peace!
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited August 2010
    I sent snow one, in an attempt to discuss things privately...ONE. Snow, I thank you for making that public because it only shows your true character... or lack thereof. It is an **** move to taking what is said in private to the public areas of the forum. Thanks for showing your true colors for all to see.


    You are a true class act snow. You are my hero.:rolleyes:

    Jstas, yours have been well known and documented.

    Peace!
    Huh? I never even read whatever it is you said in your PM let alone posted it here, it has been deleted due to lack of interest. I simply asked here for you not to send me anymore is all. It appears to me that you may have posted that PM here now in your quote? if so dont blame that on me.
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,383
    edited August 2010
    snow wrote: »
    Huh? I never even read whatever it is you said in your PM let alone posted it here, it has been deleted due to lack of interest. I simply asked here for you not to send me anymore is all. It appears to me that you may have posted that PM here now in your quote? if so dont blame that on me.

    Your post stating I sent one at all should not have been made IMHO. The sole purpose of a private message is just that. You might want to look that one up. Personal issues should be handled VIA PM.. I tried to be a gentleman and follow the rules, but rules only work when gentlemen follow them. I am done here snow.


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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited August 2010
    Your post stating I sent one at all should not have been made IMHO. The sole purpose of a private message is just that. You might want to look that one up. Personal issues should be handled VIA PM.. I tried to be a gentleman and follow the rules, but rules only work when gentlemen follow them. I am done here snow.


    welcome to bozoville
    Shakes his head in wonderment..... So your pissed at me that I didnt reply to your PM with a PM of my own asking that you didnt send me anymore PM's?

    I wasnt aware there were "rules" regarding PM's that required you reply in this fashion.

    Either way we are now done with this subject correct?

    Please! Please! say it is so or even better yet dont reply and then I will know it is over.
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • ShinAce
    ShinAce Posts: 1,194
    edited August 2010
    Your post stating I sent one at all should not have been made IMHO. The sole purpose of a private message is just that. You might want to look that one up. Personal issues should be handled VIA PM.. I tried to be a gentleman and follow the rules, but rules only work when gentlemen follow them. I am done here snow.


    welcome to bozoville

    No dice. Rules are one thing, but courtesy is another. It might be common courtesy to keep private matters private, but it's not a rule. At least not on this forum it doesn't seem to be.

    Honestly, if you want your private life to be private, don't go posting your PMs.
  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited August 2010
    Best chuckle I've had since that guy threw his shoes at Bush.
  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited August 2010
  • BeRad
    BeRad Posts: 736
    edited August 2010
    How the hell were peoples lives in danger?
    The guy didn't put lives in danger any more than I do while sleeping in bed.

    also: The word 'hero' can be used to describe people who don't carry guns you know!
    examples:
    my father is my hero, mother is as well. (self explanatory)
    the person who first combined peanut butter and chocolate is my hero. (its delicious)
    the greens-keeper at my favorite golf course is my hero (greens are always perfect)
    this man who went out in an expensive, hilarious, and harmless way is my hero. (quit with passion, without damaging property or causing injury)
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,953
    edited August 2010
    He's a twit.... without damageing property?? Must have been his slide he deployed then. Plus he was lucky no ground crew was standing there when he yanked it. Yeah,we all would like to tell off asshat customers, but this dude cracked under pressure and handled it poorly. A hero ?? No... unless your bar is set so low, Rosie O'donnel may also be your hero. Is it funny ? Yep..but I would not praise his actions as a good example to our youth.
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  • messiah
    messiah Posts: 1,790
    edited August 2010
    I understand why people like this guy. He told an a$$hole customer to F*ck off. Does that make him a hero? No. If he saved a bunch of passengers lives he would be a hero. Is he A folk hero of sorts? Hell yeah. Some disrespectful douchebag decides not to do what the flight attendant tells him to do, then hits him in the head with luggage, cutting open his forehead, and when asked for an apology, calls him a motherf#cker. If there was truly any justice in the world, he would have been able to lock the brakes, ramp up the engines, and toss said douchebag into the jet engines intake. Instead, all he did was tell the douchebag to f**k off, and went down the slip n slide. He didn't endanger anyone's life. It could have ended much worse. Who knows, this guy might be a total **** in real life, but people like him for what he did. At one point or another, everyone has wanted to tell a snotty customer to eat ****. This guy actually did it.
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited August 2010
    messiah wrote: »
    I understand why people like this guy. He told an a$$hole customer to F*ck off. Does that make him a hero? No. If he saved a bunch of passengers lives he would be a hero. Is he A folk hero of sorts? Hell yeah. Some disrespectful douchebag decides not to do what the flight attendant tells him to do, then hits him in the head with luggage, cutting open his forehead, and when asked for an apology, calls him a motherf#cker. If there was truly any justice in the world, he would have been able to lock the brakes, ramp up the engines, and toss said douchebag into the jet engines intake. Instead, all he did was tell the douchebag to f**k off, and went down the slip n slide. He didn't endanger anyone's life. It could have ended much worse. Who knows, this guy might be a total **** in real life, but people like him for what he did. At one point or another, everyone has wanted to tell a snotty customer to eat ****. This guy actually did it.

    agreed. but only if the dumbfugg personally owned said jet.

    maybe peeps who think this way will allow said douchebag to deploy your airbags because he was a passenger in YOUR car who got pissed because the jerk in the next car throws their chewed up sunflower seeds out the window and hits him square in the forehead. then that **** steals some of your soda's or brew from your trunk that you just picked up for the local beverage house and then didn't offer to pay for either the beer, nor your airbag. then if you decide to go beat the hell out of him and enter his house, the dude is caught up in some sort of funky **** sexual embrace.

    what would you do?...what would you do?

    again, as in the original story and now in my scenario, i admit i have no clue why it was added into the story.

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    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited August 2010
    BeRad wrote: »
    How the hell were peoples lives in danger?
    The guy didn't put lives in danger any more than I do while sleeping in bed.

    also: The word 'hero' can be used to describe people who don't carry guns you know!
    examples:
    my father is my hero, mother is as well. (self explanatory)
    the person who first combined peanut butter and chocolate is my hero. (its delicious)
    the greens-keeper at my favorite golf course is my hero (greens are always perfect)
    this man who went out in an expensive, hilarious, and harmless way is my hero. (quit with passion, without damaging property or causing injury)

    a more worthy example of a person being labeled a hero, though he shouldn't, is a guy who has just scored with his best friend's mom, the MILF.

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
  • messiah
    messiah Posts: 1,790
    edited August 2010
    BIZILL wrote: »
    agreed. but only if the dumbfugg personally owned said jet.

    maybe peeps who think this way will allow said douchebag to deploy your airbags because he was a passenger in YOUR car who got pissed because the jerk in the next car throws their chewed up sunflower seeds out the window and hits him square in the forehead. then that **** steals some of your soda's or brew from your trunk that you just picked up for the local beverage house and then didn't offer to pay for either the beer, nor your airbag. then if you decide to go beat the hell out of him and enter his house, the dude is caught up in some sort of funky **** sexual embrace.

    what would you do?...what would you do?

    again, as in the original story and now in my scenario, i admit i have no clue why it was added into the story.

    What would I do? Simple, I'd toss him into a jet engine's intake. Then I would go to a farm, buy a sheep, and get my sexual embrace on. Baaaaaaaa!
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited August 2010
    i hear that! Baahhhaaahhhaaa. so an old boy some time back told me that it's best to do this next to the edge of the water on a lake as the sheep tends to back away from the water.

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
  • messiah
    messiah Posts: 1,790
    edited August 2010
    water, cliff, whatever is handy.
    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
    Benjamin Franklin, February 17th, 1775.

    "The day that I have to give up my constitutional rights AND let some dude rub my junk...well, let's just say that it's gonna be a real bad day for the dude trying to rub my junk!!"
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  • doctorcilantro
    doctorcilantro Posts: 2,028
    edited August 2010
    Those escape slides are destroyed by the act of deploying them. This alone is worth at least 10 grand. The potential for injury from dozens of panicked passengers trying to leave an aircraft because the don't understand what is happening, combined with aircraft handlers on the ground unaware that there is an escape slide weighing several hundred pounds droping off the belly of this bird and that is deploys explosively like a giant airbag is enough to easily see where people can be injured....

    I have never had issue with you snow, and still don't. It would appear that we just disagree a bit on this and the other thread last night. I actually agree with your take on the other thread, but oh well. I fail to see why you needed to resort to personal attacks as you did in your prior posts.

    That's ok... I still love you!:D:cool:

    I was hoping you would post regarding this. I believe and I had this thought in the back of my mind. It is a bit strange he is being regarded as a "hero". If it were a bus driver in Phoenix in the Summer it wouldn't not be national news, and the driver would be labeled irresponsible.

    He did announce what he was doing on the PA but I know I would have been a bit panicked, at least concerned, about why the steward is leaving the plane. I'm laid back but would have been quite concerned if I was with my kids i.e. is this guy going postal?

    I understand completely how frustrated this guy must be, but he could have been a little more.....classy? I don't know, well maybe what I am thinking of isn't classy, but grab some beers and the PA, announce you quit, and cuss or call her out quickly, then just start making jokes about this lady, embarrassing the crap out of her.

    I mean the guy is in the service industry, you are going to be confronted with nasty folks. You can't just be impulsive and lash out like this. What if this had happened in the air? By that I mean, some kind of altercation with a passenger who is supposed to remain seated; not to say he would jump out etc., but how would he have vented at 40,000 feet. Hit the passenger? Then drink beer?

    I think the "hero" label speaks volumes about American society's obsession with vendetta.
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  • doctorcilantro
    doctorcilantro Posts: 2,028
    edited August 2010
    tonyb wrote: »
    He's a twit.... without damageing property?? Must have been his slide he deployed then. Plus he was lucky no ground crew was standing there when he yanked it. Yeah,we all would like to tell off asshat customers, but this dude cracked under pressure and handled it poorly. A hero ?? No... unless your bar is set so low, Rosie O'donnel may also be your hero. Is it funny ? Yep..but I would not praise his actions as a good example to our youth.

    Excellent point. I'd rather be impulsive with audio purchases, than blowing an escape hatch on the tarmac.

    This guy slides down the slip and slide with two beers and sees a ground crew employee with his head cracked open...HERO? :mad:

    He should have just done what he did, but stayed on the plane.
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  • shawn474
    shawn474 Posts: 3,047
    edited August 2010
    tonyb wrote: »
    He's a twit.... without damageing property?? Must have been his slide he deployed then. Plus he was lucky no ground crew was standing there when he yanked it. Yeah,we all would like to tell off asshat customers, but this dude cracked under pressure and handled it poorly. A hero ?? No... unless your bar is set so low, Rosie O'donnel may also be your hero. Is it funny ? Yep..but I would not praise his actions as a good example to our youth.


    Agreed 100%. This guy is getting attention for being a crybaby **** who couldn't deal with adversity at the workplace. What would happen if all of us bailed when stuff happened at work (not to mention costing the company tens of thousands of dollars while doing it)?
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,808
    edited August 2010
    This thread is mere seconds away from a Hitler/**** reference, I can feel it!

    C'mon guys! I know you can do it! BeRad already gave us that often elusive and always completely unrelated gun/gun control reference. All we need is one more of you crackpots to push your own political/religious agenda and we'll be there!

    :rolleyes:

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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited August 2010
    hmmm what he did was funny to me as yeah I always wanted to go off on the customer's like this when I was working or told I was going to hell for working at a certain place blah blah blah.

    was it a bad move and dumb of him to do so. Yes.

    I wanted to throw certain customers down slides when I was a life guard so bad after being tormented at times by them (getting pushed in when guarding a wave pool with countless people is a hazard) but I didn't because thats the whole point of the job to be good to the guest even when they are dicks to you.
  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited August 2010
    what's the newest on this card? i heard the news commenting on it on my way out the door this morn. something to the effect that he himself started the tension to begin with and even refused to serve drinks. he and his smug POS smile...

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    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited August 2010
    BIZILL wrote: »
    agreed. but only if the dumbfugg personally owned said jet.

    maybe peeps who think this way will allow said douchebag to deploy your airbags because he was a passenger in YOUR car who got pissed because the jerk in the next car throws their chewed up sunflower seeds out the window and hits him square in the forehead. then that **** steals some of your soda's or brew from your trunk that you just picked up for the local beverage house and then didn't offer to pay for either the beer, nor your airbag. then if you decide to go beat the hell out of him and enter his house, the dude is caught up in some sort of funky **** sexual embrace.

    what would you do?...what would you do?

    again, as in the original story and now in my scenario, i admit i have no clue why it was added into the story.
    Geez guys you are blowing the entire incident way out of proportion, as BeRad mentioned earlier a definition of a hero can be and is many different things. Did he single handedly whip 5 terrorists who were going to blow up the plane? No. Did he tell off the person that assulted him and quit his job in a dramatic fashion? yes. He is my personal hero for doing what millions of people have wanted to do but didnt. Is he going to pay for his behavior that wasnt heroic like grabbing the beers and deploying the chute? Yes.

    He knew full well the minute he grabbed the microphone and cussed out the lady and the company that his job was over and that he would be arrested if he waited for a normal disembarkment, his only option to get off the plane and get home before they arrested him was to deploy the chute, that is the same reason he grabbed the beers, he knew he didnt have time to stop at the store to buy a six pack.

    People are going on and on about how lives were endangered by the possibility of ground crewmen being injured, did you ever consider that he may well have looked to see if anyone was there before he did this? And maybe just maybe where this chute is located on the plane there might not be any reason for groundcrew to be there?

    It was/is a funny story about someone who just had all he could take nothing more or less. Quit being drama queens and blowing it out all proportion ;)

    The reason for the sexual embrace part of the story was to make it more sordid than it would have been otherwise and sells more papers. The only reason you are calling it funky is because you think his lover is another man, pftt who cares, as long as a man aint grabbing me were all good.
    BIZILL wrote: »
    a more worthy example of a person being labeled a hero, though he shouldn't, is a guy who has just scored with his best friend's mom, the MILF.
    My best friends mom is 93 if you think your gonna be a hero for nailing that have at her :p



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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited August 2010
    snow wrote:
    Agreed the guys a hero in my book :cool:
    snow wrote:
    He is still my Hero, the only thing he could have done that would have been better is throw the passenger down the chute.
    snow wrote:
    Is he my hero and the hero of millions of others today for these reasons? yes.
    snow wrote:
    Well im not offended, you are certainly entitled to your point of view but he's still my hero and im still getting a life size poster made up :D
    snow wrote:
    He is my personal hero for doing what millions of people have wanted to do but didnt.


    I'm going out on a limb here...but I'm guessing this guy is snow's hero.
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

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