Got offered job....opinions....

PerfectCreature
PerfectCreature Posts: 1,456
edited July 2010 in The Clubhouse
So, I got offered a job to me a senior electronics sales person at my local sears meaning I will be the sort of right hand manager in my electronics....I will have management over associates in this department and but act like I am a sales person....
I forgot to ask about pay and commission...
I currently make 8.35 at Kmart being a hard lines manager....
Should I switch over or not? I do not know what I make percent wise off each item and am not sure if I should go over to sears....
would this be a step up or step down....
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited July 2010
    Hmmm..... Hard too say since you don't know the pay and or benefits.

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  • decal
    decal Posts: 3,205
    edited July 2010
    This should be entertaining!!
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited July 2010
    PerfectCreature wrote: »
    So, I got offered a job to me a senior electronics sales person at my local sears meaning I will be the sort of right hand manager in my electronics....I will have management over associates in this department and but act like I am a sales person....
    I forgot to ask about pay and commission...
    I currently make 8.35 at Kmart being a hard lines manager....
    Should I switch over or not? I do not know what I make percent wise off each item and am not sure if I should go over to sears....
    would this be a step up or step down....
    Opinions?
    Not sure what Sears offers for pay or benefits but kmart or any other company paying $8.35 an hr for a manager of any kind should be a crime IMHO unless perhaps your living in a 3rd world country. After your burns go away you should be able to do better mowing lawns.



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    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • PerfectCreature
    PerfectCreature Posts: 1,456
    edited July 2010
    Well benefits will be the same.
    The y are both under Sears holdings corporation....so I wasn't worried about that. They said it was as simple as putting in my two weeks, and after my two weeks just working at sears my pay check will go as it did while at kmart and my discount will stay the same...I will just be working at sears wearing blue instead of red....
    Just was hoping someone maybe has worked there and has some input or what not....I plan on getting an interview tomorrow....but was hoping someone here could load me up with some info so I don't get smashed or go in all blind and stuff.
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  • PerfectCreature
    PerfectCreature Posts: 1,456
    edited July 2010
    snow wrote: »
    Not sure what Sears offers for pay or benefits but kmart or any other company paying $8.35 an hr for a manager of any kind should be a crime IMHO unless perhaps your living in a 3rd world country. After your burns go away you should be able to do better mowing lawns.



    REGARDS SNOW

    It's because we are hated...we haven't had raises in like 3 years....I got a 50 cent raise for taking manager this year and a 35 cent raise for something that I can't remember....problem is...if like minimum wage went up to like...$8 and hour....I would keep my extra 50 cent raise...kind get what I mean?
    Its really crummy....actually.
    Yeah lawn care....could be my calling ha...
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited July 2010
    PerfectCreature wrote: »
    Well benefits will be the same.
    The y are both under Sears holdings corporation....so I wasn't worried about that. They said it was as simple as putting in my two weeks, and after my two weeks just working at sears my pay check will go as it did while at kmart and my discount will stay the same...I will just be working at sears wearing blue instead of red....
    Just was hoping someone maybe has worked there and has some input or what not....I plan on getting an interview tomorrow....but was hoping someone here could load me up with some info so I don't get smashed or go in all blind and stuff.
    I know at my local sears sales associates work strictly on commission so that means if you spent an hour trying to sell someone a $49.95 cordless phone you would make approx 73 cents for your efforts, maybe the homeless beggars have the right idea after all :p I could understand a very low base wage if the average commissions were high enough but it's sounding like to me to be a dead end job.

    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited July 2010
    snow wrote: »
    Not sure what Sears offers for pay or benefits but kmart or any other company paying $8.35 an hr for a manager of any kind should be a crime IMHO unless perhaps your living in a 3rd world country. After your burns go away you should be able to do better mowing lawns.



    REGARDS SNOW
    +1,000,000. This is imply abusive, even a simple worker should get better than that :confused:
    PerfectCreature wrote: »
    It's because we are hated...we haven't had raises in like 3 years....I got a 50 cent raise for taking manager this year and a 35 cent raise for something that I can't remember....problem is...if like minimum wage went up to like...$8 and hour....I would keep my extra 50 cent raise...kind get what I mean?
    Its really crummy....actually.
    Yeah lawn care....could be my calling ha...
    Time to move on, unless you think you are not worth more than that? How much abuse can you take? Make sure you know exactly what Sears pay before you move their, you don't want to trade 4 quarters for a loony. Do your homework and get acquainted with a manager pay rate before you meet with Sears.
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  • joeparaski
    joeparaski Posts: 1,865
    edited July 2010
    Errrr Technokid....they're American, remember? Most don't know what a "loony" is.

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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited July 2010
    joeparaski wrote: »
    Errrr Technokid....they're American, remember? Most don't know what a "loony" is.

    Joe
    Sure we do its a term for someone mad enough to work for Sears obviously :D

    JK its a dollar coin with a loon on it. :)

    I understand you need a job and im happy your working but I would be making plans to do something else real soon.

    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited July 2010
    I was making that much as a loss control manager 14 years ago.
    joeparaski wrote: »
    Errrr Technokid....they're American, remember? Most don't know what a "loony" is.

    Joe
    Eh?
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited July 2010
    Face wrote: »
    Eh?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_dollar
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited July 2010
    Snip... Snip... Snip... don't know what happened :confused:
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited July 2010
    joeparaski wrote: »
    Errrr Technokid....they're American, remember? Most don't know what a "loony" is.

    Joe
    I guess google is every countries friend right ;) Nothing wrong having someone to do a little search but OK, here is the freebee :D

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loonie

    One problem, Canadian $ is still of lower value than US $ so PC, you might want to ask for even more $$$$$ if considering Canuck $$$$$$$$$$ ;)
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  • bigaudiofanatic
    bigaudiofanatic Posts: 4,415
    edited July 2010
    Use to work for sear in the electronics. Do not take it, you work on commission you get hammared to sell the warranties and if someone returns something you lose that commission so you could walk in already in the negatives.

    You also get bonuses for selling this product over this one and bla bla bla. I honestly hated it. Just my outlook on it working for them for 8 months. Than left.
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  • LessisNevermore
    LessisNevermore Posts: 1,519
    edited July 2010
    joeparaski wrote: »
    Errrr Technokid....they're American, remember? Most don't know what a "loony" is.

    Joe


    It's a Canadian right?:p:D

    PC, if they are paying a manager those kind of wages, how far up can it possibly go? I know jobs don't grow on trees, but if you enjoy electronic sales, bide your time for a while and get a couple years under your belt as a manager. It will look much better to your next employer, and make you worth more from the get go.

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  • bigaudiofanatic
    bigaudiofanatic Posts: 4,415
    edited July 2010
    snow wrote: »
    I know at my local sears sales associates work strictly on commission so that means if you spent an hour trying to sell someone a $49.95 cordless phone you would make approx 73 cents for your efforts, maybe the homeless beggars have the right idea after all :p I could understand a very low base wage if the average commissions were high enough but it's sounding like to me to be a dead end job.

    REGARDS SNOW

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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited July 2010
    Face wrote: »
    I was making that much as a loss control manager 14 years ago.


    Eh?
    Just got off unemployment (sick leave) and was paid more than that however, the only problem is I was paid in Canuck loonie so maybe I was getting roughly what PC presently get :confused:

    Joe, are you saying there is no loony in the US but only in Canada :D
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  • PerfectCreature
    PerfectCreature Posts: 1,456
    edited July 2010
    Yeah, I honestly have no clue what the pay is. My job is just boring as of late, they have made so many changes lately it has turned me off of a job I once loved to do.
    SO fare the changes went from our own store making the schedule to a computer doing it based in scores from compiance reviews, and quizes on information talked about during videos we have watched.
    Our break system has changed as well...we used to get the best breaks anywhere you went
    This is how my 8 hour day would go.
    Work 2 hours, 15 minute break....work 2 hours...1 hour lunch work 2 hours 15 minute break....then work the rest of what was left.... for my 8 hour day.
    No we get a 15minute break and a half hour lunch for an 8 hour day....
    All thanks to corporate. Plus we are a smaller store and live in a small area but are still compared to much larger areas like ones in say a huge city like New York.
    I am always getting yelled at for my associates not meeting quotas that these other stores hammer out of the park, and have almost lost my job twice because of it.
    I mean, I wouldn't mind staying....but if something better came along, I wouldn't miss going....You know...?
    I have 2 years as a cashier as kmart and almost a year as a manager...so that's about 3 years with the company. Hardly any raises at all.
    I don't know if it is just strait commission...I will walk away and never look back. But if you make like minimum wage and commission I wouldn't care much I guess....I am a pretty decent sales person...

    Oh, looked around and I have a some loonies and a couple 2 dollar coins from my last trip to canada....ha...I can really just spit on my lawn and it will land in canada, I practically live on the border.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited July 2010
    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    +1,000,000. This is imply abusive, even a simple worker should get better than that :confused:

    Why?
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,384
    edited July 2010
    Unemployment pays better and has better benefits these day.:rolleyes:
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  • PerfectCreature
    PerfectCreature Posts: 1,456
    edited July 2010
    Stores don't have to pay more than minimum wage, even though minimum wage is considered poverty.
    If you take in consideration average minimum wage, and average bills, what you have left is below the poverty level.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited July 2010
    PerfectCreature wrote: »
    Yeah, I honestly have no clue what the pay is. My job is just boring as of late, they have made so many changes lately it has turned me off of a job I once loved to do.
    SO fare the changes went from our own store making the schedule to a computer doing it based in scores from compiance reviews, and quizes on information talked about during videos we have watched.
    Our break system has changed as well...we used to get the best breaks anywhere you went
    This is how my 8 hour day would go.
    Work 2 hours, 15 minute break....work 2 hours...1 hour lunch work 2 hours 15 minute break....then work the rest of what was left.... for my 8 hour day.
    No we get a 15minute break and a half hour lunch for an 8 hour day....
    All thanks to corporate. Plus we are a smaller store and live in a small area but are still compared to much larger areas like ones in say a huge city like New York.
    I am always getting yelled at for my associates not meeting quotas that these other stores hammer out of the park, and have almost lost my job twice because of it.
    I mean, I wouldn't mind staying....but if something better came along, I wouldn't miss going....You know...?
    I have 2 years as a cashier as kmart and almost a year as a manager...so that's about 3 years with the company. Hardly any raises at all.
    I don't know if it is just strait commission...I will walk away and never look back. But if you make like minimum wage and commission I wouldn't care much I guess....I am a pretty decent sales person...

    Oh, looked around and I have a some loonies and a couple 2 dollar coins from my last trip to canada....ha...I can really just spit on my lawn and it will land in canada, I practically live on the border.
    You don't take a manger's position at minimum wage. As strickly a sale person, I could see minmum wage combined with healthy commission on what you sell but mannager's position at minimum wage :confused::confused: Get a real job PC ;)
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited July 2010
    Dude....go back to school.....
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  • PerfectCreature
    PerfectCreature Posts: 1,456
    edited July 2010
    Yeah, I was wondering the same thing to....
    I dunno, I will go ahead maybe fill it out go in and see what the pay is before I go any further...
    I just hate to down grade from what I am now.
    I mean I get 25 hours almost steady every week and I am part time...I make almost 200 a week all said and done...but with bills and food and college its just not really enough....
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited July 2010
    PerfectCreature wrote: »
    Yeah, I was wondering the same thing to....
    I dunno, I will go ahead maybe fill it out go in and see what the pay is before I go any further...
    I just hate to down grade from what I am now.
    I mean I get 25 hours almost steady every week and I am part time...I make almost 200 a week all said and done...but with bills and food and college its just not really enough....

    My point exactly, take the job or stay where your at but go back to school, even if its just to get an associates degree in electronics or whatever, it opens up a whole new world of opportunity to you. You will thank yourself 5 years from now.
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  • bigaudiofanatic
    bigaudiofanatic Posts: 4,415
    edited July 2010
    Go to school or back. I did and I waited 3 years after high school "not sure how old you are"
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  • PerfectCreature
    PerfectCreature Posts: 1,456
    edited July 2010
    Well, I currently have earned half of my degree, I have 2 years done in Criminal Justice. Another 2-3 years left depending on how many summer classes I can take next summer. So I am in school, its just living in such a small area jobs are few and far between, and pay is even worse. I talked with a guy who has my job in a larger city in Iowa, and he gets paid almost twice as much as I do and has his own office...I was like...WHAT?!!
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited July 2010
    bigaudiofanatic wrote: »
    Go to school or back. I did and I waited 3 years after high school "not sure how old you are"

    44, I have a bachelors degree in computer electronics, been working for the same co. for 20 years. What does "go to school or back" mean anyways?
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited July 2010
    Knucklehead wrote: »
    What does "go to school or back" mean anyways?
    It means he never finished school either.
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited July 2010
    Face wrote: »
    It means he never finished school either.

    I was kinda thinking the same thing....too much time wondering if your going to work for K-Mart or Sears, not saying there is anything wrong with working for them but hopefully these employers are just a stepping stone.
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