Bench pressed 435lbs twice this morning....

lightman1

Pu$$ies. I can carry a 50kva transformer with my teeth whilst climbing a pole. Then set and wire that sumbit*h during a windstorm. me: 190lbs Tx: 460lbs.

hearingimpared

Well my personal best over the years was 322! I wouldn't even think about anything in four hundred mark no matter how much I worked out.

I know what you mean by getting old though. I was entering some Medicare claims in a billing app for my cousin who's a poditrist and I turned my neck to the right and down and got the biggest damned kink in my neck that shot up to my jaw! :mad: I would rather be old than the alternative though!:D

You must be one built and powerful dude!:eek:

Ric5811

Hawkeye wrote: »

Strain a neck shaving, I can believe it! I got up one morning several years ago and as I was standing in front of the pot doing my thing, I reached back to scratch my back. Bad move! I wrenched my back and proceeded to spray all over the the place as I fell to the floor!:o Cracked my head on the shower on the way down. So there I was, leaking all over the place, bleeding from a cut in my head and my back screaming! What does my wife say? Gordon, you're making an awful lot of noise, you're going to wake the kids!! All I could say was, ugh!

Lift weights? You've got to be kidding! I can't go to the john without getting hurt!! And that ain't lifing much:D:D

Gordon

OMFG, gotta explain to the boss why soda is all over the screen now!

hearingimpared

lightman1 wrote: »

Pu$$ies. I can carry a 50kva transformer with my teeth whilst climbing a pole. Then set and wire that sumbit*h during a windstorm. me: 190lbs Tx: 460lbs.

Shut up Russ!:p

ohskigod

yeah, age is a ****. my days of putting up over 4 are long over man, i aint ripping my shoulders up. late 2's early 3's for 10 - 15 reps keep my chest in fighting trim just fine.

bench is a funny thing, sure its non **** way to compare manly stuff (as opposed to hanging pork and comparing) but it is somewhat meaningless. I've seen guys bench mad weight that that have the punching power of a gnat. My Dad couldn't bench to save his life but punched like a freight train. bench is just bench, applying it to other skills is a different ballgame.

Jstas

ohskigod wrote: »

yeah, age is a ****. my days of putting up over 4 are long over man, i aint ripping my shoulders up. late 2's early 3's for 10 - 15 reps keep my chest in fighting trim just fine.

bench is a funny thing, sure its non **** way to compare manly stuff (as opposed to hanging pork and comparing) but it is somewhat meaningless. I've seen guys bench mad weight that that have the punching power of a gnat. My Dad couldn't bench to save his life but punched like a freight train. bench is just bench, applying it to other skills is a different ballgame.

Watch UFC. It'll show you that size doesn't matter.

hearingimpared

Jstas wrote: »

Watch UFC. It'll show you that size doesn't matter.

That's a fact Jack! In my younger more foolish days, I could take down some big dudes but the worst beating I ever took was from a guy that was 5' 6" tall.:eek:

cfrizz

ohskigod wrote: »

bench is a funny thing, sure its non **** way to compare manly stuff (as opposed to hanging pork and comparing) but it is somewhat meaningless. I've seen guys bench mad weight that that have the punching power of a gnat. My Dad couldn't bench to save his life but punched like a freight train. bench is just bench, applying it to other skills is a different ballgame.

My trainer says pretty much the same thing. He says guys are all about how much they can lift, and don't bother with anything else. He told me after a workout one day that if he had done to some of his male trainees what he had just done to me, they couldn't have done it.

My workout consisted of 20 mins of bike, 30lb ezcurl bar for 15, 2 mins of bike, 30lb ezcurl bar for 15, 2 mins of bike, 30lb ezcurl bar for 15 2 mins of bike. 60lb chest press machine for 15, 2 mins of bike, 60lb chest press machine for 15, 2 mins of bike, 60lb chest press machine for 15, 2 mins of bike, also some 10lb dumb bells, 80lb rower machine & the killer for me 10lb shoulder press machine for a total upper body workout, I maintained a speed of 60rpm on the bike.

I was like oh come on, they would whip me in the weight dept! He said yes they would, but they would keel over when they went to jump on the bike in between each set of weights!:eek: Needless to say I laughed. If I could have moved comfortably the next day I would have tracked his butt down to KILL HIM but that would have hurt too much!

He said he usually has to shame the guys into remembering that there is more to staying fit then weight lifting.:D

MacLeod

Jstas wrote: »

Watch UFC. It'll show you that size doesn't matter.

Well actually that show you size DOES matter. They have the fighters classified by weight just for that reason.

Royce Gracie was whooping everybody with his superior techinque til he ran up on a 240 pound weightlifter named Kimo. Kimo had little grappling skill but was able to nearly beat Royce with strength alone. And even though Royce eventually submitted him, he was so beat up he couldn't continue.

I'm not saying size/strength is all that is needed, but it certainly goes a looooong way and definitely matters especially in a bar or street fight that usually goes instantly into grappling.

JimKellyfan

Dang, I have trouble curling my 15 pound weight.
It really has been a long time for me, I am three weeks back in ( with any weights since the early 90's ) after a long absence from anything remotely healthy in my lifestyle.
After a new hip, I am starting to come around, albeit slowly.
Lift every day, just the top half, as the bottom half is simple stretches still for now.
Good to hear though.
I used to be able to leg press the whole stack.
Soon, I will start my boxing with that 15 pound weight, maybe another couple weeks.
Getting old does kinda suck, but it does definitely beat the alternative ;>)
Keep up the good work, and stay healthy y'all/youse guys/yooz guyz

Jstas

MacLeod wrote: »

Well actually that show you size DOES matter. They have the fighters classified by weight just for that reason.

Royce Gracie was whooping everybody with his superior techinque til he ran up on a 240 pound weightlifter named Kimo. Kimo had little grappling skill but was able to nearly beat Royce with strength alone. And even though Royce eventually submitted him, he was so beat up he couldn't continue.

I'm not saying size/strength is all that is needed, but it certainly goes a looooong way and definitely matters especially in a bar or street fight that usually goes instantly into grappling.

A win is a win, doesn't matter how ugly it was.

Size doesn't matter. Conditioning does.

MacLeod

Royce was the far superior fighter but still nearly got beat by somebody that was simply bigger and stronger. Trust me dude, Ive been a bouncer off and on for 15 years including a 2 year stint in a Texas Army town. Size matters bigtime. Real street fights dont start out with one guy in each corner then they approach and circle each other slowly with a jab here and there. Its starts out nose to nose and is usually in a small area so it goes to grappling immediately.

Again, Im not saying that the bigger guy will always win cause anybody can get a lucky punch in. It only takes on shot to the jaw or temple and youre out, no matter how big you are. But if you dont get that lucky punch in before the bigger guy grabs you, its usually over. Just like Royce and Kimo. Royce was a 185 pound master at grappling. Kimo was a 240 pound weightlifter. And again, they classify boxers, wrestlers and MMA fighters by weight because size matters. If it didnt, they wouldnt need weight classes.

Jstas

Um, no. The UFC was forced to add weight classes by sanctioning bodies, promoters and state gaming commissions because they felt the violence was too gory.

I've also never been in a fight where I needed a "lucky punch". I rarely throw punches because they hurt my hands. I've taken many punches and have yet to have been knocked out. Not that I'm looking for the experience, mind you. I've had guys much larger than me pinned to the ground with their arm behind there back or in a "sleeper hold" so tight their head turned blue and multiple people had to pull me off. I've used bartops, walls, cars hoods, doors and the ground as weapons. In a "street fight" there are no rules, there are no holds barred. You come at me, I'm going to defend myself and if that means that you don't get up then so be it. That's the proverbial "you" by the way, not you specifically so don't get your panties in a bunch.

You keep comparing a "street fight" to a sanctioned fight and in both, I don't care how much of a macho weight lifter you are, a hard kick to the front of the knee, you're on the ground with a knee bending the wrong way and some small guy with a grip like a python is trying to pop your head off your shoulders and all you could do was think "Hulk smash!" It's all about conditioning. The little guy goes for a weakness to capitalize on it once it's exploited. The big guy wants to grab and smash and that just doesn't always work. A trained fighter can take down any muscle bound strong man no matter how tough he thinks he is. And a bouncer, sorry but a drunk opponent is no match for several bouncers ganging up on one person. I wouldn't even qualify that as a "fight".

Vette C6.r

I just did a 12 oz curl.

It's a good F1 race.

hearingimpared

Jstas wrote: »

Um, no. The UFC was forced to add weight classes by sanctioning bodies, promoters and state gaming commissions because they felt the violence was too gory.

I've also never been in a fight where I needed a "lucky punch". I rarely throw punches because they hurt my hands. I've taken many punches and have yet to have been knocked out. Not that I'm looking for the experience, mind you. I've had guys much larger than me pinned to the ground with their arm behind there back or in a "sleeper hold" so tight their head turned blue and multiple people had to pull me off. I've used bartops, walls, cars hoods, doors and the ground as weapons. In a "street fight" there are no rules, there are no holds barred. You come at me, I'm going to defend myself and if that means that you don't get up then so be it. That's the proverbial "you" by the way, not you specifically so don't get your panties in a bunch.

You keep comparing a "street fight" to a sanctioned fight and in both, I don't care how much of a macho weight lifter you are, a hard kick to the front of the knee, you're on the ground with a knee bending the wrong way and some small guy with a grip like a python is trying to pop your head off your shoulders and all you could do was think "Hulk smash!" It's all about conditioning. The little guy goes for a weakness to capitalize on it once it's exploited. The big guy wants to grab and smash and that just doesn't always work. A trained fighter can take down any muscle bound strong man no matter how tough he thinks he is. And a bouncer, sorry but a drunk opponent is no match for several bouncers ganging up on one person. I wouldn't even qualify that as a "fight".

The bolded part is the thing guys. It's the ferocity of the combatant and willingness to do anything necessary that wins street brawls and barroom brawls. Like I said before, I've taken down guys that were much, much bigger than me using ferocity and of course I was in great shape back then and had a lot of boxing skills but nothing will drop an opponent faster than a thumb or finger in the eye, a good grip on the nuts, a chop or grap of the adams apple or a well placed kick to the knee caps or a bite on the nose or check.

Hahaha, I remember a few times where I got hit by a dude and thought to myself, "oh man this guy really hurt me to the core," then went off on an adrenaline surge to put him down.

Boy I am glad those days are over; I can feel the old battle scars flaring up!:eek::D

wz2p7j

I was more a hockey style fighter. Grab 'em by the shirt with left hand with a death grip and just start whaling away with the right arm. Usually the other guy just wants to get away from you. But that was a long, long time ago.

Chris

MacLeod

Jstas wrote: »

I don't care how much of a macho weight lifter you are, a hard kick to the front of the knee, you're on the ground with a knee bending the wrong way and some small guy with a grip like a python is trying to pop your head off your shoulders and all you could do was think "Hulk smash!" It's all about conditioning. The little guy goes for a weakness to capitalize on it once it's exploited. The big guy wants to grab and smash and that just doesn't always work. A trained fighter can take down any muscle bound strong man no matter how tough he thinks he is. And a bouncer, sorry but a drunk opponent is no match for several bouncers ganging up on one person. I wouldn't even qualify that as a "fight".

Oh yeah, the old "smash their knee and theyll go down" theory. You realize how hard that is in a real fight? Ill give you $1000 if you can smash my knee in a fight. Not saying its impossible, just pretty damn close. Im not gonna be standing there straight legged while you haul off. Im gonna be moving, most likely into you so you. So youve got a bent knee moving around with forward momentum. Even Austin Power's couldnt judo chop that backwards. I suppose it all the stars aligned and you hit just right in the right spot and at the right time it could happen but thats a whole lotta "ifs". Plus you gotta take into account adrenaline. Ive been hit square in the balls before in the middle of a brawl and it didnt phase me. Afterwards it sure did but during the fight you dont feel much.

The old sleeper hold is a load of crap too in a real fight. You try to choke me out and I cant get out of it, I aint above gouging eyes, grabbing a handful of testicles or even biting. I aint skeered. Ill fight like a girl.

A trained fighter can take down MOST muscle bound men. It depends on what we're talking about. A 185 pounder could easily handle a 205 pounder. But now you get a 150 pounder up against a 250 pounder and its a whole other ballgame.

Again, Im not saying the bigger guy will always win. All Im saying is that size is extremely important. If I had to break it down, Id put it like this:

50% skill/technique
40% size/strenght
10% conditioning

Obviously the ideal is to have both. You get a big strong buy that has great skill and youve got the makings for the baddest dude on the planet. Fedor for example.

Poee7R

Im a 6'2 300lb ninja.

PREPARE TO DIE!


Dave

bdaley6509

LOL...this thread was more about the trials and tribulations of growing old, but....
Still entertaining, however.

hearingimpared

bdaley6509 wrote: »

LOL...this thread was more about the trials and tribulations of growing old, but....
Still entertaining, however.

Hehehe, only oldhead reminisce about the glory days of brawling!:D

Jstas

MacLeod wrote: »

Oh yeah, the old "smash their knee and theyll go down" theory. You realize how hard that is in a real fight? Ill give you $1000 if you can smash my knee in a fight. Not saying its impossible, just pretty damn close. Im not gonna be standing there straight legged while you haul off. Im gonna be moving, most likely into you so you. So youve got a bent knee moving around with forward momentum. Even Austin Power's couldnt judo chop that backwards. I suppose it all the stars aligned and you hit just right in the right spot and at the right time it could happen but thats a whole lotta "ifs". Plus you gotta take into account adrenaline. Ive been hit square in the balls before in the middle of a brawl and it didnt phase me. Afterwards it sure did but during the fight you dont feel much.

The old sleeper hold is a load of crap too in a real fight. You try to choke me out and I cant get out of it, I aint above gouging eyes, grabbing a handful of testicles or even biting. I aint skeered. Ill fight like a girl.

A trained fighter can take down MOST muscle bound men. It depends on what we're talking about. A 185 pounder could easily handle a 205 pounder. But now you get a 150 pounder up against a 250 pounder and its a whole other ballgame.

Again, Im not saying the bigger guy will always win. All Im saying is that size is extremely important. If I had to break it down, Id put it like this:

50% skill/technique
40% size/strenght
10% conditioning

Obviously the ideal is to have both. You get a big strong buy that has great skill and youve got the makings for the baddest dude on the planet. Fedor for example.

:rolleyes:

Sure, whatever you say.

Jstas

hearingimpared wrote: »

Hehehe, only oldhead reminisce about the glory days of brawling!:D

Fighting sucks. Makes everything hurt and the cops always hassle you. I got so many stories or bar fights or fights at a concert because some guy thought I was staring at his girl or something equally stupid that I don't care to reminisce. It's pathetic when a person has to resort to a "Hulk smash!" mentality to assert themselves.

I mean, I got in to a fight with a guy at a bar once because I won the trivia contest and he couldn't even beat me while using his cellphone and the Internet. Fighting is for douches. If you can't use your head for more than a hat rack and prefer to use your fists to talk then you deserve everything you get.

BTW, can't get your butt kicked if you avoid the fight to begin with.

ohskigod

Jstas wrote: »

BTW, can't get your butt kicked if you avoid the fight to begin with.

ding....winnah!

takes time to learn that though, we were all young and stupid at some point

Jstas

ohskigod wrote: »

ding....winnah!

takes time to learn that though, we were all young and stupid at some point

Some folks never grow out of that stage.

wz2p7j

ohskigod wrote: »

ding....winnah!

takes time to learn that though, we were all young and stupid at some point

Now I'm just old and stupid. But I don't get into fights any more. :p

Chris

cfrizz

Neanderthals!:p

A REAL man doesn't have to go around constantly proving he's a man.

Eventually they all end up like you, nursing aches & pains for the rest of your lives for the stupidity of your youth!

Was it worth it? Think carefully while you pop another advil!:D

hearingimpared

Jstas wrote: »

Some folks never grow out of that stage.

Some folks grow out of that stage because they get old!:D

I gotta say though, that I taught my older son from when he was a little boy that it takes more a man to walk away from or talk oneself out of a fight than it does to just let them fly. He's taken that advice seriously I'm proud to say.

He's a strong, well built kid that does these intense workouts (I forget what they are called but Darla mentioned it once here) and lifts. When he was in Ireland, he and his buddy were at a pub. His buddy went out to the car for something and found this guy beating all hell out of his girl friend. His buddy tried to stop the beating and he got jumped. My son came out and tried to pull the guys off his friend and it seemed to calm down. Out of nowhere, and I quote," this drunken fat 300 lb goof snuck me, I didn't even flinch, I just looked at him and said, 'don't make me hurt you, your drunk' the guy was so shocked that he didn't floor me that he just cursed and walked away!"

I taught him well and I was proud to hear that he did that but I gotta tell you he's a better man than I was at his age. I'm teaching the little guy the same thing. Really all I gotta do is show him the scars and aches like Cathy said and he gets the point. He at 13 doesn't seem to be a brawler and for that I am thankful.

hearingimpared

cfrizz wrote: »

Neanderthals!:p

A REAL man doesn't have to go around constantly proving he's a man.

Eventually they all end up like you, nursing aches & pains for the rest of your lives for the drunken stupidity of your youth!

Was it worth it? Think carefully while you pop another advil!:D

Fixed!:o:D

I'm feeling more of the years of football I played. Some days I'm reminded of each hit!:eek:

wz2p7j

cfrizz wrote: »

Neanderthals!:p

A REAL man doesn't have to go around constantly proving he's a man.

Eventually they all end up like you, nursing aches & pains for the rest of your lives for the stupidity of your youth!

Was it worth it? Think carefully while you pop another advil!:D

With all this Neanderthal talk and benching 400 pounds and bar room fights and such, guess who shows up? Our favorite audiophilette!! :p

Cathy, glad your here. :D

Chris

decal

Bench pressed 435lbs twice this morning....

Should I be impressed that you can or embarrassed that I can't