BP spills coffee

danger boy

watch the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AAa0gd7ClM

exalted512

that is AWESOME.
-Cody

exalted512

oh, and

audiobliss

lol!!

JimKellyfan

exalted512 wrote: »

oh, and

so that's what Costner was reading too much of

i stopped going to BP myself

j allen

Lol!!

comfortablycurt

lol It's amazing how close that is to the actual situation...that's the funniest part.


So, is anyone else participating in National BP Protest Day this Saturday?

My brother and I have organized a protest at one of our local BP stations this Saturday, from 10-2. People need to start understanding the real magnitude of what's actually going on right now. The fact that people are still actually buying gas from BP astonishes me. I will say though, that our local BP stations haven't been getting as much business lately, as they have in past.

My brother is actually doing a radio interview tomorrow on one of our bigger local stations, to talk about the protest and the spill. We've also already received word that there are going to be reporters at our protest, and potentially news crews as well.

So, anyone else getting involved?

j allen

I've been actively avoiding them lately, even though they're the only convenient gas station on my way to work. That's about all I can do with the work schedule I've been getting lately, but once things calm down at work, we'll see.

Face

I haven't been to one in years.

hearingimpared

Waaaaaaaaaaahahahaaha!!!!

comfortablycurt

Whoooo!!!

I just got off the phone with my brother, and he told me that he's spoken with a reporter from NPR!!! They're going to be at our rally interviewing, and we'll be broadcast on NPR!! It's all coming together now.:D

We've gotta show our support for our Mother Earth. There are rallies going on at BP's across the world this Saturday. I'd strongly encourage everyone to get out there, and show some love for Mother Earth!

disneyjoe7

That's funny as it's being true.

bobman1235

COnsidering the way gas stations work, I do kind of feel bad for the individual owners of BP stations. They obviously have nothing to do with their corporations blatant idiocy, and yet they're going ot get he brunt of the backlash.

concealer404

Yeah... i won't boycott a station. You think they make a profit off the gas? Not really. They make their profit off the stuff inside the store. The gas is just more of a lure than anything.

I'll keep going to the mom and pop station despite the fact that they carry BP gas. Of course, it's also the station with 93 octane closest to me, so i wasn't about to picket them anyways.

amulford

What is so sad is that is pretty much true. I wonder if anyone realizes that the only real reason this hasn't been stopped yet is they are trying to figure out how to recapture it.

Don't tell me about how deep it is. They can place a drill 5000 feet down within a a meter of where they want it. They can do the same with a plug...

bdaley6509

amulford wrote: »

What is so sad is that is pretty much true. I wonder if anyone realizes that the only real reason this hasn't been stopped yet is they are trying to figure out how to recapture it.

Don't tell me about how deep it is. They can place a drill 5000 feet down within a a meter of where they want it. They can do the same with a plug...

+1...I agree.

Serendipity

concealer404 wrote: »

Yeah... i won't boycott a station. You think they make a profit off the gas? Not really. They make their profit off the stuff inside the store. The gas is just more of a lure than anything.

I'll keep going to the mom and pop station despite the fact that they carry BP gas. Of course, it's also the station with 93 octane closest to me, so i wasn't about to picket them anyways.

I would still buy a hot dog or bag of chips from a BP station, but not their gas.

hearingimpared

Serendipity wrote: »

I would still buy a hot dog or bag of chips from a BP station, but not their gas.

Why punish an independent gas station owner for what is deemed to be the big boy's problem?

It's not like boycotting Shell oil because it is owned on a 50/50 platform with the Saudi Arabian government.

doctorcilantro

Aren't BP stations locally owned? Heard that but never checked it out.

That said, I think criminal prosecution is highly warranted.

comfortablycurt wrote: »

lol It's amazing how close that is to the actual situation...that's the funniest part.


So, is anyone else participating in National BP Protest Day this Saturday?

My brother and I have organized a protest at one of our local BP stations this Saturday, from 10-2. People need to start understanding the real magnitude of what's actually going on right now. The fact that people are still actually buying gas from BP astonishes me. I will say though, that our local BP stations haven't been getting as much business lately, as they have in past.

My brother is actually doing a radio interview tomorrow on one of our bigger local stations, to talk about the protest and the spill. We've also already received word that there are going to be reporters at our protest, and potentially news crews as well.

So, anyone else getting involved?

hearingimpared

comfortablycurt wrote: »

lol It's amazing how close that is to the actual situation...that's the funniest part.


So, is anyone else participating in National BP Protest Day this Saturday?

My brother and I have organized a protest at one of our local BP stations this Saturday, from 10-2. People need to start understanding the real magnitude of what's actually going on right now. The fact that people are still actually buying gas from BP astonishes me. I will say though, that our local BP stations haven't been getting as much business lately, as they have in past.

My brother is actually doing a radio interview tomorrow on one of our bigger local stations, to talk about the protest and the spill. We've also already received word that there are going to be reporters at our protest, and potentially news crews as well.

So, anyone else getting involved?

Curt, why punish independant service station owner because thier corporate fools have screwed up? The owner of the station is going to suffer, it won't put a dent in BP.

Lil'Abbey

hearingimpared wrote: »

Curt, why punish independant service station owner because thier corporate fools have screwed up? The owner of the station is going to suffer, it won't put a dent in BP.

Interesting how the proffered justification for the American public to essentially do nothing is to "protect the little guy" (and that's not a slam on you, BTW. BP is already taking that tack); it's as if the small business owners who stand to be hurt by their parent company's malfeasance, and the Americans who own 40% of their stock are effectively serving as tiny human shields. Yes, some Americans may be hurt financially. That's the inevitable consequence; hundreds of thousands of people are already paying the price for this disaster, and if more are hurt in the process of putting this company back on course, then so be it. The alternative cost of turning a blind eye to their negligence is, as we're learning day by day, too much to bear.

There are no easy answers in a situation like this, but there are right and wrong ones. The right one changes the offender's behavior, or eliminates or reduces their capacity to reoffend.

exalted512

question:

i must have missed something because i keep hearing the 'throw a golf ball' at it thing...and i have no idea what theyre referring to?
-Cody

hearingimpared

Lil'Abbey wrote: »

Interesting how the proffered justification for the American public to essentially do nothing is to "protect the little guy" (and that's not a slam on you, BTW. BP is already taking that tack); it's as if the small business owners who stand to be hurt by their parent company's malfeasance, and the Americans who own 40% of their stock are effectively serving as tiny human shields. Yes, some Americans may be hurt financially. That's the inevitable consequence; hundreds of thousands of people are already paying the price for this disaster, and if more are hurt in the process of putting this company back on course, then so be it. The alternative cost of turning a blind eye to their negligence is, as we're learning day by day, too much to bear.

There are no easy answers in a situation like this, but there are right and wrong ones. The right one changes the offender's behavior, or eliminates or reduces their capacity to reoffend.

Agreed! and I'm not one to sit on my butt and do nothing about things I can do something about, but if something is to be done in protest form it should be done at BP Corporate centers. Again why kill the independant gas station owner.

Kex

exalted512 wrote: »

question:

i must have missed something because i keep hearing the 'throw a golf ball' at it thing...and i have no idea what theyre referring to?
-Cody

It's a joke about the so-called "junk shot", that was intended to slow the flow (junk, including golf balls and other things, gets injected into the pipe instead of drilling mud, hoping to partially block the leaky hole).

Kex

There are no BP stations near where I live, so I have nothing to boycott, but to consider this is a uniquely BP failure is incredibly naive IMO. BOP's will fail. It does happen. It has happened before. It will happen again.

Why are we drilling so deep when there was no procedure in place in case of a BOP failure (political guys, please don't bother to answer)? What we need are resources to act effectively in the case of a BOP failure in deep waters, and this is an issue for every single deep water rig in the Gulf, without exception, not just BP. We should not be inventing this as we go along at this point.

Does anyone honestly think that Chevron or Exxon or whatever other oil company could have fixed a BOP failure any better? And don't try to tell me that BP has a worse safety violations record (which it does, AFIK). All industry analysts seem to agree that a BOP is never going to be 100% reliable at this depth, under any circumstances. How about some perspective here, and some more in-depth reporting about the real issues from the media, not just sensation seeking?

Curt, best of luck with your protest nonetheless!

concealer404

Serendipity wrote: »

I would still buy a hot dog or bag of chips from a BP station, but not their gas.

That's the point... nobody really just goes into a gas station to get a hot dog, or a bag of chips. That's what fast food places or the grocery store are there for. That stuff is there for you to notice and then buy when you go inside to pay for your gas.

Or when you pump your gas, and notice the sign for a $2 hot dog and think "Damn, that sounds good right now."

The gas is merely a lure for you to buy the stuff that they actually make a profit on.

Without the gas, the stations go under.

concealer404

Lil'Abbey wrote: »

There are no easy answers in a situation like this, but there are right and wrong ones. The right one changes the offender's behavior, or eliminates or reduces their capacity to reoffend.

The right one also screws the people that supply you personally with the fuel/service.


So you're telling me that if you owned a gas station that carried BP gas, you'd shut off all the pumps and let your station, livelyhood, and all income just go away?

It's all good to say what you'd do, until you're actually the "little guy" and have to realize that you're getting completely screwed for something that you didn't do, had no control over, and have no way to fix it. You're the one being held accountable for other's actions.

There's no real "right" or "wrong" choice here. But boycotting BP supplied gas stations is certainly not right. You think you'll get enough people to boycott that BP will notice? Nope. Especially considering the other brands that they sell under. The only people that will notice will be mom and pop who run that station and have spent their lives doing so in hopes of retiring sometime before they're 80.

Big Brother is at least as much to blame here, as is the company that BP was RENTING the rig from. How are you going to boycott them and affect them? You won't. Because you can't.

I'm not saying just to roll over, but miscplacing your anger is far worse (at least in my opinion) and affecting those who shouldn't be affected, is worse than just rolling over.

You want to make a difference? Go volunteer to clean up the oil.

concealer404

Curt, for the record, i support the protest, just realize that there's a very fine line where you stop doing anything productive, and start to ruin someone's life who isn't even related to the problem.

Make everyone at the protest buy a hot dog and a fountain soda or something. If you explain why you're doing that to the store owner, they will likely not have a problem with it, and everything can stay peaceful.

Just food for thought.

treitz3

concealer404 wrote: »

So you're telling me that if you owned a gas station that carried BP gas, you'd shut off all the pumps and let your station, livelyhood, and all income just go away?

I would not so far as to say that. However, gas stations switch companies all the time. Gas suppliers are just like a vendor for candy. You can cancel and/or order more at your whim.

The dilemma I am having in my head is that:

1 - Do we support them so that they can stay in business to get this F up mess cleaned up?

2 - The other option.

One will have business pay for the catastrophe. The other will have Government pay for it. We all know how that works....:eek:

Lil'Abbey

concealer404 wrote: »

The right one also screws the people that supply you personally with the fuel/service.


So you're telling me that if you owned a gas station that carried BP gas, you'd shut off all the pumps and let your station, livelyhood, and all income just go away?

It's all good to say what you'd do, until you're actually the "little guy" and have to realize that you're getting completely screwed for something that you didn't do, had no control over, and have no way to fix it. You're the one being held accountable for other's actions.

There's no real "right" or "wrong" choice here. But boycotting BP supplied gas stations is certainly not right. You think you'll get enough people to boycott that BP will notice? Nope. Especially considering the other brands that they sell under. The only people that will notice will be mom and pop who run that station and have spent their lives doing so in hopes of retiring sometime before they're 80.

Big Brother is at least as much to blame here, as is the company that BP was RENTING the rig from. How are you going to boycott them and affect them? You won't. Because you can't.

I'm not saying just to roll over, but miscplacing your anger is far worse (at least in my opinion) and affecting those who shouldn't be affected, is worse than just rolling over.

You want to make a difference? Go volunteer to clean up the oil.

BP's POS is, as we know, just a small fraction of their business, but it would send a message that needs to be heard, that their negligence will no longer be tolerated. Pressuring our elected officials to reconsider awarding government contracts to known egregious violators may prove even more effective.

I'm not explicitly asking that people boycott BP (though I'll be doing my best to avoid their products); I'm suggesting that people invest a few minutes in consumer education, and decide accordingly.

ESavinon

Petroleum is a commodity sold to whoever buys it. BP among others make their money by selling in bulk not by selling retail.