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ryanjoachim wrote: »For anything "recent" you are going to need a dedicated video card, which you CAN add in by yourself even if you get a Dell.
For HD video playback, right now the CPU is the biggest factor in lag/quality as Youtube and Hulu don't support gpu-acceleration (well, FLASH doesn't).
ION/Nvidia drivers have Flash 10.1 support which means gpu-acceleration for Hulu, YT-HD, etc.
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Supports GPU-acceleration for smoother online HD videos with Adobe Flash 10.1. Learn more here .
Supports DirectCompute with Windows 7 and GeForce 8-series and later GPUs.
Supports OpenCL 1.0 ( Open Computing Language ) for all GeForce 8-series and later GPUs.
Supports OpenGL 3.2 for GeForce 8-series and later GPUs.
Supports CUDA Toolkit 3.0 features and performance enhancements. See CUDA Zone for more details.
Supports single GPU and NVIDIA SLI technology on DirectX 9, DirectX 10, and OpenGL, including 3-way SLI, Quad SLI, and SLI support on SLI-certified Intel X58-based motherboards.
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Supports GPU overclocking and temperature monitoring by installing NVIDIA System Tools software .For Sale 2019:
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Yeah, I know It was a hurried post.
Sorry for not spell checking.Receiver
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When looking at buying or building a pc, I really think people should leave the economics out of it. Building your own used to save you a ton of money but nowadays you can pick up a pre-built on sale for just as cheap with similar hardware (and probably more software... as well as bloatware...).
However, the real question you should ask yourself is are you building a pc as a means to an end (to play games, watch movies, etc) or are you building it because you are genuinely interested in learning how PC's work? If you are only interested in what your computer will do and less on how it does it, then buy pre-built. It will save you a lot of hassle. However, if you look at building a pc like building a home theater system, being able to know what each piece does and enjoying the benefits of upgrading a piece or two at a time, then build your own. All of the other arguments (costs, warranties, upgradability, performance, etc) are moot points once you answer that question.
However, I would say your build looks pretty good for what you want to do. I might upgrade the hdd to a 500gb or 750gb simply because the price difference is minimal (and you get 2 to 3 times the storage). WD Greens make great storage only drives but it hards to argue with the extended warranty on a WD black.
I would definitely recommend a dedicated gpu if you want to be able to play any sort of newish game (the hd4670 should be fine to run any game on medium settings and will run most on high). An hd4850 or 4770 is quite a noticeable step up though for only $20-$30 more.
Unless you plan to do video encoding or other real cpu demanding task (AutoCAD, etc), then a i7 is way overkill and even a AMD quad isn't needed. The AMD callisto is still a very worthy cpu and great 'bang for the buck'.
You might also consider upgrading to an AM3 mobo and DDR3 ram if you plan to upgrade later. If not, the performance benefits are still negligible,
And I live in Portland and can tell you your best bet for parts in Maine is newegg/zipzoomfly/mwave/tigerdirect (i use them in that order). I have yet to find a place in Maine that can come anywhere near to matching online prices.
Good luck on whatever you decide and enjoy the new computer! (and sorry for being so long winded...)My Setup
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bdaley6509 wrote: »Spell checker...
For 1 word? This is the internet buddy, correct speeeling and grammer aren't needed!"Dr Dunn admitted that his research could also be interpreted as evidence that women are shallower than men. He said: "Let's face it - there's evidence to support it."Best Buy is for people who don't know any better. Magnolia is for people who don't know any better and have more money to spend.
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haha, anyway. good points. I have always wanted to build a computer really.
I may wanted the quad core because It was only 35 more than the dual core. I didn't that was much more for the performance I would get.
Thanks for the insight, and maine suchs for stores....of any type.Receiver
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PerfectCreature wrote: »I want it to be an audio/video rig. Stream youtube vids, play movies and I want to be able to find a PC game and play it if I like it....Kind of like that.
School work, word prosesing internet.
Enjoy!
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That is quite the long post...I will try to thumb trough ita nd see if any of it looks solid. ThanksReceiver
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You might also consider upgrading your cpu cooler, even if you don't ever plan on overclocking (cooler temps, less fan noise, longer cpu life, etc). Even a $25 heatsink is a significant upgrade to the stock phenom coolers (just make sure you will have room in your case). However, if you are on a tight budget, usually upgrading the thermal paste (I like artic silver ceramique) should suffice (if you're not OC'ing)My Setup
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I was actually thinking about OCing...
I may buy a prebuild from cyber power thier prices don;t seem that far overpriced....Receiver
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PerfectCreature wrote: »I was actually thinking about OCing...
I may buy a prebuild from cyber power thier prices don;t seem that far overpriced....
Save yourself the money and build it. You will definitely learn a ton on the way. Here's my latest rig.
And here's the 3rd one I'm building. This one will push Phenom II X4 965BE same as mine. CPU on hand and working on parts inventory as we speak. It's much fun to build. I will probably use this one as a back up rig so definitely going SSD for the OS.
In depth look at the case I'll be using. I was able to score it onsale for 70 bucks
http://forums.vr-zone.com/hardware-arena/693597-first-look-super-flower-sf800-case-56k-warning.htmlShoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!
Home Theater Pics in the Showcase :cool:
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That looks like a very nice case. I may try to find that or find one with a similar build.
Thanks.Receiver
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Heh, i always used to use variations of that first case. It's a GREAT case.
Cases are often overlooked when building a PC. A nice, roomy, quality-made case is ESSENTIAL.I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.
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Lian Li cases are popular for a reason, and highly recommended. Rock solid for self-builds. Newegg has a great selection with good reviews as well.2007 Club Polk Football Pool Champ
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I've got that same Antec Twlve Hundred for my gaming rig and love it, nice and cool
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I didn't read through the whole post...but I would recommend making sure you get at least 4gb of ram if you are using windows 7. You can use up 2gb worth of ram in Windows 7 pretty fast.Setup:
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KrazyMofo24 wrote: »I didn't read through the whole post...but I would recommend making sure you get at least 4gb of ram if you are using windows 7. You can use up 2gb worth of ram in Windows 7 pretty fast.
Actually, 2GB is overkill in Windows 7 for most people. Windows 7 runs much more efficiently than XP and Vista, and runs very well even on systems under 1GB.
However if you do more than just browse the web then yes, I would also recommend a minimum of 2GB of ram, with a max of 4GB (32bit)."Dr Dunn admitted that his research could also be interpreted as evidence that women are shallower than men. He said: "Let's face it - there's evidence to support it."Best Buy is for people who don't know any better. Magnolia is for people who don't know any better and have more money to spend.
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ryanjoachim wrote: »Actually, 2GB is overkill in Windows 7 for most people. Windows 7 runs much more efficiently than XP and Vista, and runs very well even on systems under 1GB.
However if you do more than just browse the web then yes, I would also recommend a minimum of 2GB of ram, with a max of 4GB (32bit).
I agree a typical user who buys a pre-built PC and just browses the internet, and does basic email. They can get away with 2gb.
However most people who want to build a PC does more than that, and for gamers 4gb is definitely worth it.Setup:
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Save yourself the money and build it. You will definitely learn a ton on the way. Here's my latest rig.
And here's the 3rd one I'm building. This one will push Phenom II X4 965BE same as mine. CPU on hand and working on parts inventory as we speak. It's much fun to build. I will probably use this one as a back up rig so definitely going SSD for the OS.
In depth look at the case I'll be using. I was able to score it onsale for 70 bucks
http://forums.vr-zone.com/hardware-arena/693597-first-look-super-flower-sf800-case-56k-warning.html
Nice looking case sherardp, is it a full tower case and how many and what size are the fans. I opted for the Cooler Master HAF 932 case. I also went for the red instead of the blue. Well, I have blue on the front of the case with my fan controller.
Anyway, your rig looks nice. Get your other ssd drive yet or am I gonna have to keep bugging you......just kidding."They're always talking about my drinking, but never mention my thirst" Oscar Wilde
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^ HAF932 is a very nice case also. I almost went with it, but chose to go with the Antec 902 instead. I usually go with full cases but decided to bump back down to a mid tower. I really didn't need a full tower with this build. I decided to stick with the 80gb Intel SSD that I currently have, but I do plan on buying the 160gb for the new build. I may swap one out depending on which tower I decide to keep as my main if that makes sense. I was also thinking red fans when it's time to replace these, blue seems to be rather common. Fans are 120mm all the way around with the big 200mm in the top. Very nice airflow throughout the case.
As for RAM I think 4gb should be minimum in any current build, even though 2 will suffice. For those of you using on board sound, I also highly recommend the Asus Xonar D2 card. It performs well and sounds amazing with the ability to tweak room correction, crossover and more.Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!
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Yeah I was looking at an Antec tower. Mid size would be what I am after.
I was going to go with a 1GB video card. 4 gigs of ram. As for the CPU....Is more cores faster even though the ghz is lower?
Thanks.
I see 6 cores with 2.8 and then I see duals with like 3.1....
Whats the diffrence?
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PerfectCreature wrote: »As for the CPU....Is more cores faster even though the ghz is lower?
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Anything more than 2 cores is generally wasted unless you use applications designed to take advantage of those extra cores. Games in general don't.
Video editing/encoding/ripping, as well as programs like Photoshop DO take advantage of those extra cores.I see 6 cores with 2.8 and then I see duals with like 3.1....
Whats the diffrence?
Also, I can over-state how much of a bottle-neck your hard drive can be. A lot of people have great systems and have slow load times of programs and games, and they at first blame their CPU or RAM. A lot of the time it's because they have older IDE or slower SATA drives."Dr Dunn admitted that his research could also be interpreted as evidence that women are shallower than men. He said: "Let's face it - there's evidence to support it."Best Buy is for people who don't know any better. Magnolia is for people who don't know any better and have more money to spend.
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^ HAF932 is a very nice case also. I almost went with it, but chose to go with the Antec 902 instead. I usually go with full cases but decided to bump back down to a mid tower. I really didn't need a full tower with this build.
I'm trying to find a nice full-tower case that has at least 4 hot-swappable slots...it ain't easy to find one that doesn't look "freaky"."Dr Dunn admitted that his research could also be interpreted as evidence that women are shallower than men. He said: "Let's face it - there's evidence to support it."Best Buy is for people who don't know any better. Magnolia is for people who don't know any better and have more money to spend.
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ryanjoachim wrote: »I'm trying to find a nice full-tower case that has at least 4 hot-swappable slots...it ain't easy to find one that doesn't look "freaky".
What about the Antec 1200, Corsair 700D, or the HAF 932. All nice cases, that should meet your needs. When only the best will work you can opt for a Soldam case, made in Japan. I've seen these up close and personal and they are freaking amazing. Expect to pay 350.00 - 500.00 depending on yen rate. I can ship one for you if need be
http://windy-online.com/case/altium_vr/2000gmb2/images/lineup/sr.jpg
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ryanjoachim wrote: »I'm trying to find a nice full-tower case that has at least 4 hot-swappable slots...it ain't easy to find one that doesn't look "freaky".
Here is some pics of my HAF 932. It is a full tower case and has a lot of great features,like 3 x 230mm fans and a 140mm fan. It also has great layout for cable management. One other thing is the amount of room in the case. As you can see from my pics, I have a Noctua cpu cooler which is quite large and I had no problem installing it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/renowilliams/
P.S Sherardp also has mentioned some good cases. I picked this one as it had what I needed and was a reasonable price."They're always talking about my drinking, but never mention my thirst" Oscar Wilde
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Yeah, I was thinking about maybe getting a low mem, around 250 velocity raptor drive, I have a laptop right now that I am giving to my bro and it has 250 and I havn;t even touched 100gigs yet....so....
I mean, I could always add a 2nd one later as needed....
So, a dual core above 3ghz, and 1gb void car, one of those velocity raptor drives and a nice case to keep them cool.
So far I have some ideas on cases.
Thanks. All that look good?
I may post some updates soon.Receiver
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PerfectCreature wrote: »Yeah, I was thinking about maybe getting a low mem, around 250 velocity raptor drive, I have a laptop right now that I am giving to my bro and it has 250 and I havn;t even touched 100gigs yet....so....
I mean, I could always add a 2nd one later as needed....
So, a dual core above 3ghz, and 1gb void car, one of those velocity raptor drives and a nice case to keep them cool.
So far I have some ideas on cases.
Thanks. All that look good?
I may post some updates soon.
Instead of getting the raptors I would recommend getting to Samsung F3 TB drives and running them in raid. Those are as fast as the raptors, more space and cheaper. Just checked them and they are even cheaper now.
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KrazyMofo24 wrote: »Instead of getting the raptors I would recommend getting to Samsung F3 TB drives and running them in raid. Those are as fast as the raptors, more space and cheaper. Just checked them and they are even cheaper now.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185&cm_re=Samsung_F3-_-22-152-185-_-Product
Or how about a 40gb Intel SSD and one of these Samsungs as his secondary. Still would be smoking fast.Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!
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Yeah but those ssd are expensive....like super expensive....
is the benefit worth the price?
I mean will the be just as fast if not faster than the raptors?
I read a couple reviews and they said that the raptors and the raids are almost as fast and vastly cheaper.Receiver
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PerfectCreature wrote: »Yeah but those ssd are expensive....like super expensive....
is the benefit worth the price?
I mean will the be just as fast if not faster than the raptors?
I read a couple reviews and they said that the raptors and the raids are almost as fast and vastly cheaper.
The SSD will be faster...haven't looked at the prices but you could just get one to install OS and use the Samsung for storage.
I wouldn't go with the raptors for that price. I would go with either SSD or Samsung F3's in Raid.Setup:
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I am going to toss out the idea of the SSD for now. I can always upgrade later. I am going to use the Samsung ones. Alot of reviews said they are almost as fast as SSDs, and faster than the raptors.
I am going to go with the Antec 900 mid case.
I am revamping my pics and will post when I am sure that I have picked the build I want.
Then you guys can tackle it for any issues you may see.Receiver
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