My DIY vs audioquest
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If you don't agree with someoone, you resort to harrassment, personal attacks and bullying.
That isn't acceptable anywhere.
That is precisely your MO!!!:mad: -
My thought is maybe just maybe xcapri79 and the OP are bf or one of the same. If I am wrong then sobeit.
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However, I am convinced the OP never met to bating anyone.
However the pics are not necessary something that a conscious and loving father would lead his young son to be familiar with. A loving father would look at places where the possibilty of such pictures are not expected to be seen by his son however... The thread title was about a comparision of cables and felt safe for the younger man. The derailing of the thread was the problem.
In fact, the derailing of the thread is disrespectfull of the OP... pos15: ...and actually, who was baiting who (from post 48):;);)
Yep, the discussion had many various derailing that could lead one to CP. I wonder what kind of reputation it would provide Polk
Don't get me wrong, a few jokes here an th.re, a few pie pics etc... but the OP derailed at post 7 and never really recovered. How can CP be taken seriously with such discussion derailing?Unfortunately this is often a reality and sure us a shame. The question should be who should stay away from the discussion: The persons that derails them when not in agreement or the people that actually beg for it to be civilised and respectable (for the OP, the members, visitors and even POLK it self),
Cheers!
TK
Going back to you old ways again aye TK. I noticed it in the "Will Polk Ever Bring Out High . . ." thread. Way to go! -
TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »My thought is maybe just maybe xcapri79 and the OP are bf or one of the same. If I am wrong then sobeit.
Cheers!
TKDARE TO SOAR:
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Dang, I'm out of popcorn."Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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Interesting you omitted these posts:...
Maybe the OP's intent wasn't malicious, but the kindling was put in place in the first post.
And you've been here long enough to know how these things can go south, real quick. No need to patronize.
Cheers!
TKDARE TO SOAR:
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Why attacking the OP, he never attacked anyone? Simply make accusations because he doesn't have the same bekiefs? Just go through his history and you will find out he is a legitimate new comer looking for answers and knowledge of this hobby!
Cheers!
TK
He's been around long enough and has participated in enough of these types of threads to know that where he was going in his OP was going to bring down a crapstorm, you know it, I know and so does everyone else.
When Doug called him on it IMMEDIATELY he played dumb. You've been here long enough to know how these threads end up especially when the OP makes a statement like he did in the last sentance of his OP.
He has been treated with respect, and kidded, and ribbed and took it all in stride since he joined and I might add with a good sense of humor that is until X came in and now you.
This thread was doomed from the start except this time, it was done with levity rather than with rancor.
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As per the post referring to modeling audioquest cables, that is correct I was trying to mimic them.
The point in me asking is that I have been highly considering buying them but really was looking for more input on if my cables sound smiler if it would be worth buying them...and maybe keeping them through all of my upgrades and such.
I kind of would like the high quality ones but I mean if my cables are close I might as well save the cash for better gear right?
Furthermore, the statement where I said that audioquest was no more than dressed up cable, I did not mean literally.
I was simply asking, or rather wondering if my home made cable was really that good, or if I just did the tests wrong because you know audioquest puts time and effort into making cables and does not really think about making them in a way that some aspiring audioholic could replicate....
As per my thread being derailed, I played along in hopes that it would die out and as you saw, I slipped adequate proper posts in with the derailed responses.
Really, I was just wondering how my cables could be competing with a high quality cable considering I used absolutely no high quality parts and all was either monoprice or what happened to be laying around the house at the time of the build.
As for TK thanks for sticking up in my favor and for those who bash him, please think about doing so, and wonder about being in his shoes...he's just trying to be nice.
I did not in anyway mean for this to turn into a derailed, sexualized hate train that obviously didn't plan on stopping anytime soon.
Those who were offended I am sorry for that, and hope in time the post will even itself out.
Thanks for those who posted valid input.
Again. I did not degrade audioquest cable. It was more of a "question" on whether my cable was that good (which I find hard to believe considering all the mess ups I had) or if the tests were just horribly done. Since I am considering buying audioquest are there any people that would disagree with this brand and mention another that could be considered not so much better, but better suited for my style of listening and such?
I will be at sometime upgrading soon, a friend wants my monitor 50s says they sound great so new speakers will be in order and I plan on giving him the cable as well.Receiver
Harman Kardon HK 3490
Speakers
Polk Audio Monitor 50s
Subwoofer
Klipsch KSW-100
Cables
AudioQuest Rocket 33s 10ft
AudioQuest Optilink1 2m
AudioQuest Alpha-Snake 25ft Interconnect
AudioQuest HDMI-1 2m
Alienware X51 R2
PS4
Samsung Smart TV 40" 1080p 3D -
PerfectCreature wrote: »As per the post referring to modeling audioquest cables, that is correct I was trying to mimic them.
The point in me asking is that I have been highly considering buying them but really was looking for more input on if my cables sound smiler if it would be worth buying them...and maybe keeping them through all of my upgrades and such.
I kind of would like the high quality ones but I mean if my cables are close I might as well save the cash for better gear right?
Furthermore, the statement where I said that audioquest was no more than dressed up cable, I did not mean literally.
I was simply asking, or rather wondering if my home made cable was really that good, or if I just did the tests wrong because you know audioquest puts time and effort into making cables and does not really think about making them in a way that some aspiring audioholic could replicate....
As per my thread being derailed, I played along in hopes that it would die out and as you saw, I slipped adequate proper posts in with the derailed responses.
Really, I was just wondering how my cables could be competing with a high quality cable considering I used absolutely no high quality parts and all was either monoprice or what happened to be laying around the house at the time of the build.
As for TK thanks for sticking up in my favor and for those who bash him, please think about doing so, and wonder about being in his shoes...he's just trying to be nice.
I did not in anyway mean for this to turn into a derailed, sexualized hate train that obviously didn't plan on stopping anytime soon.
Those who were offended I am sorry for that, and hope in time the post will even itself out.
Thanks for those who posted valid input.
Again. I did not degrade audioquest cable. It was more of a "question" on whether my cable was that good (which I find hard to believe considering all the mess ups I had) or if the tests were just horribly done. Since I am considering buying audioquest are there any people that would disagree with this brand and mention another that could be considered not so much better, but better suited for my style of listening and such?
I will be at sometime upgrading soon, a friend wants my monitor 50s says they sound great so new speakers will be in order and I plan on giving him the cable as well.
Don't worry kiddo you're okay in my book and you are definitely on the right track, especially not being afraid to ask questions no matter how silly you think they might be. The only stupid question is the one not asked.:)
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Yeah, it is a journey. And I want to have a pair of **** hiking boots you know?
Cables I mean. heh. I like analogies.
Just did not know if I should bite into all of the audioquest hype was all.
From what am getting my gear is considered low grade and I would not hear a difference between a high quality cable and a coat hanger... is kind of the vibe I am feeling.Receiver
Harman Kardon HK 3490
Speakers
Polk Audio Monitor 50s
Subwoofer
Klipsch KSW-100
Cables
AudioQuest Rocket 33s 10ft
AudioQuest Optilink1 2m
AudioQuest Alpha-Snake 25ft Interconnect
AudioQuest HDMI-1 2m
Alienware X51 R2
PS4
Samsung Smart TV 40" 1080p 3D -
PerfectCreature wrote: »Yeah, it is a journey. And I want to have a pair of **** hiking boots you know?
Cables I mean. heh. I like analogies.
Just did not know if I should bite into all of the audioquest hype was all.
From what am getting my gear is considered low grade and I would not hear a difference between a high quality cable and a coat hanger... is kind of the vibe I am feeling.
That is not true. If you are enjoying your gear that is all that matters. Good cables will make your rig sound better but if your gear isn't very revealing or resolving then it doesn't make sense to go with expensive cables. Once you do get up into the more revealing gear then higher end ICs & speaker cables will improve the sound.
You're on the right track. I applaud your willingness to try to squeeze out every ounce of performance from your gear by doing it yourself. -
hearingimpared wrote: »Don't worry kiddo you're okay in my book and you are definitely on the right track, especially not being afraid to ask questions no matter how silly you think they might be. The only stupid question is the one not asked.:)
Just keep having fun in your journey for sonic bliss and don't be afraid to keep trying things on your own.;)
NOTE: the receiver and speakers you bought are NOT low grade! You did not buy high end gear but you didn't buy an HTIB either. I am ruffly in the same boat as you are, I can not afford high end gear but I try to maximize the quality for my money. If you always keep your budget in mind you will eventually go up the chain. Many which are blessed with great gear don't seem to remember they started somewhere.
Cheers!
TK
Cheers!
TKDARE TO SOAR:
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I don't think that you intended for any of this to happen, but I do get a chuckle out of this part of your posts:PerfectCreature wrote: »I was simply asking, or rather wondering if my home made cable was really that good, or if I just did the tests wrong because you know audioquest puts time and effort into making cables and does not really think about making them in a way that some aspiring audioholic could replicate....PerfectCreature wrote: »Did I do the test wrong or is audioquest cable just like consumer grade power wire (just dressed up)?
Why do you keep wondering if you "did the tests wrong"? I'm assuming you listened to something with one cable, and then had your friend change cables, without you knowing which was which, right? Really, what else is there to worry about? It's just that simple. I just can't understand why you'd worry that you'd done something wrong... -
Post #29 has a link to pornography with a "disclaimer". Get it?
The disclaimer is a joke and isn't a defence, in fact it is an encouragement.
not unlike my pool boy Enrique when he encourages me to tickle him with an ostritch feather as he prances through house is a thong and pirate hat.
both are a joke and HIGHLY inappropriate
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Schiit SYS Passive Pre. Jolida CD player. Songbird streamer. California Audio Labs Sigma II DAC, DIY 300as1/a1 Ice modules Class D amp. LSi15 with MM842 woofer upgrade, Nordost Blue Heaven and Unity interconnects.
Upstairs 2 Channel Rig -
Prometheus Ref. TVC passive pre, SAE A-205 Amp, Wiim pro streamer and Topping E50 DAC, California Audio Labs DX1 CD player, Von Schweikert VR3.5 speakers.
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Well, so far my gear is pleasing me well.
It definatly goes loud enough although sometimes the threshold is a bit unnerving because I am scared to damage my speakers again. My power is 100% clean though so hopefully no "crackle tweeters"
I worried because the tests just seemed...odd. I expect the audioquest cables to outperform the homemade ones that's all.Receiver
Harman Kardon HK 3490
Speakers
Polk Audio Monitor 50s
Subwoofer
Klipsch KSW-100
Cables
AudioQuest Rocket 33s 10ft
AudioQuest Optilink1 2m
AudioQuest Alpha-Snake 25ft Interconnect
AudioQuest HDMI-1 2m
Alienware X51 R2
PS4
Samsung Smart TV 40" 1080p 3D -
+1, you are doing quite well PC (even better than I did when I first came on board). Enjoy what you presently own as much as you can, that is your hard earned money trying to please your ear. Upgrade as per your budget allow you, that is the only way to go up in this hobby.
NOTE: the receiver and speakers you bought are NOT low grade! You did not buy high end gear but you didn't buy an HTIB either. I am ruffly in the same boat as you are, I can not afford high end gear but I try to maximize the quality for my money. If you always keep your budget in mind you will eventually go up the chain. Many which are blessed with great gear don't seem to remember they started somewhere.
Cheers!
TK
Cheers!
TK
Okay Bro you finally got a laugh out of me. Good job! :D -
PerfectCreature wrote: »Well, so far my gear is pleasing me well.
It definatly goes loud enough although sometimes the threshold is a bit unnerving because I am scared to damage my speakers again. My power is 100% clean though so hopefully no "crackle tweeters"
I worried because the tests just seemed...odd. I expect the audioquest cables to outperform the homemade ones that's all.
Let me give you an example of what recently happened to our prez. He had a very expensive aftermarket power cord on his high end rig. He saw another that I believe was over $2500 and read the reviews on it and bought it and expected it to sound better. After burnin, he liked the way his less expensive PC sounded compared to the one that cost twice as much so he sent it back. Keep your expectations low in this hobby and you will fair much better when upgrading gear and cables.:) . . . and always keep in mind that synergy is always a major factor especially when mating different name brand gear. -
After trying a few aftermarket PC's, I went back to the OEM cord on my W4S ST500 amp."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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PerfectCreature wrote: »I worried because the tests just seemed...odd. I expect the audioquest cables to outperform the homemade ones that's all.
I'm curious. Have you ever tried something in some other area of expectedly higher quality (and presumably higher performing) merchandise (shoes, cars, an expensive restaurant) and were disappointed? Did you "worry" in those cases?
Just because the Audioquest cables didn't blow you away, it does not mean higher performance is not there. Even if your current rig is capable of resolving the differences between cables, your ears may not be capable of discerning the differences.
Joe gave an excellent example of an inexperienced wine taster not being able to discern all the flavor components in two samples of wine, but an experienced taster easily being able to do so. It is the same with audio. The more experience your ears (or any other sense organ) has with variable stimuli, the more adept your ears become in discerning audible differences.PerfectCreature wrote: »My power is 100% clean...
I curious about this too. How do you know your power is 100% clean? How did you test and measure this?Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country! -
DarqueKnight wrote: »I curious about this too. How do you know your power is 100% clean? How did you test and measure this?
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Well, it may not be exactly 100% clean. You have to maybe look in between the lines. Those that have read my posts all the way through perhaps may have gotten what I meant. For those who have not; my receiver before did not have enough power for the monitor 50s, it was old and very much used. It had been sitting in the basement for a few years before I used it. It was dirty on the inside, all kinds of dust that I tried to clean as much as I could. I thought it was 100 watts per channel when, a polk audio rep suggested that his information was otherwise.
While the Teac receiver made my speaker in a sense go much louder pertaining to volume it was a different kind of loud and it was filled with distortion and clipping.
My Harmon Kardon receiver has what was recommended to me; high current power design. My other was not.
That is why I made the statement that my power is clean. I however am aware of what can make your power dirty but given I live in a small town with not a lot of traffic (electric wise) I am sure that my receiver will be able to clean out the bad parts. While my power is not 100% clean is it much cleaner power than I had before. It is more detailed and is a more pleasing sound and It has the trickery in fouling me that I can take louder volumes when I know I can not. Those who have had older models and upgraded may be able to know what I am getting at.
I don't mean to keep making statements that are always getting picked apart. I should know by now to review what I state.
As for expectations; I did have high expectations for my receiver and the receiver met those. I however do have good ears, but as stated in a few post my ears are not trained yet, they are getting there. Every day I listen I stumble across something different that I never noticed before in my music. Even in dvds that I thought I knew so well. I am slowly getting the basics of the hobby down. In every post I learn something new. As for the cables I know that I expected to hears bells and whistles. Upon further testing this morning with my friends cables we sat down and compared what we heard. We tested for about 3 hours at various volumes. Those who said they may not be levels apart were right but they were however better in some areas than my cables. I went in with low expectations and came out with the conclusion that while my cables are not of the best material and they, after more thorough testing are not as defined in sound will do just fine for me at the moment. I now have the money to buy better cables, but will wait until a set pops up in the FS.
All in all. While my cables lack in some areas compared to the audioquest that is just fine because I will eventually fill in those gaps at a later date and will be able to enjoy the music more with higher end products.Receiver
Harman Kardon HK 3490
Speakers
Polk Audio Monitor 50s
Subwoofer
Klipsch KSW-100
Cables
AudioQuest Rocket 33s 10ft
AudioQuest Optilink1 2m
AudioQuest Alpha-Snake 25ft Interconnect
AudioQuest HDMI-1 2m
Alienware X51 R2
PS4
Samsung Smart TV 40" 1080p 3D -
Wow, this thread took a turn, didn't it?
Here, X, I'll spell it out for you.
The link is not to pornography, it is to GOOGLE. The disclaimer was not a joke, it was specifically for people like you who are obviously so upset by that type of pic, so that you wouldn't be tempted to look. Also obviously, tho, you were tempted. Also obviously, you have safesearch turned off. Whose decisions are those? It seems they are yours and yours alone. If you read that disclaimer and find it to be an encouragement, that says a lot about you and your moral high horse. I didn't post pics that were inappropriate, I didn't post anything that a young child looking over their parent's shoulder shouldn't see. I contributed to the derail of the OP's thread, but that is the only "crime" in post 29. If the mods think it is inappropriate, then please delete post 29, I certainly won't mind. I've got nothing else to say to you, X.
Over and out.
Edit--sorry OP for the further derail. I won't be posting anymore in this thread.Post #29 has a link to pornography with a "disclaimer". Get it?
The disclaimer is a joke and isn't a defence, in fact it is an encouragement.
The model posted is a well known British pornstar from Playboy and Penthouse.
The person who posted the photos seems intent on disrupting the Forum by constantly introducing his soft **** to this and other threads."Don't forget to change your politician. They are like diapers they need to be changed regularly, and for the same reason." -
It is the standard set by the Moderators who are empowered by Polk Audio, and by me, mwaaaaa haaaaaa haaaaaaaa!!!!.
fixed, oh powerful one
glad we can help with your daily dose of self worth and validation. the sad thing is, you don't know how sad it is.Living Room 2 Channel -
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Upstairs 2 Channel Rig -
Prometheus Ref. TVC passive pre, SAE A-205 Amp, Wiim pro streamer and Topping E50 DAC, California Audio Labs DX1 CD player, Von Schweikert VR3.5 speakers.
Studio Rig - Scarlett 18i20(Gen3) DAW, Mac Mini, Aiyma A07 Max (BridgedX2), Totem Mites -
I can't believe this fellow is causing everyone so much grief! If you don't like what is in a thread THEN DON'T CLICK ON IT ANYMORE!
You're right Lou, it is very, very sad! It reminds of the kid in third grade in Catholic School who is the nun's pet and is always tattle tailing on every one for every little thing, real or imagined. UGH!
Perfect Creature; Your doing good kiddo, don't let this kind of trolling by X ruin your experience or discourage you from posting threads in the Clubhouse or any other forum here. You and the rest of us were having fun until this guy in his usual manner mucked up the thread.
BTW you will notice that he spouts the rules like a spewing oil rig but pays no attention to them except when other's in his perceived power trip touch the gray areas. Very, very sad. -
I would like to see the Clubhouse retained. It can be a pleasant place - a place for some good G rated conversation.
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Originally Posted by xcapri79
I would like to see the Clubhouse retained. It can be a pleasant place - a place for some good G rated conversation.
. . . and you are going to try to force everyone on this forum to ride your 'G' rated express. Find a kiddie forum, this forum is for adults. You'll find all the 'G' rated converation on the kid's forum you could possibly desire.
You don't like it when others try to dictate what you can or can't do in your life, and you know of which I speak, yet you want all of us to fall in line with your agenda! Again, I say, "do as I say, not as I do!"mdaudioguy wrote: »Wow, while I don't hang in The Clubhouse too often, I'd be ok with it at PG-13. I mean, presumably grade school kids aren't interested in the Polk forum. I mean, it is a clubhouse.
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Stop responding to the troll. He obviously doesn't get enough attention in real life and has to cause drama here.
To the OP, carry on."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche -
Can Xcapri be an Xmember????? PUUULLLEZZZZZZZ
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Keiko,
I know the forum has rules against pornography and foul language. When I clicked on the link in post #29, I did not see any foul language or pornography. The link in post #29 goes to a Google image search result showing a female in various states of dress and undress, yet no sexual activity is depicted and no foul language is written or implied.
My understanding is that pornography is the literary or visual depiction of people engaged in sexual activity, either alone or with others. Am I correct?
Forum rules 4 and 5 state:
4) Pornography and violent images are not allowed on this forum. This includes posts about weapons or explosives.
5) No baiting or fighting. Personal attacks, trouble making, inappropriate language, or any threatening or offensive behavior will not be tolerated.
While forum rules clearly state that pornography, violent images and inappropriate language cannot be POSTED on the forum, I found no rule precluding posting a LINK to such content.
Furthermore, with regard to the "notorious" post #29, the poster clearly indicated that he was linking to content that was "not safe for work" (NSFW) and "Not Safe For The Polk Audio Forum" (NSFTPAF). This content was not "forced" on anyone and anyone clicking on the link must have had some interest in the material.
As I have said before, those who irrationally rail against something or someone that is no threat to them, actually desire (or desire to be like) the thing or person they are railing against.
When it comes to audio power cords, bigger is better!
Such good "cable" discussions.Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country! -
Jesus has risen to save us all from the material that has burned our eyes here in club polk. Ohh master we are not worthy of you coming to save us from these graphic images of this fine looking lady. we shall not covet the lady oh father, please forgive us as we have sinned oh father...
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