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  • PerfectCreature
    PerfectCreature Posts: 1,456
    edited May 2010
    Yeah. That's basically what I plan on doing....it got long because I decided I wanted to have a little fund and make my speaker cables look kind of fancy. Hoping it will be some fun.
    Receiver
    Harman Kardon HK 3490
    Speakers
    Polk Audio Monitor 50s
    Subwoofer
    Klipsch KSW-100
    Cables
    AudioQuest Rocket 33s 10ft
    AudioQuest Optilink1 2m
    AudioQuest Alpha-Snake 25ft Interconnect
    AudioQuest HDMI-1 2m

    Alienware X51 R2
    PS4
    Samsung Smart TV 40" 1080p 3D
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  • Ern Dog
    Ern Dog Posts: 2,237
    edited May 2010
    It's fun making your own customized jumpers.

    If you need some speaker cable, I have some PNF Symphony I could sell you cheap. PM me if interested.
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  • PerfectCreature
    PerfectCreature Posts: 1,456
    edited May 2010
    I was actually going to change it up and make some Bi-wire cables. But I am defiantly interested in the cables just because I could get bored with the home made ones.
    Thanks for the offer.
    Receiver
    Harman Kardon HK 3490
    Speakers
    Polk Audio Monitor 50s
    Subwoofer
    Klipsch KSW-100
    Cables
    AudioQuest Rocket 33s 10ft
    AudioQuest Optilink1 2m
    AudioQuest Alpha-Snake 25ft Interconnect
    AudioQuest HDMI-1 2m

    Alienware X51 R2
    PS4
    Samsung Smart TV 40" 1080p 3D
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited May 2010
    PerfectCreature wrote: »
    But I am defiantly interested in the cables just because I could get bored with the home made ones.

    That's funny. :D
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  • PerfectCreature
    PerfectCreature Posts: 1,456
    edited May 2010
    Ha, sorry. I am one to make pretty frequent spelling errors.
    I got the stuff ordered though should get then tuesday they said...
    I hope it turns out great.
    I'll post pics when its all done.
    Receiver
    Harman Kardon HK 3490
    Speakers
    Polk Audio Monitor 50s
    Subwoofer
    Klipsch KSW-100
    Cables
    AudioQuest Rocket 33s 10ft
    AudioQuest Optilink1 2m
    AudioQuest Alpha-Snake 25ft Interconnect
    AudioQuest HDMI-1 2m

    Alienware X51 R2
    PS4
    Samsung Smart TV 40" 1080p 3D
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited May 2010
    PerfectCreature wrote: »
    Ha, sorry. I am one to make pretty frequent spelling errors.
    I got the stuff ordered though should get then tuesday they said...
    I hope it turns out great.
    I'll post pics when its all done.
    Goodness PC, you haven't jump started those speakers yet :D ??? How long and how much knowledge does it take to make jumpers ;) ? You know what, an easy way to have a listen demo on your speakers before you invest in material is easy....

    -Remove jumpers from the speakers...

    -Strip your speaker cables just long enough so they can be fed through the
    bottom and top of your speaker posts (just the same way the original
    jumpers were installed)...

    -Open the speaker posts nut as far as possible and If you look carefully there should be a hole in each of the posts...

    -Neatly twist the speaker wires the exact same way they normally are when
    stripping (I believe clock wise, am I correct?)...

    -Now, feed the wire through the bottom and top holes as this should create
    continuity (short) between your driver and tweeter...

    -You can now test if it makes a difference...

    -By doing this, you can audition your speakers using your speaker wires as jumpers and therefore make a wise choice (does it make a difference or not before I spend money???)

    Anyway, I sure hope you are still enjoying your system (listening to music and movies) while you are waiting for the material to make your jumpers :cool:

    Enjoy your speaker jump starting :D

    TK
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  • PerfectCreature
    PerfectCreature Posts: 1,456
    edited May 2010
    Yeah, I did that yesterday night, I used some speaker wire from my car audio install...which I think it must be 10 gauge or something because my 12 gauge stripper kept eating wires...10 gauge didn't...
    They sound a bit more clear and go a little louder, it looks better as well.
    I mean it's not a humongous difference (not that I really expected much of one anyway) but its enough that I'm satisfied in bi-wiring them.
    Just waiting for the parts...I just hope that I got the right sizes for everything.
    If they turn out nice (I'll post pics like I said) Maybe I'll make a few more. It wasn't that expensive, $20 for all the material. It's about what I spend a week for Iced coffee at Timmies.
    Receiver
    Harman Kardon HK 3490
    Speakers
    Polk Audio Monitor 50s
    Subwoofer
    Klipsch KSW-100
    Cables
    AudioQuest Rocket 33s 10ft
    AudioQuest Optilink1 2m
    AudioQuest Alpha-Snake 25ft Interconnect
    AudioQuest HDMI-1 2m

    Alienware X51 R2
    PS4
    Samsung Smart TV 40" 1080p 3D
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited May 2010
    Great, enjoy :)
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  • PerfectCreature
    PerfectCreature Posts: 1,456
    edited May 2010
    I hope I do. It says I'll receive the parts around Tuesday.Should not take to long I think I will have to pick up up a heat shrinker.... Although people have had success with their stoves I guess?

    Does anyone know what I could do to insulate the wires better? Because I was researching how some of the bigger brands have like 2 or 3 types of insulation on their cables to minimize this and that?
    One DIY person used some spray on teflon...is that safe?
    Receiver
    Harman Kardon HK 3490
    Speakers
    Polk Audio Monitor 50s
    Subwoofer
    Klipsch KSW-100
    Cables
    AudioQuest Rocket 33s 10ft
    AudioQuest Optilink1 2m
    AudioQuest Alpha-Snake 25ft Interconnect
    AudioQuest HDMI-1 2m

    Alienware X51 R2
    PS4
    Samsung Smart TV 40" 1080p 3D
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited May 2010
    PerfectCreature wrote: »
    Does anyone know what I could do to insulate the wires better? Because I was researching how some of the bigger brands have like 2 or 3 types of insulation on their cables to minimize this and that?One DIY person used some spray on teflon...is that safe?
    Marketting BABBLE!
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  • PerfectCreature
    PerfectCreature Posts: 1,456
    edited May 2010
    Thats what I thought...
    Receiver
    Harman Kardon HK 3490
    Speakers
    Polk Audio Monitor 50s
    Subwoofer
    Klipsch KSW-100
    Cables
    AudioQuest Rocket 33s 10ft
    AudioQuest Optilink1 2m
    AudioQuest Alpha-Snake 25ft Interconnect
    AudioQuest HDMI-1 2m

    Alienware X51 R2
    PS4
    Samsung Smart TV 40" 1080p 3D
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2010
    PerfectCreature wrote: »
    I hope I do. It says I'll receive the parts around Tuesday.Should not take to long I think I will have to pick up up a heat shrinker.... Although people have had success with their stoves I guess?

    Does anyone know what I could do to insulate the wires better? Because I was researching how some of the bigger brands have like 2 or 3 types of insulation on their cables to minimize this and that?
    One DIY person used some spray on teflon...is that safe?

    Careful PC, the "bigger brands" have done their homework when adding extra insulation but if you do just off-the-cuff, you could be creating a capacitance issue even with the short runs of jumper wire you are using.:)
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  • PerfectCreature
    PerfectCreature Posts: 1,456
    edited May 2010
    Ok, SO I wont add anything extra. I will just braid the wire and slip it inside the techflec then tube wrap the ends...that should avoid me having problems right?
    Receiver
    Harman Kardon HK 3490
    Speakers
    Polk Audio Monitor 50s
    Subwoofer
    Klipsch KSW-100
    Cables
    AudioQuest Rocket 33s 10ft
    AudioQuest Optilink1 2m
    AudioQuest Alpha-Snake 25ft Interconnect
    AudioQuest HDMI-1 2m

    Alienware X51 R2
    PS4
    Samsung Smart TV 40" 1080p 3D
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  • Hawkeye
    Hawkeye Posts: 1,313
    edited May 2010
    PerfectCreature wrote: »
    Ok, SO I wont add anything extra. I will just braid the wire and slip it inside the techflec then tube wrap the ends...that should avoid me having problems right?

    Personally, I think you're way over thinking this :D Try some wires first before you spend a lot of cash.

    Gordon
    2 Channel -
    Martin Logan Spire, 2 JL Audio F112 subs
    McIntosh C1000 Controller with Tube pre amp, 2 MC501 amplifiers, MD1K Transport & DAC, MR-88 Tuner
    WireWorld Eclipse 6.0 speaker wire and jumpers, Eclipse 5^2 Squared Balanced IC's. Silver Eclipse PCs (5)
    Symposium Rollerblocks 2+ (16)Black Diamond Racing Mk 3 pits (8)
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited May 2010
    As Monty Python would say...'GET ON WITH IT!' :D

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
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  • PerfectCreature
    PerfectCreature Posts: 1,456
    edited May 2010
    I am still waiting for the parts and I am sure it will sound just fine.
    Plus it will give me something to do. I mean...really with my setup wire is wire.
    I don't have anything extremely high quality so a simple setup will do fine.
    Receiver
    Harman Kardon HK 3490
    Speakers
    Polk Audio Monitor 50s
    Subwoofer
    Klipsch KSW-100
    Cables
    AudioQuest Rocket 33s 10ft
    AudioQuest Optilink1 2m
    AudioQuest Alpha-Snake 25ft Interconnect
    AudioQuest HDMI-1 2m

    Alienware X51 R2
    PS4
    Samsung Smart TV 40" 1080p 3D
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,990
    edited May 2010
    Man,whatever happened to just stripping some extra speaker wire to connect both posts? Seems like alot to do about something very simple. Order parts ?? Hell, if I was going to do that,I would have just bought a set of jumpers and been done with it. To each his own, let us know how they turn out.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • PerfectCreature
    PerfectCreature Posts: 1,456
    edited May 2010
    Yeah I know right?
    It's just I have nothing to do right no but work. Making some speaker cables seemed like fun. I bought all the parts (Most stuff has come in handy already)
    It just seemed like some fun and if they turn out great...amazing if not well, I just spent a day doing something interesting.
    I am assuming I will get them Tuesday since it said 2-4 day shipping...
    But hey. I mean I learned a lot about speaker wire in the process.
    If it fails though I will probably buy that MIT exp1 that are being offered up in the FS if they are still there if not...maybe some audioquest rocket 33s.
    Receiver
    Harman Kardon HK 3490
    Speakers
    Polk Audio Monitor 50s
    Subwoofer
    Klipsch KSW-100
    Cables
    AudioQuest Rocket 33s 10ft
    AudioQuest Optilink1 2m
    AudioQuest Alpha-Snake 25ft Interconnect
    AudioQuest HDMI-1 2m

    Alienware X51 R2
    PS4
    Samsung Smart TV 40" 1080p 3D
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,990
    edited May 2010
    You doing a whole set of speaker cables or just jumpers ? I'm confused, I know,pretty easy to do.:D
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • PerfectCreature
    PerfectCreature Posts: 1,456
    edited May 2010
    Shotgun type speaker cables.
    SO they will be like bi-wire cables so that I can just skip the jumping...
    Receiver
    Harman Kardon HK 3490
    Speakers
    Polk Audio Monitor 50s
    Subwoofer
    Klipsch KSW-100
    Cables
    AudioQuest Rocket 33s 10ft
    AudioQuest Optilink1 2m
    AudioQuest Alpha-Snake 25ft Interconnect
    AudioQuest HDMI-1 2m

    Alienware X51 R2
    PS4
    Samsung Smart TV 40" 1080p 3D
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,990
    edited May 2010
    PerfectCreature wrote: »
    Shotgun type speaker cables.
    SO they will be like bi-wire cables so that I can just skip the jumping...

    Gotcha....trying to kill 2 birds with one stone,thats cool,hope it works out for ya. I'll throw in my .02 here and say that on Monitors, bi-wireing imho anyway,won't make a spit of difference. Just sayin' is all,good luck though. DIY projects are hit or miss,here's to wishing you a hit.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • PerfectCreature
    PerfectCreature Posts: 1,456
    edited May 2010
    Yeah me as well.
    Plus all the ones I have seen looked really nice so.
    I am hoping I have the same luck.
    Receiver
    Harman Kardon HK 3490
    Speakers
    Polk Audio Monitor 50s
    Subwoofer
    Klipsch KSW-100
    Cables
    AudioQuest Rocket 33s 10ft
    AudioQuest Optilink1 2m
    AudioQuest Alpha-Snake 25ft Interconnect
    AudioQuest HDMI-1 2m

    Alienware X51 R2
    PS4
    Samsung Smart TV 40" 1080p 3D
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  • PerfectCreature
    PerfectCreature Posts: 1,456
    edited May 2010
    Well, I got half the stuff today. Earlier than expected for sure.
    They apparently had the techflex on back-order and it was a glitch in their web-page that didn't notify me. I'm going to make them anyway without the techflex for now...I'll post a before and after picture...
    No big I still have the nuts and bolts...just no body haha.
    I will start them this afternoon probably finish sometime tonight
    Receiver
    Harman Kardon HK 3490
    Speakers
    Polk Audio Monitor 50s
    Subwoofer
    Klipsch KSW-100
    Cables
    AudioQuest Rocket 33s 10ft
    AudioQuest Optilink1 2m
    AudioQuest Alpha-Snake 25ft Interconnect
    AudioQuest HDMI-1 2m

    Alienware X51 R2
    PS4
    Samsung Smart TV 40" 1080p 3D
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2010
    Boy oh boy, I can't wait to see the thread you start when you start to build or modify an amp or crossovers!:eek::D:p;)
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited May 2010
    Yeah, and I just now realized it's no longer about Jumpers anymore...
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited May 2010
    tube wrap the ends...
    Yes sir, tubes rule! Make sure you toob rap both the negative and positive wire and afterward just add a little snake oil! Man, you're gone wind-up with great high end cable at lo cost :cool:;)
    Yeah, and I just now realized it's no longer about Jumpers anymore...
    Yeah, you now realize it's about high end cables, right?
    DARE TO SOAR:
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  • reberly
    reberly Posts: 173
    edited May 2010
    yeah perfectC has dragged out this thread for jumpers so long i think the whole Polkie community is on pins and needles waiting for the end result. I am not even sure why I keep checking this thread but I just have to see what the next update will be

    Good Luck PerfectC
    Onkyo TX-SR805
    Polk LSi15 , LSiC, LSiFX
    Parasound Halo A52
    Panasonic 42'' Plasma
    Oppo BDP-83
    Sonos
    Panamax 4300
    Audioquest cables
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  • PerfectCreature
    PerfectCreature Posts: 1,456
    edited May 2010
    reberly--Question. How do you like your audioquest cables I was thinking about buying some a little later down the road.
    Second. As for snake oil...oh there's going to be some much your going to think your looking at the snake. :)

    Anyway. Just braided it. Blue is 14 gauge and will go to my tweets. Gold is 12 and will got to the mids.
    The red. well that's just the carpet :cool:
    As for the spades, well I guess my receiver cannot accept those. Lame...but whatever I guess strait wire will do.
    As for the ends...I will do spades for the mids and bananas for the highs. Wrap em off. Have cables pands on each section wrap that off with bigger shrink..you'll see

    ps...dont mind all the electrical tape and cable labels.
    How does it looks...I hope the half inch techflex will fit over it...
    After my buds leave I'ma shrink the ends and make it all purty like and post the 2nd of the 3 pics.
    Receiver
    Harman Kardon HK 3490
    Speakers
    Polk Audio Monitor 50s
    Subwoofer
    Klipsch KSW-100
    Cables
    AudioQuest Rocket 33s 10ft
    AudioQuest Optilink1 2m
    AudioQuest Alpha-Snake 25ft Interconnect
    AudioQuest HDMI-1 2m

    Alienware X51 R2
    PS4
    Samsung Smart TV 40" 1080p 3D
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  • PerfectCreature
    PerfectCreature Posts: 1,456
    edited May 2010
    My sizes for most of my stuff was way off.
    I am going to just give this idea up for now. It was a fun experience though.
    I learned quite a lot actually.
    I think I will stick to buying prepaid wire at the moment.
    I am going to pick up 100 feet or some of like 16 gauge wire at lowes and try it that way I think my wires were to big...
    Receiver
    Harman Kardon HK 3490
    Speakers
    Polk Audio Monitor 50s
    Subwoofer
    Klipsch KSW-100
    Cables
    AudioQuest Rocket 33s 10ft
    AudioQuest Optilink1 2m
    AudioQuest Alpha-Snake 25ft Interconnect
    AudioQuest HDMI-1 2m

    Alienware X51 R2
    PS4
    Samsung Smart TV 40" 1080p 3D
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  • reberly
    reberly Posts: 173
    edited May 2010
    PerfectCreature wrote: »
    My sizes for most of my stuff was way off.
    I am going to just give this idea up for now. It was a fun experience though.
    I learned quite a lot actually.
    I think I will stick to buying prepaid wire at the moment.
    I am going to pick up 100 feet or some of like 16 gauge wire at lowes and try it that way I think my wires were to big...

    You put us on an emotional roller coaster and you better not quit now.

    You asked before about my AQ cables. When I bought my LSi15's I hooked them right into the AQ Type 4 cables so I have no comparison of a before/after. I decided on this brand after many positive reviews from Polkies and I think they sound great
    Onkyo TX-SR805
    Polk LSi15 , LSiC, LSiFX
    Parasound Halo A52
    Panasonic 42'' Plasma
    Oppo BDP-83
    Sonos
    Panamax 4300
    Audioquest cables
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