* FIRST POST! * my 2 channel system, now featuring Polk LSi speakers!

aquaphileaquaphile Posts: 5
edited July 29 in 2 Channel Audio
Hello Polk forum!

I'd like to share my hifi, which has been a work in progress over the last... 8 years or so. I decided to join this forum as my latest upgrade is a pair of new-to-me LSi25's :D

So my girlfiend-now-fiance and I are estate sale junkies. When she comes across audio gear and speakers when cruising online listings, she will ask if it's worth investigating and/or pursuing. Usually it isn't. I heard "is Polk Audio any good?" and knew that was a wide spectrum of chance. But in the pics I recognized the wooden cheeks of the LSi series and remembered that was their flagship series. I head over that day, and see the two towers and what appears to be a matching sub in the corner. The set of three is listed at $500... *sigh* I already have too many speakers and that's a bit steeper than I would like. I ask if they are taking offers, which they are, but they must be at least half; and I hear the speakers have an offer in. I give an offer of $275 thinking "can't say I didn't try!" ......................... and then I receive a call-back the next afternoon!! Gimme an hour! Pulling out the speakers let me see everything, two LSi25s and a single LSi9 that when I saw buried a few days ago I assumed was a sub. SCORE!!

When I first had the LSi's, they were powered by an Adcom GFA-2535, which is a 4ch amp rated at 90w @ 4ohms. This allowed me to truly bi-amp, which I was already doing with my previous speakers. Some months later, I find another estate sale score... a Rotel RB-980bx in near perfect shape. And on "half off" day at that! Although the Adcom is plenty high current, the Rotel proved to be a significant step up. The 980bx is rated at 220w @ 4ohms, and clearly gives the Polks more of what the want. It was easy to assume that in a modest sized living room with condo-appropriate listening levels the Adcom would be more than adequate, but that still doesn't change the efficiency of the speakers or *their needs* ...per say.

Between the speakers and amp upgrade, they have given a huge step up at a total investment for not quite $400. The speakers have a few tiny dings, but nothing distracting and all drivers are in perfect shape. The grills are a bit rough, but who uses those anyway. Overall, they appeared to have a typical upscale suburban basement life.

If I ever switch from 2ch to HT, I plan on using the single LSi9 as a center channel. There are obviously LSiC's floating around, but I have this lying around waiting for use. That will be after a move sometime in the future, and who knows... I may stay 2ch forever ;) I actually more often dream about setting up hard-wired zones (indoor and outdoor). I would like to have matching amps, But owning an Adcom and Rotel give me many, many options on the 2nd hand market. I enjoy stalking listings online, but I'll probably wait for a local score.



Other stuff/system list

Polk LSi25
Rotel RB980bx
Martin Logan Dynamo w/Auralex Subdude II
Marantz SR4023 (pre and phono duty)
Pro-Ject Debut III w/Herbies Way Excellent Mat
Pro-Ject Speedbox II
Ortofon 2M Blue
PS Audio Digital Link III
Apple TV (primary streaming device)
Samsung LN40D630
PS Audio Quintet
Salamander Design Archetype



Thanks for reading!!
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,400
    Welcome to Club Polk and congrats on your finds.

    A few things though, you were never bi-amping. At a bare minimum that requires totally separate amplifiers and true bi-amping requires active crossovers.

    Speakers are voiced with the grills on, therefore should be used with them on.

    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • msgmsg Posts: 4,270
    Nice setup, great deal, and welcome! B)
  • aquaphileaquaphile Posts: 5
    edited July 29
    F1nut wrote: »
    Welcome to Club Polk and congrats on your finds.

    A few things though, you were never bi-amping. At a bare minimum that requires totally separate amplifiers and true bi-amping requires active crossovers.

    Actually, it is a true 4 channel amp. The Adcom GFA-2535 is essentially two GFA-535's in one chassis, aka (2x)535. When looking at the specs compared to the 535, the 2535 draws roughly double, 410va for the 535 (100w 4ohm) max vs. 840va for the 2535 (90w 4ohm).

    Below is a pic of my Adcom in use (rear views are all over google).

    1n7hnfso5sv6.jpg

    I suppose I didn't consider separate crossovers... but considering my other speakers both have two sets of binding posts, I'll probably continue running all 4 channels regardless once it is put back to work haha.

    And I'll take my chances with the grills off, I like 'em naked!
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 2,530
    Welcome to the forum. Heck of a setup for $400! Keep coming back because there are lots of great folks here to help you with your audio "habit."
    Main System:
    Joule-Electra LA 100 MKIII
    Pass Labs Aleph 30, McCormack DNA-125, Parasound A21
    Marantz SA-14S1
    Usher CP-6311/Tyler Acoustics Taylo Reference Monitor, LSA-1
    Dual SVS SB2000
    Wireworld Equinox 7 bi-wire, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 IC

    Secondary Rig:
    Parasound P5, Audio Electronics by Cary Constellation
    Marsh a200s, Audio Elecrtonics by Cary Hercules
    Pioneer Elite DV-45a, Denon DVD-2910
    Klipsch Epic CF-1, Vandersteen 3CE sig
    Analysus Plus Oval

  • Toolfan66Toolfan66 Posts: 13,867
    Welcome, very nice setup...
  • Jetmaker737Jetmaker737 Posts: 847
    Welcome. And, yeah... grills off!
    System
    Yamaha A-S3000 Integrated Amplifier
    Sonus Faber Cremona Loudspeakers
    PS Audio Directream Jr| Jolida JD-100A CDP | Sansui TU-717 Tuner
  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 4,625
    Nice job. Welcome to CP! :)
    7.1 - polk RTi10 x 3 (LCR) : FXi3 x 2 : RTi4 x 4 : Sunfire SDS-12 : Yamaha Aventage RX-A2040 : Adcom GFA-7500 : Squeezebox Touch : DIRECTV : Roku SE : Panasonic PT-AX200U PJ @ 120"
    5.1 - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800 x 4 : ProCenter 1000 : Klipsch Sub-10 : Pioneer Elite SC-91: DIRECTV : LG OLED55B6P : Roku Premiere+
    Garage Duty - polk Monitor 10s : Pioneer A-717 Integrated Amp : Squeezebox Classic
  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 2,148
    Welcome! Great setup, that Rotel looks really nice, as do your LSis.
    Not Tom, or Trey, or Jim
    NAD C352
    Monitor Audio Radius R90’s/Mission Freedom 770 IV
    BJC speaker cables, generic RCA’s, one homemade power cable, because that’s going to do any good with the rest of the generic ones.
    Technics SL3200 turntable and a Shure M97xE phono cartridge
    Velodyne VA-907 subwoofer
    Lafayette LR-1100 acting as a tuner and phono.
    I've always thought the goal of high end audio was not to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Turn that darn music down' but to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Tell your friends to go home and you can practice later this week'.
  • aquaphileaquaphile Posts: 5
    edited July 29
    Thanks for the kind words everyone!
    kharp1 wrote: »
    Welcome to the forum. Heck of a setup for $400...

    Well that $400 is just the speakers and amp, but at this point I would have to spend pretty big to beat the combo. Btw, you have quite a signature!
    mlistens03 wrote: »
    Welcome! Great setup, that Rotel looks really nice, as do your LSis.

    Thanks! I couldn't hep but notice the Mission Freedom's in your signature. My 2nd system features my *real* estate sale score... a pair of Mission Argonauts purchased for $50! They each have a stratch or two on the tops, but whatever!

    Here's a pic just for fun...

    tcf7ehlbk7qp.jpg

    The other is stuffed in a corner, but it also serves as bodyguard for my LSi9, which sits on top of it, still unused.

  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,400
    aquaphile wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    Welcome to Club Polk and congrats on your finds.

    A few things though, you were never bi-amping. At a bare minimum that requires totally separate amplifiers and true bi-amping requires active crossovers.

    Actually, it is a true 4 channel amp. The Adcom GFA-2535 is essentially two GFA-535's in one chassis, aka (2x)535. When looking at the specs compared to the 535, the 2535 draws roughly double, 410va for the 535 (100w 4ohm) max vs. 840va for the 2535 (90w 4ohm).

    Below is a pic of my Adcom in use (rear views are all over google).

    1n7hnfso5sv6.jpg

    I suppose I didn't consider separate crossovers... but considering my other speakers both have two sets of binding posts, I'll probably continue running all 4 channels regardless once it is put back to work haha.

    And I'll take my chances with the grills off, I like 'em naked!

    I stand somewhat corrected. It does appear to be 2 amplifiers in one chassis. Still need to use active crossovers to be true bi-amping though.

    Do you look at your speakers when listening? You shouldn't. Have you tried listening with the grills on, you might prefer to hear them the way they were intended.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • PSOVLSKPSOVLSK Posts: 3,748
    Nice pick up and nice setup.

    Hope you stick around and enjoy the forum.
    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden
  • MilitoMilito Posts: 132
    edited July 30
    Great find and nice setup.

    I use a Adcom GFA-2535 to run my 4 Aura's shakers on my sim rig. It works very well being a 4 channel amp.

    Beware this place makes you want to spend $$$$$$$$$.

    I thought my on line racing site and forum (iRacing.com) was bad, but this is much worst and that's bad when a person is retired.
  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 2,148
    mlistens03 wrote: »
    Welcome! Great setup, that Rotel looks really nice, as do your LSis.

    Thanks! I couldn't hep but notice the Mission Freedom's in your signature. My 2nd system features my *real* estate sale score... a pair of Mission Argonauts purchased for $50! They each have a stratch or two on the tops, but whatever!

    Here's a pic just for fun...

    tcf7ehlbk7qp.jpg

    The other is stuffed in a corner, but it also serves as bodyguard for my LSi9, which sits on top of it, still unused.

    [/quote]

    aaah don’t be jealous, don’t be jealous, don’t be jealous... ok I’m jealous. :tongue:
    I got my 770’s at the flea market for $75 last year, and I’ve been loving them. I have the Freedom MK IV, so it’s the model without the time-aligned baffle. I’ve heard rumors that this model sound slightly better, but I still really want MK IV’s because they just look incredible, and they still sound amazing.
    The condition of mine is pretty abysmal. Water stains on top, scratches all over the sides, etc. but the drivers are all in great condition, but still need some minor service after ~38 years, which is to be expected.
    Not Tom, or Trey, or Jim
    NAD C352
    Monitor Audio Radius R90’s/Mission Freedom 770 IV
    BJC speaker cables, generic RCA’s, one homemade power cable, because that’s going to do any good with the rest of the generic ones.
    Technics SL3200 turntable and a Shure M97xE phono cartridge
    Velodyne VA-907 subwoofer
    Lafayette LR-1100 acting as a tuner and phono.
    I've always thought the goal of high end audio was not to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Turn that darn music down' but to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Tell your friends to go home and you can practice later this week'.
  • aquaphileaquaphile Posts: 5
    Milito wrote: »
    Beware this place makes you want to spend $$$$$$$$$.

    I thought my on line racing site and forum was bad...

    Hah! I've have spent countless hours reading reviews, listings, manuals, and specs of anything and everything. From crap I pass over at thrift stores to class A amps and speakers that cost more than my car did when new. Fortunately I'm usually too cash-poor to get really foolish. Or so he says! Before this I was (am) a huge aquarium nerd, I have since stepped away from saltwater/coral reef setups. The fun of stereos is little to no recurring upkeep/costs. I'm also now a professional fish nerd, which makes for enjoyable work (for me), but less of an at-home hobby so to speak...
    mlistens03 wrote: »
    aaah don’t be jealous, don’t be jealous, don’t be jealous... ok I’m jealous

    Mwuahahahaha *evil laugh*

    Currently I'm using them with a Sony GX800ES. It isn't among the super rare/collectible ES units, but it's an ES regardless and has a (2ohm stable!) push-pull amp section. Admittedly it is too much power, especially for my small spare room. I would love to give the missions a proper room, and would like to eventually mate them with the Adcom I've been mentioning. Of course, what I would reeeally like to do is find some small tube mono amps, with one on each top of the relatively square speaker. The Argonauts are 4ohm speakers, but are 95db(!) efficient, so I've been dreaming of low power offerings.

    I have a Sony STC-7000 pre on stand by right now. It functions fine, but the volume pot could use a cleaning (I believe...), and a light or two needs replacing. These were huge money decades ago, and my future father-in-law rescued the unit CURBSIDE, so a simple service would still keep my total investment quite low for the unit, and ensure another few decades of use! Once that happens, I may switch things around and use the Sony pre with the Missions and Adcom.
  • monepolkmonepolk Posts: 861
    Nice setup and welcome to the club.
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 635
    Welcome man! Great deals and I love great deals!
  • mantismantis Posts: 15,019
    I dig the Lsi 25's. The Lsi's where that speaker that really turned it around for polk back in the day to get back into the higher end offerings.
    Those where good days.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 635
    They were. I used to drool over them when Hifibuys was still around in Atlanta. Back when more places had mid end stereo gear. Now it’s either B.B. or stupid high end in this market.
  • steveinazsteveinaz Posts: 18,396
    Welcome! Nice rig.
    Transport: Oppo BDP-103/USB HDD | Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2L | Power Amp: Parasound Halo A21 | Speakers: PSB Imagine T2 | Cables: Signal Cable XLR; Kimber 8VS Bi-Wire; Belden 1694A Dig Coax | AC Power: Panamax M5300-PM
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,294
    zuul wrote: »
    the guy.....hifi buys moniker.

    The Hifibuyguy?
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 635
    zuul wrote: »
    joecoulson wrote: »
    They were. I used to drool over them when Hifibuys was still around in Atlanta. Back when more places had mid end stereo gear. Now it’s either B.B. or stupid high end in this market.

    hifi buys is back in business in Atlanta... but now it's a high end store. the guy who used to own audio alternative bought the rights to the name and reopened with the hifi buys moniker. used to do business with them back in the old days. good people.

    Yes that’s Alan. Great guy and love that store. But I miss having showrooms a little closer to home. I’m up at Lanier.
    I did visit GA Home theater the other day, they have a stunning 20k sq foot showroom.
    But that’s on the other side of town

  • cfrizzcfrizz Posts: 13,031
    Welcome to Club Polk, nice setup enjoy.
    Sunfire TGP III PrePro, Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature 405wpc 5 ch. Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony Bravia KDL-40R510C TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Boston VR-920 Center Channel, SVS NSD-12 SB12 Subwoofer, Polk DSW 400 Subwoofer, Polk FXi-3 Surround Speakers
  • dhart86dhart86 Posts: 1,427
    welcome to club polk, nice score, nice set up, nice room
    Main Rig:
    HTPC (J River) > PS Audio Directstream Jr.>deHavilland Ultraverve 3 >Belles Reference 150a
    Harbeth C7 ES3


    Second Rig:
    HTPC (J.River)> MF V-Link> Adcom GDA 600 > Cayin TA 30 (buzzy-bee mods)
    Monitor 5 (Westmassguy-modded)


  • hochpt21hochpt21 Posts: 5,043
    Welcome.

    Beautiful room and set-up. The LSi15's were the first speaker that opened my ears.

    Enjoy..
    __________________________________________________
    2 Channel
    Turntable - VPI Scout 1.1/Ortofon 2M Blue
    Integrated Amplifier - Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum II
    Speakers - GoldenEar Triton 2
    __________________________________________________
    7.1 Home Theater
    Denon AVR-X3300W; Rotel RMB-1066; Polk CS350ls, LS90's, FXi3's, RC60i; SVS PC Ultra; BenQ W1070; Elite Screens 120"
    __________________________________________________
    Man Cave
    Turntable - 1) Pro-Ject 2.9 Wood/Grado Gold; 2) Sony PS LX410/Grado Green
    Phono Stage - PS Audio GCPH, Parks Audio Budgie; CD - Marantz DV4001
    Preamp - Dared SL2000a, Luminous Audio Axiom II; Amplifier - Parasound HCA-1500A
    Speakers - SDA 2A (x-overs etc...); Epos Epic 2; Polk Audio Monitor 70 (my first)
    __________________________________________________
  • verbverb Posts: 3,364
    Welcome! Been here since December and really enjoyed my time. Learned a lot. Laughed a lot too. And my wallet is much lighter! I’ve completely transformed my rig, and become enlightened!
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Micro Seiki MB14 TT, VTL 2.5 Pre, Marantz CD6006 CDP, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, AQ Diamondback (version 1) RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Cables
    Office: PC, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, Polk PSWi225 wireless sub, MIT AVt2 cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Auris BluMe, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
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