Silver is bright right?

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  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 6,948
    I'm surprised the Oppo isn't bright enough for you by itself, honestly.
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  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 3,361
    treitz3 wrote: »
    To answer your question Afterburnt? Yes. It shouldn't be too bright unless at ear shattering levels.

    Tom

    Well I will see in a few days if it helps my speaker sound less lazy.
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  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 3,361
    Nightfall wrote: »
    I'm surprised the Oppo isn't bright enough for you by itself, honestly.

    It helps but it's not "there"
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  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 3,361
    DSkip wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    DSkip wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    It seems Polk considers the LSiM to have an extended top end.
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    Built for ultra high performance, it boasts advanced power handling, extended dynamic range, better dispersion and extended top-end response. Get ready for incredible details and realistic imaging in everything you listen to.

    ...and you consider yourself to be a people person. Or am I wrong? >:)

    WTF are you talking about? We're talking speakers here.

    Sorry the sarcasm/joke missed. Everyone claims their speakers are extended. The point is these two have different sonic signatures and the LSiM will never sound like Usher. If he, or anyone, is wanting that, it simply won't happen. Trying to get any speaker to sound like another simply won't happen.

    If that isn't what Bruce is after, then we can look at other options. I think I know where his head is at, though I could be wrong.

    You know where I am going but I don't expect to get em to sound like Ushers, I just want them to quit sounding so damned lazy. Trying to give em that, how do the French say "I don't know what".
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    Self Control is over rated.
  • mikeyb128mikeyb128 Posts: 2,455
    Nightfall wrote: »
    I'm surprised the Oppo isn't bright enough for you by itself, honestly.

    I used an oppo 105 with my lsim 705 and it was anything but bright. Boring would be the best word to use.
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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 13,519
    Have you tried the iFi with them?
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  • DarqueKnightDarqueKnight Posts: 6,120
    afterburnt wrote: »
    So do yooz think that lets say some silver ICS could liven up my Slim 707's?

    I don't know if generalizing silver as "bright" is accurate. I've heard harsh and bright sounding cables made with silver, silver/copper, and copper. The ICs and speaker cables in my 2 channel system are all solid silver (AudioQuest) and are very natural sounding. Same goes for the silver (Reveloution Audio Labs) and silver/copper (Signal Cable) cables in my home theater system.

    You just can't look at a cable's conductor metal and think it will sound a certain way. The way the metal is drawn, finished, insulated, and the way the conductors are arranged (twist geometry) and terminated affect the sound.

    I have only heard the 707s once, and I certainly would not characterize them as dull or slow sounding. I think you might want to look at another source. I have the Oppo 103 and I found it to be unlistenable with the 705s for music.

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  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 12,203
    Fair enough but if he puts on Ben's IC's? He'll have more life and a laid back sound.

    Tom
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

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  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 3,361
    DSkip wrote: »
    Have you tried the iFi with them?

    Who me? I tried to hook up the nano but I think I need the drivers and can only use the PC for a source. Volts loaned me his Micro that I can hook up to the Oppo and HAD that I am going to try.
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  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 3,361
    afterburnt wrote: »
    So do yooz think that lets say some silver ICS could liven up my Slim 707's?

    I don't know if generalizing silver as "bright" is accurate. I've heard harsh and bright sounding cables made with silver, silver/copper, and copper. The ICs and speaker cables in my 2 channel system are all solid silver (AudioQuest) and are very natural sounding. Same goes for the silver (Reveloution Audio Labs) and silver/copper (Signal Cable) cables in my home theater system.

    You just can't look at a cable's conductor metal and think it will sound a certain way. The way the metal is drawn, finished, insulated, and the way the conductors are arranged (twist geometry) and terminated affect the sound.

    I have only heard the 707s once, and I certainly would not characterize them as dull or slow sounding. I think you might want to look at another source. I have the Oppo 103 and I found it to be unlistenable with the 705s for music.

    I like the sound of the Oppo better than the P5 with the 707's.
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    Self Control is over rated.
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 27,604
    I dunno about his luck with Ben's IC's. I've had them...and they did sound lively, but also with a nice tinge on those upper frequencies that I couldn't get used to.

    MY take on silver cables....
    Cheap silver cables sound just as bad as cheap copper ones.
    The more expensive silver cables sound completely different.
    Having a silver/copper combo might be more pleasant to the ears.
    Positioning of silver IC's within ones system is also key.
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  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 3,361
    edited July 18
    tonyb wrote: »
    I dunno about his luck with Ben's IC's. I've had them...and they did sound lively, but also with a nice tinge on those upper frequencies that I couldn't get used to.

    MY take on silver cables....
    Cheap silver cables sound just as bad as cheap copper ones.
    The more expensive silver cables sound completely different.
    Having a silver/copper combo might be more pleasant to the ears.
    Positioning of silver IC's within ones system is also key.

    Tony where do you feel is the most important position?
    Post edited by afterburnt on
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    Self Control is over rated.
  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 6,948
    You guys are on a roll. You might be a minute and 30 seconds too generous though.
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  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 3,361
    Done in 30 seconds? Sounds good to me.
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  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 12,203
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Fair enough but if he puts on Ben's IC's? He'll have more life and a laid back sound.

    Tom

    *and NOT a laid back sound. This is why I hate typing on the phone. **** like this happens.

    Tom
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    The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction.
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 38,136
    Hack
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  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 12,203
    "P O O P" is censored? My word, what is this world coming too? Try to keep it clean and still get censored....

    Tom
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction.
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 38,136
    Try crap
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 12,203
    WTF?

    Tom
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction.
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 3,361
    F1nut wrote: »
    Try crap

    pass
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  • msgmsg Posts: 3,394
    treitz3 wrote: »
    "P O O P" is censored? My word, what is this world coming too? Try to keep it clean and still get censored....
    Tom
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 27,604
    afterburnt wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    I dunno about his luck with Ben's IC's. I've had them...and they did sound lively, but also with a nice tinge on those upper frequencies that I couldn't get used to.

    MY take on silver cables....
    Cheap silver cables sound just as bad as cheap copper ones.
    The more expensive silver cables sound completely different.
    Having a silver/copper combo might be more pleasant to the ears.
    Positioning of silver IC's within ones system is also key.

    Tony where do you feel is the most important position?

    Tony's old. I'm guessing missionary, lights off...

    You'd be sooo wrong, lol.

    Positioning is a matter of experimenting. Personally I find between the pre and the amp to have the most noticeable effect. The last leg before it hits the speakers.
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  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 12,203
    You have weird sexual positions Tony. Truth be told, you are a strange man....and so is she.

    OH! You are talking about audio.....never mind. You had me scared for a second.

    Tom
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction.
  • lightman1lightman1 Posts: 8,595
    treitz3 wrote: »
    You have weird sexual positions Tony. Truth be told, you are a strange man....and so is she.

    OH! You are talking about audio.....never mind. You had me scared for a second.

    Tom

    Yup.... No scroggin allowed on the gear...... B)
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