Keeping Nuke's Safe (Were So F'ed)

gimpodgimpod Posts: 1,651
And you thought Russia had problems with nuke's, If you've got Netflix check this out "Command and Control".

Or if your a PBS member go here "Command and Control"

I think I'm going to do what SAC is doing, Stick my head in the sand and ignore it.

This is scary!!
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  • warrenwarren Posts: 457
    Dum de dum dum...... ta ta!!!
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 2,922
    I have been watching the kind of morons they put in charge of serious stuff all of my life and I am surprised that we are still here. Well maybe we are not and we are just batteries in pods filled with slime?
  • gimpodgimpod Posts: 1,651
    @afterburnt have you been watching "Year Million"
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 2,922
    gimpod wrote: »
    @afterburnt have you been watching "Year Million"

    Nope, just been watching
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 13,897
    Y'all might enjoy this book :)

    http://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Raven-Rock/Garrett-M-Graff/9781476735405

    raven-rock-9781476735405_lg.jpg

    Heard an interview with the author on VT public radio a coupla weeks back -- sounds like a fun read :)

    http://digital.vpr.net/post/raven-rock-and-us-governments-flawed-plan-survive-nuclear-attack#stream/0
  • rpf65rpf65 Posts: 1,325
    Watching the scary things and actually putting hands on them are two different things. Watch it again, and notice who is actually in charge, and who is staying out of the way.

    There are situations where rank means little compared to experience, or in this case the better trained sudordinates.
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 27,210
    Nukes, a necessary evil to deter evil. Only....once one person pulls the trigger, they all will, and that sends everyone to the graveyard or stone age.

    Accidents happen though, for whatever reason, just look at the nuclear power plant fiascos we've had here, Russia/Japan. A missile crisis ? Bound to happen, be it from stupidity or unseen circumstances.

    Seems to me though, common sense has left the building and complacency has set in. Would one consider it wise to have nuclear anything near a fault line ? I dunno, but one accident is all it takes, and that to me is inevitable.
  • tonyp063tonyp063 Posts: 194
    but one accident is all it takes, and that to me is inevitable.

    Murphy's Law *always* wins. And is unforgiving.
  • westmassguywestmassguy Posts: 5,562
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_close_calls
    Also, it's been reported that parts of our systems still utilize floppy disks
  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 1,797
    ^^know why they still use the floppy? It can't be hacked.
  • westmassguywestmassguy Posts: 5,562
    ^^know why they still use the floppy? It can't be hacked.
    Didn't know that was the reason.
  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 1,797
    edited June 13
    I didn't know it either until I saw it on , I think 60 minutes. They were given a tour of a launch control site. They look so archaic not much changed since the 50's/60's. Although they need updated they are reluctant to do so as it would make the systems vulnerable to hacking.
  • nbrowsernbrowser Posts: 6,272
    I didn't know it either until I saw it on , I think 60 minutes. They were given a tour of a launch control site. They look so archaic not much changed since the 50's/60's. Although they need updated they are reluctant to do so as it would make the systems vulnerable to hacking.

    A good reason why newer isn't always better. Hey Micro$oft...look here hint hint (Win8/10 BS spyware)
  • gimpodgimpod Posts: 1,651
    tonyb wrote: »
    Nukes, a necessary evil to deter evil. Only....once one person pulls the trigger, they all will, and that sends everyone to the graveyard or stone age.

    Accidents happen though, for whatever reason, just look at the nuclear power plant fiascos we've had here, Russia/Japan. A missile crisis ? Bound to happen, be it from stupidity or unseen circumstances.

    Seems to me though, common sense has left the building and complacency has set in. Would one consider it wise to have nuclear anything near a fault line ? I dunno, but one accident is all it takes, and that to me is inevitable.

    @tonyb if you watched this did you notice near the end that the head guy of the agency that's suppose to insure nuke safety was shocked to find out that there has been over 1000 reported U.S. accidents alone, Don't forget about the Mark 15 nuclear bomb in the waters off Tybee Island near Savannah, Georgia, United States. It has yet to be found.
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 27,210
    gimpod wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    Nukes, a necessary evil to deter evil. Only....once one person pulls the trigger, they all will, and that sends everyone to the graveyard or stone age.

    Accidents happen though, for whatever reason, just look at the nuclear power plant fiascos we've had here, Russia/Japan. A missile crisis ? Bound to happen, be it from stupidity or unseen circumstances.

    Seems to me though, common sense has left the building and complacency has set in. Would one consider it wise to have nuclear anything near a fault line ? I dunno, but one accident is all it takes, and that to me is inevitable.

    @tonyb if you watched this did you notice near the end that the head guy of the agency that's suppose to insure nuke safety was shocked to find out that there has been over 1000 reported U.S. accidents alone, Don't forget about the Mark 15 nuclear bomb in the waters off Tybee Island near Savannah, Georgia, United States. It has yet to be found.

    LOL, ya know pal, I heard about that even before and it makes ya wonder why nobody thinks this is a priority to find a lost nuclear bomb. You would think with the technology we have today, oh well.....once it goes off, they'll know where it is, right ?

    After all, more important issues occupy the military's time, like sex changes for traitors and transgender policies. Of course one must take these stories with a grain of salt also. Who knows, could be a cover story for a sold nuclear bomb. Wouldn't be the first time the military used a cover story to hide crap. One has to wonder, the lack of desire to find this thing tells me ......is it really missing ?
  • mrbigbluelightmrbigbluelight Posts: 7,027
    "Feelings" over "fusion".

    That sounds fair. And all-inclusive.
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 15,886
    The Mk15 off of Savannah cannot self detonate. What I heard about that weapon is that it was not fused, meaning the detonator needed to start the chain reaction required to explode was never installed. The weapon itself is safe, but the material in it will someday be exposed to sea water and be a contamination nightmare.
  • Strong BadStrong Bad Posts: 4,128
    I have to laugh at all the preppers building underground bunkers and stocking them with supplies claiming..."We'll have what we need to ride out a nuclear holcaust."

    If there is a Nuclear Holocaust...the best thing for me is to get vaporized instantly. No way do I want to be around for the aftermath.

    Blinding flash of light...gone.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 13,897
    Strong Bad wrote: »
    I have to laugh at all the preppers building underground bunkers and stocking them with supplies claiming..."We'll have what we need to ride out a nuclear holcaust."

    If there is a Nuclear Holocaust...the best thing for me is to get vaporized instantly. No way do I want to be around for the aftermath.

    Blinding flash of light...gone.
    [emphasis added]


  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 8,953
    Strong Bad wrote: »
    I have to laugh at all the preppers building underground bunkers and stocking them with supplies claiming..."We'll have what we need to ride out a nuclear holcaust."

    If there is a Nuclear Holocaust...the best thing for me is to get vaporized instantly. No way do I want to be around for the aftermath.

    Blinding flash of light...gone.

    I don't know. Ever play Fallout?

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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 27,210
    Strong Bad wrote: »
    If there is a Nuclear Holocaust...the best thing for me is to get vaporized instantly. No way do I want to be around for the aftermath.

    Blinding flash of light...gone.

    Cool man, myself on the other hand, I'll gladly take up the responsibility of having to re-populate the planet. ;)
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 13,897
    tonyb wrote: »
    Strong Bad wrote: »
    If there is a Nuclear Holocaust...the best thing for me is to get vaporized instantly. No way do I want to be around for the aftermath.

    Blinding flash of light...gone.

    Cool man, myself on the other hand, I'll gladly take up the responsibility of having to re-populate the planet. ;)

    Careful what you wish for -- natural selection might not select for the most... shall we say... attractive breeding stock relative to pre-fallout expectations ;)
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 27,210
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    Strong Bad wrote: »
    If there is a Nuclear Holocaust...the best thing for me is to get vaporized instantly. No way do I want to be around for the aftermath.

    Blinding flash of light...gone.

    Cool man, myself on the other hand, I'll gladly take up the responsibility of having to re-populate the planet. ;)

    Careful what you wish for -- natural selection might not select for the most... shall we say... attractive breeding stock relative to pre-fallout expectations ;)

    2 words for ya Professor,

    Paper
    Bags
    :)
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 13,897
    Point.
    Taken.

    :)

    (as long as a few survive the fireball, eh?)
  • ROHfanROHfan Posts: 1,001
    If there's a nuclear launch my family and I are going to go and catch it with out bare hands. I agree with Strong Bad. We're all gonna die, anyway.
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 15,886
    edited June 18
    ROHfan wrote: »
    If there's a nuclear launch my family and I are going to go and catch it with out bare hands. I agree with Strong Bad. We're all gonna die, anyway.
    Not entirely true. It will depend on the type of exchange. The U.S., Russia, and other nation states will never release a full scale attack on the other. What is seen as the most likely would be an EMP attack, which would devastate infrastructure, essentially knocking the United States back to a Pre 1850 type of existence. The ability to mount such an attack is very nearly in the hands of Iran and North Korea. It is expected that 50% of the U.S. population would die off within a year in such a scenario, but not from radiation.

    The key to surviving this scenario is preparation.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 13,897
    ...

    The key to surviving this scenario is preparation.

    Is there an iPhone app for that? ;)

    18741700823_4ec84ea83a_b.jpg002 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr


  • gimpodgimpod Posts: 1,651
    tonyb wrote: »
    LOL, ya know pal, I heard about that even before and it makes ya wonder why nobody thinks this is a priority to find a lost nuclear bomb. You would think with the technology we have today, oh well.....once it goes off, they'll know where it is, right ?

    After all, more important issues occupy the military's time, like sex changes for traitors and transgender policies. Of course one must take these stories with a grain of salt also. Who knows, could be a cover story for a sold nuclear bomb. Wouldn't be the first time the military used a cover story to hide crap. One has to wonder, the lack of desire to find this thing tells me ......is it really missing ?

    For all we know maybe the Russians found it before we did.
    Strong Bad wrote: »
    If there is a Nuclear Holocaust...the best thing for me is to get vaporized instantly. No way do I want to be around for the aftermath.

    Blinding flash of light...gone.

    Why do you think I live with in a couple (as 2) miles of a major aircraft manufacturing plant. :sweat_smile: Ground Zero!
  • deronb1deronb1 Posts: 3,594
    gimpod wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    LOL, ya know pal, I heard about that even before and it makes ya wonder why nobody thinks this is a priority to find a lost nuclear bomb. You would think with the technology we have today, oh well.....once it goes off, they'll know where it is, right ?

    After all, more important issues occupy the military's time, like sex changes for traitors and transgender policies. Of course one must take these stories with a grain of salt also. Who knows, could be a cover story for a sold nuclear bomb. Wouldn't be the first time the military used a cover story to hide crap. One has to wonder, the lack of desire to find this thing tells me ......is it really missing ?

    For all we know maybe the Russians found it before we did.
    Strong Bad wrote: »
    If there is a Nuclear Holocaust...the best thing for me is to get vaporized instantly. No way do I want to be around for the aftermath.

    Blinding flash of light...gone.

    Why do you think I live with in a couple (as 2) miles of a major aircraft manufacturing plant. :sweat_smile: Ground Zero!

    I live about 10 miles from Wright Patterson AFB. Air force Logistics Command. Might survive the blast, but would be baked like a potato.
  • westmassguywestmassguy Posts: 5,562
    edited June 18
    I live between Barnes Airport and the 104th Fighter Wing, and Westover AFB, which was decommissioned, but still in use. I'll be Krispy Krème too.
    BTW Tony You Got Mail.
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