Replacing Yamaha RX-V2500

math wizard
math wizard Posts: 106
edited December 2008 in Electronics
I recently bought a Panasonic BD35 Blu-Ray player and am thinking about buying another receiver. I currently have a Yamaha RX-V2500 (no HDMI or DD TrueHD or DTS MA). It outputs 130w/ch. It is powering a pair of Polk Audio RTi10's, pair of Polk Audio RTiA1's, and a Polk Audio CSi5. There is also an Epik Knight sub (a beast) with the speakers crossed over at 80 hz.

I'm looking at the following receivers and would like to know how they stack up to the one I currently have. I don't want to give up any sound quality. It must also be able to run the RTi10's without a problem.

HK 354
Onkyo 806
Onkyo 706
Onkyo 876
Pioneer 1018AH
Pioneer 01TXH
Pioneer 91TXH

Thanks for any comments or advice.
Processor - Emotiva UMC-200
Pre-Amp (2 Ch) - Emotiva USP-1
DSP Minidsp nanoAVR DL
DAC (2 Ch) - Emotiva XDA-2
Amp (Fronts) - Emotiva XPA-2
Amp (Center/Surrounds) - Emotiva XPA-3
CD - Emotiva ERC-1
Fronts - Polk Audio RTi 12
Center - Polk Audio CSi5
Rears - Polk Audio RTiA1
Sub - Epik Knight
Sub EQ - Velodyne SMS-1
Monitor - Sony XBR65X850C
Blu-Ray - OPPO BDP-203
Network Media Player - Chromecast Ultra
Power Conditioner - APC H15
Power Conditioner - Emotiva CMX-2
PVR - DirecTV C61k
Remote - Harmony Touch w/Hub
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,246
    edited December 2008
    If you really like your receiver, there's no need to replace it...if the Panny has 5.1/7.1 analog out & your AVR has 5.1/7.1 inputs. This way the player does the decoding & sends it thru the analog cables. This is what I'm planning on doing with my NAD T773 & future BD player.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • Motzart
    Motzart Posts: 1,075
    edited December 2008
    I'd never get away from a Yammy!
    Sounds like you have one of the higher end ones?
    I'd be hard pressed to replace that....looks pretty feature packed!

    http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=200004&CTID=5000300&ATRID=1000&DETYP=ATTRIBUTE

    Anything you'd gain with replacing it probably isn't worth the hassle.
    At best I'd get a better Yammy maybe....if ya never had trouble with yours why switch brands?

    Yamaha RX-A710 90Watt 7.1
    Mains: RTi A1's Center: CS150 Sats: RT15i's Sub: Velodyne DPS-10
    Music CD: Sony CDP-CE375 5 Disk
    HD TV: Vizio 42" LCD 1080p E420VO
    Blu-Ray: Sony BDP-S350
    DVD: Sony DVP-NC665P 5 Disk
    AV Rack: Sanus Euro EFAB-II Audio Base x2 EFAS-II Audio Expansion Shelf x4
    Cables Used: Monster Cable HPD Sony HDMI DLCHE18W
    Phones: Sennheiser HD280 Pro
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  • math wizard
    math wizard Posts: 106
    edited December 2008
    pearsall001 wrote: »
    If you really like your receiver, there's no need to replace it...if the Panny has 5.1/7.1 analog out & your AVR has 5.1/7.1 inputs. This way the player does the decoding & sends it thru the analog cables. This is what I'm planning on doing with my NAD T773 & future BD player.

    I thought about doing this, but this receiver is not capable of boosting the LFE level through the analog inputs. LFE is encoded 10db to 15db lower than the other tracks. If the decoding is done in the receiver, the LFE level would be raised to compensate for this. In the player, this does not happen, and most Blu-Ray player's bass managment abilities won't let you adequately raise the LFE level. Some newer receivers allow bass boosting via analog. Unfortunately, mine is not one of them. Thanks for the reply.
    Processor - Emotiva UMC-200
    Pre-Amp (2 Ch) - Emotiva USP-1
    DSP Minidsp nanoAVR DL
    DAC (2 Ch) - Emotiva XDA-2
    Amp (Fronts) - Emotiva XPA-2
    Amp (Center/Surrounds) - Emotiva XPA-3
    CD - Emotiva ERC-1
    Fronts - Polk Audio RTi 12
    Center - Polk Audio CSi5
    Rears - Polk Audio RTiA1
    Sub - Epik Knight
    Sub EQ - Velodyne SMS-1
    Monitor - Sony XBR65X850C
    Blu-Ray - OPPO BDP-203
    Network Media Player - Chromecast Ultra
    Power Conditioner - APC H15
    Power Conditioner - Emotiva CMX-2
    PVR - DirecTV C61k
    Remote - Harmony Touch w/Hub
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  • bluecomet
    bluecomet Posts: 1,118
    edited December 2008
    I have the same receiver and for HT I only use Yamaha's. I guess I am use to them. If I were you I would check out the newer models of Yamaha such as the RX-V2700. I love my Yamaha's. I have the RX-V2200 and 2300 model also which are 6.1 systems. If you could find a flagship model which is one or two years old you would be in great shape. What type of money are you planning on spending.
    Polk HT system 1: LSIC, LSI25 mains, LSI F/X rears, Lsi F/X rear centers,
    Yamaha RX-V2500 System, Carver A753 3 channel amp.

    Polk HT system 2: , SRT system with f/x 1,000's rear speakers on 7.1 system currently using Onkyo TX-RZ820 receiver, powered by Sunfire Grand Theater amp

    Polk Speaker collection: SDA SRS 1.2tl x 2, SRT system, SDA SRS 2 P/B, SDA 2A, SDA 1C Studio, SDA CRS+, Monitor 7B & 4, SRS 3.1tl, RTA 15tl, LS90, LSI 9
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  • Motzart
    Motzart Posts: 1,075
    edited December 2008
    bluecomet wrote: »
    I have the same receiver and for HT I only use Yamaha's. I guess I am use to them. If I were you I would check out the newer models of Yamaha such as the RX-V2700. I love my Yamaha's. I have the RX-V2200 and 2300 model also which are 6.1 systems. If you could find a flagship model which is one or two years old you would be in great shape. What type of money are you planning on spending.


    That would be a great choice BC!!

    http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=451511&CNTYP=PRODUCT&LGFL=Y

    Wish I had the dinero I'd have one!
    IIRC they can be had on feebay NIB for about $800.

    .

    Yamaha RX-A710 90Watt 7.1
    Mains: RTi A1's Center: CS150 Sats: RT15i's Sub: Velodyne DPS-10
    Music CD: Sony CDP-CE375 5 Disk
    HD TV: Vizio 42" LCD 1080p E420VO
    Blu-Ray: Sony BDP-S350
    DVD: Sony DVP-NC665P 5 Disk
    AV Rack: Sanus Euro EFAB-II Audio Base x2 EFAS-II Audio Expansion Shelf x4
    Cables Used: Monster Cable HPD Sony HDMI DLCHE18W
    Phones: Sennheiser HD280 Pro
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  • math wizard
    math wizard Posts: 106
    edited December 2008
    Motzart wrote: »
    That would be a great choice BC!!

    http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=451511&CNTYP=PRODUCT&LGFL=Y

    Wish I had the dinero I'd have one!
    IIRC they can be had on feebay NIB for about $800.

    .

    Can the RX-V2700 accept LPCM via HDMI? My Blu-Ray player is capable of decoding DD TrueHD and DTS MA and outputting a PCM signal. If it can, this could be an option.
    Processor - Emotiva UMC-200
    Pre-Amp (2 Ch) - Emotiva USP-1
    DSP Minidsp nanoAVR DL
    DAC (2 Ch) - Emotiva XDA-2
    Amp (Fronts) - Emotiva XPA-2
    Amp (Center/Surrounds) - Emotiva XPA-3
    CD - Emotiva ERC-1
    Fronts - Polk Audio RTi 12
    Center - Polk Audio CSi5
    Rears - Polk Audio RTiA1
    Sub - Epik Knight
    Sub EQ - Velodyne SMS-1
    Monitor - Sony XBR65X850C
    Blu-Ray - OPPO BDP-203
    Network Media Player - Chromecast Ultra
    Power Conditioner - APC H15
    Power Conditioner - Emotiva CMX-2
    PVR - DirecTV C61k
    Remote - Harmony Touch w/Hub
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  • Motzart
    Motzart Posts: 1,075
    edited December 2008
    math wizard wrote: »
    Can the RX-V2700 accept LPCM via HDMI? My Blu-Ray player is capable of decoding DD TrueHD and DTS MA and outputting a PCM signal. If it can, this could be an option.

    Uhoh.......just went to a foreign language on me! :rolleyes:

    Can someone translate and help here? :o

    Yamaha RX-A710 90Watt 7.1
    Mains: RTi A1's Center: CS150 Sats: RT15i's Sub: Velodyne DPS-10
    Music CD: Sony CDP-CE375 5 Disk
    HD TV: Vizio 42" LCD 1080p E420VO
    Blu-Ray: Sony BDP-S350
    DVD: Sony DVP-NC665P 5 Disk
    AV Rack: Sanus Euro EFAB-II Audio Base x2 EFAS-II Audio Expansion Shelf x4
    Cables Used: Monster Cable HPD Sony HDMI DLCHE18W
    Phones: Sennheiser HD280 Pro
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited December 2008
    Any of the Onkyo's would be good. I have a TX-SR606...and I love it. The 706, 806 and 876 are all fantastic receivers too. I wanted to get the 706 or 806 when I was shopping for a receiver, but my budget didn't really allow it. Personally I'd recommend one of the Onkyo's, but if you're happy with the sound that you're Yamaha puts out, you may be best off just upgrading to a newer Yamaha with more updated features
    The nirvana inducer-
    APC H10 Power Conditioner
    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
    PolkAudio LSi9's/PolkAudio SDA 2A's/PolkAudio Monitor 7A's
    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
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  • bigred7078
    bigred7078 Posts: 477
    edited December 2008
    Motzart wrote: »
    Uhoh.......just went to a foreign language on me! :rolleyes:

    Can someone translate and help here? :o

    in a nutshell some of the older HDMI capable receivers did not have built in decoders for the new HD audio formats (DDTrueHD and DTS MA). But they were rated at i believe HDMI spec V.1.2 which was capable of accepting an audio signal over HDMI, just the player itself had to do the decoding. So you set the player to internally decode by selecting the PCM audio out instead of having it bitstream (or sending the raw data for the receiver to decode). This is what all PS3 owners must do in order to hear the new codecs.

    So you really dont need an v1.3 rated reciver these days, although you might as well for the prices.


    Now on another note, wasnt the yammy 2500 an older high end model? I believe you would probably benefit yourself more by getting into the brand new RX-V1900 or RX-V3900 yamahas. You can find the 1900 for around $800 and 3900 for around $1349. Im thinking about picking up the V3900 (until the emotiva XMC-1 comes out) because of its feature set. It has a wonderful GUI with on-screen volume overlay over HDMI, It has an anchor bay video processing chip, 140x7 watts, 4 hdmi inputs and 2 simultaneous hdmi outs, Burr-Brown dac's, and of course it decodes all the newest audio formats.
    Pro-ject RM-9.1 w/ Grado Sonata 1 -> USP-1 -> RPA-1 -> Vienna Acoustics Mozart Grands
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  • Motzart
    Motzart Posts: 1,075
    edited December 2008
    Bigred really has some food for thought there!!
    Newer unit is a much better idea for all the latest formats available.

    RX-V1900

    http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=5016804&CNTYP=PRODUCT

    RX-V3900

    http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=5016803&CNTYP=PRODUCT

    Yamaha RX-A710 90Watt 7.1
    Mains: RTi A1's Center: CS150 Sats: RT15i's Sub: Velodyne DPS-10
    Music CD: Sony CDP-CE375 5 Disk
    HD TV: Vizio 42" LCD 1080p E420VO
    Blu-Ray: Sony BDP-S350
    DVD: Sony DVP-NC665P 5 Disk
    AV Rack: Sanus Euro EFAB-II Audio Base x2 EFAS-II Audio Expansion Shelf x4
    Cables Used: Monster Cable HPD Sony HDMI DLCHE18W
    Phones: Sennheiser HD280 Pro
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  • bluecomet
    bluecomet Posts: 1,118
    edited December 2008
    That RX-V3900 is sweet. I would keep an eye out for a deal on that one.
    Polk HT system 1: LSIC, LSI25 mains, LSI F/X rears, Lsi F/X rear centers,
    Yamaha RX-V2500 System, Carver A753 3 channel amp.

    Polk HT system 2: , SRT system with f/x 1,000's rear speakers on 7.1 system currently using Onkyo TX-RZ820 receiver, powered by Sunfire Grand Theater amp

    Polk Speaker collection: SDA SRS 1.2tl x 2, SRT system, SDA SRS 2 P/B, SDA 2A, SDA 1C Studio, SDA CRS+, Monitor 7B & 4, SRS 3.1tl, RTA 15tl, LS90, LSI 9
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,324
    edited December 2008
    I say go for the Pioneer ELite 01 or 03. These receivers are killer. For the money I find them to lead the pack. The new Onkyo receivers are also nice but you may not like there sound quality. You would have to go listen to them.

    Dan
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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  • kep
    kep Posts: 4
    edited December 2008
    YEPP



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  • bigred7078
    bigred7078 Posts: 477
    edited December 2008
    mantis wrote: »
    I say go for the Pioneer ELite 01 or 03. These receivers are killer. For the money I find them to lead the pack. The new Onkyo receivers are also nice but you may not like there sound quality. You would have to go listen to them.

    Dan

    But why they are almost identical to the Pio 1018.

    Only differences are
    -Elite on the front
    -One year more warranty
    -and trigger outs.

    They are much more expensive for little gain. If you go pioneer you really need to look into the SC-05, 07's. They are the ones that are feature packed.
    Pro-ject RM-9.1 w/ Grado Sonata 1 -> USP-1 -> RPA-1 -> Vienna Acoustics Mozart Grands
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited December 2008
    I have the 2500 and if I were to upgrade, I would go amp/pre-amp combo. For the price of the higher end AVR's you could look at Outlaw. Aside from that, I like the Rotel AVR's I have seen.
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
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