Anything wrong with buying just a 2 channel amp for a 5.1?

Dannieboiz
Dannieboiz Posts: 242
edited November 2007 in Electronics
I just bought an RTi10 and an AVR-745 I've been lurking around and see that most most people recommend a seperate amp for them.

When I listen to them, I can definitely tell that the CSi5 in the middle of both is sounds louder than both RTi10, it does sound like it needs a little more umph. Instead of getting a 5 channel amp, to reduce cost can I just get a 2 channel amp?
Sammy UN55C6400
Onkyo TX-SR875
Def Tech: Mythos One, Three, Six
Velodyne DPS-12
MartinLogan Dynamo 10
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited November 2007
    yeah, just calibrate it after you get it set up to make sure the levels are all similar.

    I used a stereo amp on my fronts, then 2 monos, now a 3-channel. As long as you set it up right and calibrate it, should sound great.
    Stereo Rig: Hales Revelation 3, Musical Fidelity CD-Pre 24, Forte Model 3 amp, Lexicon RT-10 SACD, MMF-5 w/speedbox, Forte Model 2 Phono Pre, Cardas Crosslink, APC H15, URC MX-950, Lovan Stand
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  • Dannieboiz
    Dannieboiz Posts: 242
    edited November 2007
    Any suggestions as far as brand, wattage etc..? I've never used an external amp before.
    Sammy UN55C6400
    Onkyo TX-SR875
    Def Tech: Mythos One, Three, Six
    Velodyne DPS-12
    MartinLogan Dynamo 10
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited November 2007
    As noted above, make sure you run the auto-calibration (or calibrate manually) first. Some of us run our center channels slightly louder as most of the dialogue in movies comes from that channel. Adding an external amp isn't going to necessarily correct the difference in loudness. The RTi10's would probably benefit from external amplification, but more for better sound quality and dynamics than to make them louder.
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited November 2007
    dkg999 already mentioned what I was going to say. Your sound level problem is a calibration issue. As for getting separate amp, nothing wrong with getting a 2ch amp.
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited November 2007
    Any of the major brands, Adcom, Parasound, B&K, Outlaw, Sunfire, etc. You can look on Audiogon or eBay for good deals on used amplifiers. You might check out Emotiva amplifiers as they seem to be getting some good reviews and are reasonably priced. As far as wattage, anything over 100 wpc with plenty of dynamic reserve will work, unless you are trying to achieve nuclear SPL.

    There will be someone along shortly to tell you that anything less than 200 wpc is not acceptable ;)
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
  • jwhitakr
    jwhitakr Posts: 568
    edited November 2007
    I'm running external 2-ch amps for my center, left and right channels in a 5.1 setup and am happy with the results so far. The center channel amp is bridged, and the other 2-ch amp is powering my left and right channels.

    I'd say this is a good way to try out external amps without spending a lot of money, and still allowing your AVR to power your surround channels. Beware of upgraditis, though...once you experience the benefits of external amplification, you will quickly discover that you want more power for all channels. :)
    My HT
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    AVR: Harman Kardon AVR 235
    Video: 80GB PS3, Toshiba HD-XA1 HD DVD
    Fronts: Polk Audio RTi8
    Center: Polk Audio CSi3
    Amp: Emotiva LPA-1
    Surrounds: Polk Audio R150
    Sub: HSU STF-3


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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited November 2007
    Check out Icepower amps, www.d-sonic.net. You can find them in Rotel, PS Audio and a few more. They run very cool, and are price very reasonable. I should have my new D-Sonic Magnum 1000S this week, Monday/Tueday at latest. Heres what they look like in a real picture.
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  • thejck
    thejck Posts: 849
    edited November 2007
    i just put a hca-1500a 2 channel amp by parasound in my HT rig to power my fronts. the center and the 2 rear are still powered by the AVR. I like it seems a lot of strain has been lifted from the AVR.
  • MADGSF
    MADGSF Posts: 603
    edited November 2007
    Since you are buying an amp I suggest you consider a three channel so you can amp the CSi-5 as well. I feel it helped with dialog on my system and the center is very important for HT.
    AVR: Elite VSX-21TXH
    Amplifier: B&K 7250 Series ii
    Misc: Velodyne SMS-1
    Mains: RTi-10
    Center: CSi-5
    Rear: Boston DSi460
    Sub: SVS PC-Ultra
    TV: Panasonic TC-P58V10
    DVD: Panasonic DMP-BD60K
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited November 2007
    +1000 on that!!!:D:D:D

    jwhitakr wrote: »
    Beware of upgraditis, though...once you experience the benefits of external amplification, you will quickly discover that you want more power for all channels. :)
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2