bi-wiring cable

Options
Soccerplyr
Soccerplyr Posts: 160
edited December 2002 in Basic Hookup/Wiring Questions
Question for everyone. I'm going to make my own bi-wiring cable and was wondering if anyone has done it? If so could you possibly post a picture and discribe the materials used.

Thanks,
Jeff
Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH
Monolith 7x200 Amplifier
Harmony Hub
Sony VLP-HW40ES
Visualapex 106" Electric Screen
Oppo BDP-103
Music Hall MMF 2.1
Polk LSiM 705
Polk LSiM704c
Polk LSiM702F/X
SVS PB-2000
Post edited by Soccerplyr on
· Share on FacebookShare on Twitter

Comments

  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,056
    edited December 2002
    Options
    easy........

    buy a 4 conductor speaker wire cable........14 guage or better,twist the 2 positive leads together,and the negitive leads together,terminate if you want.......at the other end you'll have 4 conductors,terminate if you want,remove the jumpers..match the colors and your home free.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,056
    edited December 2002
    Options
    these are my Bi wires........
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,795
    edited December 2002
    Options
    Wires...... Bi mantis :p
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,056
    edited December 2002
    Options
    F1nut,
    I like your sig.........

    Bi Mantis...........ok ok.........but don't worry I'm not coming out of a closet.I'm not in the closet.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Soccerplyr
    Soccerplyr Posts: 160
    edited December 2002
    Options
    That's the end I have no trouble with. I'm curious about the end that goes into the receiver. I'm planning on using two runs of monster speaker wire (the thickest they have), and wonder if I can get it to fit. I will more then likely use terminals, perhaps one banana and one flex end so that i can get it all to fit into one speaker input. Could you show me the other end of the cable?
    Thanks-
    Jeff
    Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH
    Monolith 7x200 Amplifier
    Harmony Hub
    Sony VLP-HW40ES
    Visualapex 106" Electric Screen
    Oppo BDP-103
    Music Hall MMF 2.1
    Polk LSiM 705
    Polk LSiM704c
    Polk LSiM702F/X
    SVS PB-2000
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,795
    edited December 2002
    Options
    Dan,

    Thanks, I learned that one from my father in more ways than one!

    Funny how you took that.......suppose to be, wires.... by mantis, get it? :D

    Jesse
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • audionutt
    audionutt Posts: 97
    edited December 2002
    Options
    Originally posted by F1nut
    Wires...... Bi mantis :p

    bi mantis.....that could open up a whole other can of worms.

    joe
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
    edited December 2002
    Options
    I use 13awg silver coated copper for the highs. For the lows I braided 3 pieces of 22awg copper. The amp end is just twisted together without terminals.

    Sorry, but I don't have a digital camera or scanner.
    Make it Funky! :)
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,056
    edited December 2002
    Options
    F1nut,
    Wires...... Bi mantis
    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.My own signature wires.....how cool would that be to say your system is wired by Mantis?:p .

    Soccerplyr,
    I don't see your problem.Do you own wire now you want to use for this wire adventure?Or are you shopping around?
    Dude if you want to make your own Bi wires,I suggest you use a 4 conductor wire, and terminate the ends with Banana plugs.This is exaclty what mopst wire companies use to make there pre amde bi wire cables.Then you have NO problems connecting the wire to the receiver.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Soccerplyr
    Soccerplyr Posts: 160
    edited December 2002
    Options
    mantis-

    You're probably right, I just get monster stuff cheap and I don't think they have any four conductor wire. What kind did you use, where did you get it?

    Jeff
    Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH
    Monolith 7x200 Amplifier
    Harmony Hub
    Sony VLP-HW40ES
    Visualapex 106" Electric Screen
    Oppo BDP-103
    Music Hall MMF 2.1
    Polk LSiM 705
    Polk LSiM704c
    Polk LSiM702F/X
    SVS PB-2000
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,056
    edited December 2002
    Options
    yes they do.
    Monster has tons of bulk 4 conductor wire.14 x 4 would be a good wire.

    I use Monstercable M1.4s bi wires.They are premade.15 feet,they are 300.00.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Soccerplyr
    Soccerplyr Posts: 160
    edited December 2002
    Options
    Ouch $300, I think I can make it for around $50
    Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH
    Monolith 7x200 Amplifier
    Harmony Hub
    Sony VLP-HW40ES
    Visualapex 106" Electric Screen
    Oppo BDP-103
    Music Hall MMF 2.1
    Polk LSiM 705
    Polk LSiM704c
    Polk LSiM702F/X
    SVS PB-2000
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • MxStYlEpOlKmAn
    MxStYlEpOlKmAn Posts: 2,116
    edited December 2002
    Options
    Ouch $300, I think I can make it for around $50 ---

    Excuse me while I get off the floor....LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Damn you all, damn you all to hell.......
    I promised myself
    No more speakers. None. Nada. And then you posted this!!!!
    Damn you all! - ATC
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Soccerplyr
    Soccerplyr Posts: 160
    edited December 2002
    Options
    I can get a 4 pack of monster bananas for $11 (x2), the shrink wrap for free, and the cable for $.50 a foot need 48 feet that's $24 looks like $46- hope you didn't hurt yourself while rolling on the floor.
    Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH
    Monolith 7x200 Amplifier
    Harmony Hub
    Sony VLP-HW40ES
    Visualapex 106" Electric Screen
    Oppo BDP-103
    Music Hall MMF 2.1
    Polk LSiM 705
    Polk LSiM704c
    Polk LSiM702F/X
    SVS PB-2000
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • MxStYlEpOlKmAn
    MxStYlEpOlKmAn Posts: 2,116
    edited December 2002
    Options
    LOL! well, I believed you could make it...LOL! i just found it funny how much you can save doing something yourself! THATS HALARIOUS!!!
    Damn you all, damn you all to hell.......
    I promised myself
    No more speakers. None. Nada. And then you posted this!!!!
    Damn you all! - ATC
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,056
    edited December 2002
    Options
    soccerplyr,
    no you can't.Monster M1.4s bulk wire is 7 dollars pre foot.Mine are 15 feet each.Then you need Monsterlock ends,banana tips,the pants,shrinkwrap,your time to build them.

    The fun factor is worth making wires.I have made my own bi wires in the past.You really don't save much.Add it up.
    Just the wire alone in bulk will costy you 210.00.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • scottvamp
    scottvamp Posts: 3,277
    edited December 2002
    Options
    need 48 feet
    That is why I did not bi-wire my setup. Too long of runs.
    Mantis is right, there a right way to do things - and most of the time it is expensive. If you want the results that bi-wire may have I would not just cheaply rig something up. Spend that money on some popcorn and throw in a movie.:lol: lol
    Nice bi-wire Mantis!!:cool:
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • scottvamp
    scottvamp Posts: 3,277
    edited December 2002
    Options
    Ohh ya - Mantis -How fast did you rip out the DC to take a shot of your wire. I'm still waiting for your killer HT in the Systemshowcase. Of course it has been a while now and even my HT has been very much upgraded since my first pics. Plenty of time for ya
    Hey someone has to give you $hit!! LOL
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
    edited December 2002
    Options
    If you want to try building your own check out the "Business and Industrial" section of E-bay. There's a section for wire & cable. Belden makes some good stuff.

    My 8ft runs:
    4 conductor silver coated copper $21.00
    6 conductor copper stuff laying around
    Make it Funky! :)
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,056
    edited December 2002
    Options
    I don't own a digital camera.I used Liv4fam's awhile ago.I only got a couple of pic's of my old system.I got it all out and I'm building a new one.I will post all pic's of construction of my new theater all the way threw.
    It will come around in March or so of 2003.Untill then............................................................................
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • Soccerplyr
    Soccerplyr Posts: 160
    edited December 2002
    Options
    So I did the math today to see exactly what it would cost for me to make- $51.86. That's all monster parts the mc500 cable, two sets of bananas (the new ones that come in two pieces and you screw them together). However, I will have to buy the shrink wrap because I can't get any thick enough for the two runs. Looked at ebay (thanks gidrah) and found it for an additional $10 shipped. I'll definatly post a pic when it's done next week.
    Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH
    Monolith 7x200 Amplifier
    Harmony Hub
    Sony VLP-HW40ES
    Visualapex 106" Electric Screen
    Oppo BDP-103
    Music Hall MMF 2.1
    Polk LSiM 705
    Polk LSiM704c
    Polk LSiM702F/X
    SVS PB-2000
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter