Kaleidescape Strato k
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mantis
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Hello everyone,
It's been a while since I have sold a Kaleidescape player let alone a full house system. When I worked for a company, we sold them here and there maybe 10 or less jobs a year.
One of my higher end clients who just loves buying new tech out of the blue reached out asking about the Strato K player. Now I'll admit, I was a bit rusty in my K game but I went and researched it and found it to be a pretty awesome stand alone to get you into the system player. You can add Servers and more players at will which is what he wants to do and give it a whirl.
Now he has a pretty high end system. All NAD with a Sony OLED 83 inch and Revel Speakers. It's one killer sounding system. He currently gets his media from Apple TV and also has a Panasonic UHD Blu Ray player.
We will most likely have it this week and one it's in we are going to go over there and put it in.
It got me thinking , in today's streaming more lazy world of consuming media, do you think Kaleidescape is something you would consider for your system? I'm gonna deep dive the quality as I have in the past and honestly it's superior in every way. When you spend thousands and thousands of dollars on Projectors or high end OLED's, it's not a bad idea to feed it the best signal possible. Just like us in our audio, we try to give our systems the best sounding sources so we can enjoy or speakers .
What are your thoughts?
It's been a while since I have sold a Kaleidescape player let alone a full house system. When I worked for a company, we sold them here and there maybe 10 or less jobs a year.
One of my higher end clients who just loves buying new tech out of the blue reached out asking about the Strato K player. Now I'll admit, I was a bit rusty in my K game but I went and researched it and found it to be a pretty awesome stand alone to get you into the system player. You can add Servers and more players at will which is what he wants to do and give it a whirl.
Now he has a pretty high end system. All NAD with a Sony OLED 83 inch and Revel Speakers. It's one killer sounding system. He currently gets his media from Apple TV and also has a Panasonic UHD Blu Ray player.
We will most likely have it this week and one it's in we are going to go over there and put it in.
It got me thinking , in today's streaming more lazy world of consuming media, do you think Kaleidescape is something you would consider for your system? I'm gonna deep dive the quality as I have in the past and honestly it's superior in every way. When you spend thousands and thousands of dollars on Projectors or high end OLED's, it's not a bad idea to feed it the best signal possible. Just like us in our audio, we try to give our systems the best sounding sources so we can enjoy or speakers .
What are your thoughts?
Dan
My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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Nope. I'd build my own server with clients setup to stream through Plex, Kodi, Jellyfin, or Emby. Rip the physical media, and it really can't be taken away from you (which is what I've done for almost 15 years). I don't trust that if the company ever went kaput, that all that media purchased from Kaleidoscope would disappear and I'd be left with an expensive brick. As long as someone is building Blu-ray drives for a computer, I'll be able to use my physical media.See profile for rigs. Nothing else here.
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Nope. I'd build my own server with clients setup to stream through Plex, Kodi, Jellyfin, or Emby. Rip the physical media, and it really can't be taken away from you (which is what I've done for almost 15 years). I don't trust that if the company ever went kaput, that all that media purchased from Kaleidoscope would disappear and I'd be left with an expensive brick. As long as someone is building Blu-ray drives for a computer, I'll be able to use my physical media.
Fair point.Dan
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The upfront cost for the hardware is steep for what it is, which is why I've never been interested in their systems. It may make sense for someone who hasn't accumulated a lot of physical media in 4K format or for those who can't tolerate having physical media in their living space cluttering things up. Their system relies on content downloads into a proprietary playback system to avoid bandwidth limitations of online streaming, nothing more than that really.
The thing that bugs me is if someone wants to watch a movie on the system they have to repurchase something they've probably already paid for in a different format. The price of "Cinematic 4k" content, which is really just similar to 4K disc content, can be competitive with buying physical media. Prices for true 4K video and high resolution audio content seem to range from $14.99 for older releases to $24.99 for the latest. Rentals can be $4.99 to $7.99 it seems.
Prices should be lower than for physical media since no retailer stocking charges and physical production costs for the media and cases. It's a niche product since most people are more than happy streaming content on demand. -
Some companies remove content you've purchased fair and square. I just posted a link a few months ago about that. Unless you own the physical media, you really never own anything you download. That was proven in the article I linked, they can remove or disable anything you have bought and saved to your server.
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Another drawback is that purchased content can only be viewed on a Kaleidescape hardware system since it's a proprietary closed licensing system. Also not possible to play MKV or MP4 files from a home media server through the system although a couple of my TV sets and Oppo 4K players can do that without limitations.
It seems like it might make sense for someone who has a high-end dedicated home theater room and frequently has friends and family over for latest release movie nights because of wanting to avoid the expense and irritation of going to a commercial movie theater. -
Doesn't seem like any positive feedback on this brand.Dan
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Kaleidescape has been around for quite a while and from what I have seen over the years the people who have invested in the system seem to like it a lot for ease of use. Turns out there is an upgrade path for a few dollars per movie for people who own a movie on 4K disc. In theory the 4K cinematic content on Kaleidescape may be of slightly higher quality than on 4K disc, but it seems only on a very big screen.
A bit of a shill here from an influencer, but it's useful background, and he acknowledges the prices for the hardware are way too high:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_9fI_hLkDk -
Well I have been installing this product over the last few decades and there is no question on the audio and video quality. I have done shootouts with the best UHD players, before that High end Blu Ray players including Oppo and the KScape Players always shine superior.
Streaming players have no chance in overall quality vs today's or even the older models.
I 'm really strongly considering getting one myself as they are not that expensive, your looking at $4000 for a Strato K player , they have a rent ability which I find kinda cool if you don't plan on rewatching movies.
Let's all be honest here, how many movies have you actually purchased and you watched more than once or twice? I know there are plenty of movies we all love and have watched countless times but generally speaking I was looking over my DVD-Blu Ray- UHD movie collection I would venture to say, I only watched most of them once. yeah I got a cool collection of movies over the generations of Disc but honestly in ways I feel I wasted a ton of cash of hundreds of movies as if KSCAPE had a rental store in the highest quality, most of my Library would be gone.Dan
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AVS Forum is saturated with used models for sale. Think twice Dan. Also, your hundreds of movies that you only watched once probably don't add up to the price of their player+rental costs.See profile for rigs. Nothing else here.
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I understand only the new Strato K model is capabale of playing back the new "4K Cinematic" format with the 4:4:4 color display capability. A couple months ago there was online chatter that they were selling so well they were on backorder. Not really the case now:
https://www.audioadvice.com/products/kaleidescape-strato-k-movie-player-server -
Looking at the hardware in one of those players it doesn't look like it should even cost $1000 a unit despite it having a 1TB SSD included in it. They'd sell a lot more if they cut the price by 90% and charged a monthly service fee for software development and support like everybody else does.

Maybe I'd even spring for one at that price. -
Looking at the hardware in one of those players it doesn't look like it should even cost $1000 a unit despite it having a 1TB SSD included in it. They'd sell a lot more if they cut the price by 90% and charged a monthly service fee for software development and support like everybody else does.

Maybe I'd even spring for one at that price.
I hear yeah, I think their products have always been of a premium level. But no one else is doing this on their level so like high end gear speakers and cables of all things, they might be priced right. If they are getting it good for them not you and me. But we might not be of that elite level of spending on things like this.
I would certainly love to see a $1000 price point hell even $2000 would be a great price for what it can do. Think about this, there is no UHD player or any player on the market that is better. So what should a company charge for such a premium source? look at some cable prices , I mean Audioquest sell $36-40K speaker wires and arguably easily can be out peroformed buy cables costing way less. And I mean way less. Same goes for power amps , I mean do you need a $100k amp mono block to get the best performance out of your speakers? Or are you showing off how rich you are and owning the most expensive amps made? same goes with high end $100k Speakers. I have installed set up and calibrated some of the higest end speakers from Wilson Audio, Dunlevy , Dynaudio , B&W etc and I will tell you I have also installed $5-16K speakers that can compete with all of them.
So the market is the market and if someone is willing to pay $4k for a player, then the value is there. They need another company to compete with and that would have driven better pricing , or maybe not.Dan
My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.


