Mogami Speaker cable
Geoff4rfc
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Does anyone have any experience with this cable? Specifically 12x2? I believe I've seen it mentioned in this forum some years back.
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this one? https://www.parts-express.com/Mogami-W3103-1-ft.-Superflexible-High-Definition-2-x-12-AWG-103-1023?quantity=1
At that price I would be using the Supra Rondo for less money or make a shotgun build with the Rondox4- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
Yes sir, that's the one. I see it on Even Horizon and Services for about 10 cents a foot cheaper. I ordered my Mogami AES cable from them for the DAC I have coming.Marantz AV10-Emotiva ERC3-Denafrips Venus-Panasonic UB9000-AudioQuest Power Quest 707-Emotiva DR3, DR2, XPA2, XPA6-Focal Kanta No2, Sopra Center-PolkAudio RTiA9, RTiA3, LSiM 702F/X-Epik Empire-11.2
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Mogami makes good stuff, I have their XLR cables.
Dollar for dollar the Supra Rondo is just great wire. Very high strand count, flexible, sounds great.
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/speaker-wire/supra-rondo-2x2.5mm-speaker-wire-per-foot-13-awg/- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
It seems like every few years, every forum has their favorite DIY speaker cable of the month/year. The OFC version of Canare StarQuad (4S11G) also makes a great speaker cable and is cheaper. You can essentially build an 11AWG shotgun in one cable run. There is also a coax version of Mogami (W3802) that some people really love although I'm not really a fan of coax for speaker.
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I dunno as you start to reach 10 a ft there's so many options.
Dh labs t14 is stellar
Duelund dca16 is a favorite of mine
It's not all about the gauge. The duelund dca line in cloth is freaking amazing wiring. My entire rig from ethernet to speaker is duelund dca- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
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Duelund dca16 is a favorite of mine
It's not all about the gauge. The duelund dca line in cloth is freaking amazing wiring. My entire rig from ethernet to speaker is duelund dca
FWIW: Duelund wire of various kinds is (are?) a big fave of the tubes 'n' horns crowd that I run with.
There's a little bit here and there in my hifi, but I haven't made the plunge (yet).
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The new 10 gauge stuff is so good, no idea why duelund doesn't show off the cross section of it but it's vastly superior winding to the 12 gauge stuff. Very very impressed- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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In the Professional world, Mogami is considered one of the very best cable companies. Another one that is highly rated would be Daddario which is what I use along with Mogami. I love their build your own solder less cables, I use it thoughout my entire Guitar rig.
Dan
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https://www.hificollective.co.uk/wire/duelund-dca10ga-tinned-multistrand-copper-wire-cotton-oil-insulated.htmlThe new 10 gauge stuff is so good, no idea why duelund doesn't show off the cross section of it but it's vastly superior winding to the 12 gauge stuff. Very very impressed
This what you're looking for Trey? -
Hificollective.co.uk to their rescue, that's it. Duelunds marketing arm doesn't do much but they post on Facebook pretty regularly
Great wire, not cheap but excellent- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
The Dueland cable is not exactly known for being neutral. I'd advise anyone to evaluate their system and figure out if they want or need more vintage sound and harmonics before jumping on that bandwagon.
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What's the reason for tinning a copper cable with such a poor conducting solder?
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skipshot12 wrote: »What's the reason for tinning a copper cable with such a poor conducting solder?
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It supposedly reduces the skin effect as well.
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Mogami makes good wire. I use it on many of my custom made interconnects and some speaker wire.
Currently not in use:
Aaron
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Hell I might pick up some Mogami 12-2 Speaker wire and build it myself. I've been wanting to try out these Rhodium Banana plugs anyway by Viborg
https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/E11FA842-8354-4140-BF3C-D1ABB8781478?ingress=2&lp_context_asin=B09HGPBS6B&lp_context_query=rhodium banana plugs&visitId=dfa3d420-1404-481d-a95b-8c203a3cb0a5&store_ref=bl_ast_dp_brandLogo_sto&ref_=ast_blnDan
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For years people have talked about how poor the tinned copper wire Polk used in their vintage speakers was because it is tinned, but now that Duelund has put their name on basically the same stuff it's great!?!
I've got a bridge to sell ya.Political Correctness'.........defined
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The vintage Polk wiring is a very low strand count wire versus duelund and the supra rondo.
I'm a big fan of tinned copper but not a big fan of the stuff Polk used as far as quality goes.
It definitely has held up compared to straight copper wire I have seen in older speakers.- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
Uh-huhPolitical Correctness'.........defined
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No reason to tin the combination of fine angel hair and solid copper wires in these cables as oxygen has no chance of reaching the wires. Just saying...
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I can't stop thinking about the film "Billy Jack".
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No reason to tin the combination of fine angel hair and solid copper wires in these cables as oxygen has no chance of reaching the wires. Just saying...
Big money cables there 😁- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
Hell I might pick up some Mogami 12-2 Speaker wire and build it myself. I've been wanting to try out these Rhodium Banana plugs anyway by Viborg
https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/E11FA842-8354-4140-BF3C-D1ABB8781478?ingress=2&lp_context_asin=B09HGPBS6B&lp_context_query=rhodium banana plugs&visitId=dfa3d420-1404-481d-a95b-8c203a3cb0a5&store_ref=bl_ast_dp_brandLogo_sto&ref_=ast_bln
I've been using Viborg bananas for a while now. Silver plated copper on the mains and pure copper on the rest. I'll use the pure copper for the Mogami cables for a new 3.0 set up.Marantz AV10-Emotiva ERC3-Denafrips Venus-Panasonic UB9000-AudioQuest Power Quest 707-Emotiva DR3, DR2, XPA2, XPA6-Focal Kanta No2, Sopra Center-PolkAudio RTiA9, RTiA3, LSiM 702F/X-Epik Empire-11.2 -
viborg makes very nice connectors!- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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Hell I might pick up some Mogami 12-2 Speaker wire and build it myself. I've been wanting to try out these Rhodium Banana plugs anyway by Viborg
https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/E11FA842-8354-4140-BF3C-D1ABB8781478?ingress=2&lp_context_asin=B09HGPBS6B&lp_context_query=rhodium banana plugs&visitId=dfa3d420-1404-481d-a95b-8c203a3cb0a5&store_ref=bl_ast_dp_brandLogo_sto&ref_=ast_bln
@mantis I've seen those however I stick with the pure copper version of this plug throughout my system. I do however use the sliver plated bananas for the 2ch mains.Marantz AV10-Emotiva ERC3-Denafrips Venus-Panasonic UB9000-AudioQuest Power Quest 707-Emotiva DR3, DR2, XPA2, XPA6-Focal Kanta No2, Sopra Center-PolkAudio RTiA9, RTiA3, LSiM 702F/X-Epik Empire-11.2 -
I like my Canare 4S11, works greatWhen I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
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I dunno as you start to reach 10 a ft there's so many options.
Dh labs t14 is stellar
Duelund dca16 is a favorite of mine
It's not all about the gauge. The duelund dca line in cloth is freaking amazing wiring. My entire rig from ethernet to speaker is duelund dca
The Duelund is a modern copy of the old Western Electric wire. -
I like my Canare 4S11, works great
I use that as well for a few speakers in the main. I'm trying the Mogami for the BDRM set up.Marantz AV10-Emotiva ERC3-Denafrips Venus-Panasonic UB9000-AudioQuest Power Quest 707-Emotiva DR3, DR2, XPA2, XPA6-Focal Kanta No2, Sopra Center-PolkAudio RTiA9, RTiA3, LSiM 702F/X-Epik Empire-11.2 -
I read a very long article written by the founder of Mogami. Among other things he stated the skin effect is very real. So much for tinned copper wire, eh.
Then there was this gem...Therefore, it became understood that our brain [perceives] sound by a different mechanism from electrical measurement.
Bravo!!!Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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