R200 50th AE Edition.....

heiney9
heiney9 Posts: 25,419
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Are they that much better than standard R200's?

Eyeing a pair, but I've never heard the 50th AE's

H9
"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,481
    edited December 18
    https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/199060/polk-anniversary-r200-speakers/p1

    https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/197372/50-year-anniversary-r200-signed-by-matt-polk/p1

    Opinions vary. Some say not worth it, some say they are better but question the value.
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,640
    I was quite interested when they were on deep discount but didn't like the cherry finish and saw some reactions indicated maybe not enough difference in sound quality. I already had a pair of regular R200s anyway.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,998
    Do you have the standard edition? If so, why not just hot rod them out? Your skills would out do the 50th AE’s anyway.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 29,399
    the wood veneer is very nice.

    I ultimately didnt like them. I much preferred my Def Tech PM500 monitors in that application (near field on a desk)
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,324
    From what I saw, sound quality wise they are exactly the same. But they are finished nicer. So you get a higher quality finish over the standard R200 models. I think that alone is worth any extra money.
    Dan
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,700
    R200 on the left, R200AE on the right.
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    It's impossible for them to sound the same.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,419
    Yes, I have the standard R200's

    There is a pair of slightly cosmetically challenged AE's, for a good price.

    Thanks for the side by side Jesse, I hadn't seen that photo before. Now I see the difference. I'm sure I could match or exceed the parts in the AE, pretty sure it will cost more.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,419
    edited December 19
    This the worst of the damage. Damaged in shipping. The seller has the original box.

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    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 26,961
    A little lipstick and that will buff right out!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,419
    My only concern is the seller won't accept returns. Could there be other internal damage? Probably not as this is the worst of it. A couple other places have tiny nicks and a few light scratches that don't show up in photos.

    Seller says they sound fantastic.

    I figure some wood filler and some Cherry touch up. Doesn't have to be perfect.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,640
    Refinishing them with some black paint could be an option. It's for the wood.

    That crossover in the AE is impressive for a factory speaker! Marketing of that aspect could have been better.
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  • Viking64
    Viking64 Posts: 7,520
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    A little lipstick and that will buff right out!

    Ivan, did she believe you when you told her that? :#
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,934
    edited December 19
    Emlyn wrote: »
    Refinishing them with some black paint could be an option. It's for the wood.

    That crossover in the AE is impressive for a factory speaker! Marketing of that aspect could have been better.

    I see what you did there. :blush:

    I must say the big selling point for the Expensive Edition R200, for me, was the cherry veneer. I am a sucka for cherry wood (light or dark). :) I would love to have gotten a pair, but not for the MSRP.

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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,640
    Safe & Sound still has the R200 AE on their website or through Amazon new in box for $849 a pair. Regular price where they are available seems to be around $1200 still.

    The lowest price I recall seeing them when were on discount was around $700 or a bit more than the regular version at the time.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,934
    edited December 19
    The 'problem' is that a number of (early-ish) R200 customers :blush: were able to purchase a pair of the Contact Paper, I mean, vinyl veneered Original Edition B) from Polk for just about $400. At that price, the R200 is a pretty darned fine little loudspeaker as is -- Contact Paper finish and all. ;)

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    As it happens, we listened last night, via the R200s (and a venerable old Yamaha AVR, to a pretty good quality ecording of a recent holiday concert that we happen to have actually attended live. They sounded great relative to the original performance. :)

    https://youtu.be/rQ_QhlqSvh4?si=LUbk54e-ef7kAKPV
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  • bcwsrt
    bcwsrt Posts: 2,386
    That would be the ultimate comparison to actually hear it live and then played back through your rig!

    Brian

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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,481
    edited December 19
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    The 'problem' is that a number of (early-ish) R200 customers :blush: were able to purchase a pair of the Contact Paper, I mean, vinyl veneered Original Edition B) from Polk for just about $400. At that price, the R200 is a pretty darned fine little loudspeaker as is -- Contact Paper finish and all. ;)

    Some of us paid even less using a coupon...
    Agreed, it a a darned fine little loudspeaker, especially considering the initial investment. All things considered, I would probably sell off everything else I have, and keep my R200 (plus a sub) if I were forced to only have one system in a small/mid sized room. I only notice their deficiencies when I slide over to the other side of the room and listen to my 2-ch system, which is hardly a fair comparison given the original speaker pricing difference and the difference in quality of gear running each system.
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  • xschop
    xschop Posts: 5,092
    F1nut wrote: »
    R200 on the left, R200AE on the right.
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    It's impossible for them to sound the same.

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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,954
    VR3 would not use sand resistors.

    Tom
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  • Viking64
    Viking64 Posts: 7,520
    treitz3 wrote: »
    VR3 would not use sand resistors.

    Tom

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  • mikejedi0619
    mikejedi0619 Posts: 122
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    My .02 opinion if it were me I would feel
    Much more comfortable purchasing these new through Amazon or S and S. Peace of mind no cosmetic or possible internal damage and u get the warranty. :)

    Just something to think about. But no doubt these are sweet speakers. !

    I know they aren’t the same exactly but I do love my L200s. If I couldn’t get L200s in these would be a strong 2nd !!!

    I say go for a new pair if you can ;)
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,934
    "S and S"?
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  • Viking64
    Viking64 Posts: 7,520
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    "S and S"?

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,419
    treitz3 wrote: »
    VR3 would not use sand resistors.

    Tom

    I was going to mention how odd it was those were there.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,419
    mikejedi0619 wrote: »
    In
    My .02 opinion if it were me I would feel
    Much more comfortable purchasing these new through Amazon or S and S. Peace of mind no cosmetic or possible internal damage and u get the warranty. :)

    Just something to think about. But no doubt these are sweet speakers. !

    I know they aren’t the same exactly but I do love my L200s. If I couldn’t get L200s in these would be a strong 2nd !!!

    I say go for a new pair if you can ;)

    That's partly the reason I'm holding off. These have been discontinued for awhile and I've only seen a couple sources for "new".

    I'll pass at new prices as I am totally fine with upgrading my own R200's.

    These cosmetically challenged pair are $575. A pretty significant savings. And they ship in the original box.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,998
    I would like a pair of R200’s and L200’s in my collection, but I have enough stuff sitting around I only pull out and use once in awhile to play with..
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,419
    If I pull the trigger on the AE's, my R200's will be FS.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • mikejedi0619
    mikejedi0619 Posts: 122
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    "S and S"?

    Safe and Sound :)

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