Spotify Lossless for premium subscribers

https://pitchfork.com/news/spotify-adds-lossless-audio-for-premium-users/

It's here Spotify is finaly in the game. Im a satisfied Tidal subscriber, however my wife liked Spotify. Do any of you have a Spotify premium account and if so what are your thoughts on the quality of thier high rez offerings?
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  • jdjohn
    jdjohn Posts: 3,315
    The rollout hasn't hit me yet.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,686
    Well this might make me switch back if its similar as finding gear that supports tidal connect is much harder than spotify connect, and spotify's family plan and kids accounts have much better parental control.

    I'm ok paying a bit more for it if it comes to that.

    I could start re-using my raspberry pi's with Volumio which supports both but charges 7.99 a month for Tidal, v Spotify Connect which is free.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,907
    Spotify has actually entered the 21st Century?!!
    Remarkable. :#
  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,156
    Not sure if everything in Spotifys Library will be Lossless, or just certain ones the article does not really get into much detail on that.
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    2 Channel
    Adcom 555II Vincent SA-T1 Marantz SA 15S2 Denon DR-M11 Clearaudio Bluemotion SDA 2.3tl's (Z) edition MIT Terminator II Speaker Cables & IC's Adcom 545II Adcom Gtp-450 Marantz CD5004 Technics M245X SDA 2B's, SDA CRS+

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    JD LABS C5 Headphone Amplifier, Sennheiser HD 598, Polk Audio Buckle, Polk Audio Hinge, Velodyne vPulse, Bose IE2, Sennheiser CX 200 Street II, Sennheiser MX 365

    Shower & Off the beaten path Rigs
    Polk Audio Boom Swimmer, Polk Audio Urchin B)
  • audioluvr
    audioluvr Posts: 5,865
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Spotify has actually entered the 21st Century?!!
    Remarkable. :#

    Especially since it's already 25% over.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,686
    Gonna let things settle for a bit and start keeping track of how many of my tracks are still above Spotifys max bitrate to see how much it might matter….

    Not sure how much difference comes through my systems with the higher bitrates v lower.

    Probably not much and will be curious how fast they get higher quality versions from the record companies that already have them in that format.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,310
    I have Premium and it just says high Quality Audio. Doesn't say lossless.
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  • I’ve been using Spotify Premium for a while now, and the new lossless/high-res option is definitely a nice addition. It’s not quite Tidal Masters level yet, but the 24-bit FLAC streaming is noticeably cleaner than the old 320 kbps AAC.

    Honestly, if you’re mainly listening on good headphones or a proper stereo setup, you can hear the difference. That said, Tidal still has the edge for true audiophiles, but Spotify’s convenience, playlists, and cross-device support make it a strong competitor.
  • jdjohn
    jdjohn Posts: 3,315
    Today I played my Spotify Premium, and my DAC indicates I'm getting 24 bit/44kHz, so it looks like I'm live now. I played a few 30-second sample tracks via Qobuz as well, and they came through at their disclosed rates, so I don't think my DAC is lying to me :)

    In Spotify, I played some of my more obscure library items/artists, and everything was showing 24/44, so I'm not seeing any holes in the library so far.

    Next, I'll compare some downloaded hi-res files I have to the new Spotify versions.
    "This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
    "Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
    Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon
  • audioluvr
    audioluvr Posts: 5,865
    I get 96kHz with Tidal. Don't know what that means but it sounds good.
    Gustard X26 Pro DAC
    Belles 21A Pre modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
    B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
    Polk SDA 1C's modded / 1000Va Dreadnaught
    Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
    Harman Kardon T65C w/Grado Gold. (Don't laugh. It sounds great!)


    There is about a 5% genetic difference between apes and men …but that difference is the difference between throwing your own poo when you are annoyed …and Einstein, Shakespeare and Miss January. by Dr. Sardonicus
  • jdjohn
    jdjohn Posts: 3,315
    audioluvr wrote: »
    I get 96kHz with Tidal. Don't know what that means but it sounds good.
    You do you :)
    "This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
    "Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
    Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon
  • HzTweaker
    HzTweaker Posts: 927
    You can't hear the difference between sample rates (lmao). >:)
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  • K_M
    K_M Posts: 1,632
    gudnoyez wrote: »
    Not sure if everything in Spotifys Library will be Lossless, or just certain ones the article does not really get into much detail on that.

    Yes, quite hard to tell by that article. Lacking a lot of details for sure.
    I would imagine a price increase also.
    Think I will stick with the normal "Premium" unless this new lossless is the same price. Doubtful.
  • jdjohn
    jdjohn Posts: 3,315
    Listening tonight through my Innuous Zen III via Spotify connect of some obscure artists, I continue to be impressed. Every track is coming through at 24 bits, according to the indicators on my Benchmark DAC3.
    "This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
    "Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
    Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon
  • HzTweaker
    HzTweaker Posts: 927
    edited November 13
    skipshot12 wrote: »
    ^ Serious?

    No. :D
    Edit:
    Here's a dumpster fire I started on the topic lol.
    https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/199279/lets-talk-sample-rates#latest
    jdjohn wrote: »
    Listening tonight through my Innuous Zen III via Spotify connect of some obscure artists, I continue to be impressed. Every track is coming through at 24 bits, according to the indicators on my Benchmark DAC3.

    Nice!
    I've always preferred gear that showed more information on what's going on inside the "box".
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  • skipshot12
    skipshot12 Posts: 1,772
    I find the higher you go in sample rates the more difficult it is to tell the difference.

    I find it easy to hear the difference between a 380kbps recording and a 44.1khz or a 320kbps compared to a 24/96 recording.

    To me it gets a little harder to ID the 44.1kHz recording and one at 24/96.