Veri Fi SnubWay......don't listen to music, experience it!
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Looks like the discount price is no longer available.Yep, my name really is Bob.
Parasound HCA1500A(indoor sound) and HCA1000(outdoor sound), Dynaco PAS4, Denon DP1200 w/Shure V15 Type V and Jico SAS stylus, Marantz UD7007, Polk L600, Rythmik L12 sub. -
Yeah, Veri-Fi only had 10 of each available at that price. Sounds like they cleared out fast.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Master Class, one hour in, has muddied things up a bit....<snip>
Now, I have to admit, this has perked up my curiosity a bit. When I installed my MC, I knew within about an hour and a half that it was a definite winner. It left no doubt in my mind at that point. Now, I know all systems differ a tad bit and noise is a nasty gremlin but I am curious....where do you have it plugged in?
Well, a handful of questions, actually.
1 - Where do you have the MC plugged in?
2 - Where do you have the Snubway plugged in?
3 - Is your entire system on the same (verified) circuit?
4 - How many available outlets did you have to begin with? (on the wall or in a power strip)
5 - Is the current location of the MC at or near a transformer or PS unit within a certain component?
6 - When you stated that it had muddied things up a bit, what source were you using and was that source directly tied to the same circuit/plug that the MC was plugged into?
Tom
~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
I'm starting a new thread on the Snub Way. Been in touch with Mark and he is making available a unit for a Polkie Road Test.Yep, my name really is Bob.
Parasound HCA1500A(indoor sound) and HCA1000(outdoor sound), Dynaco PAS4, Denon DP1200 w/Shure V15 Type V and Jico SAS stylus, Marantz UD7007, Polk L600, Rythmik L12 sub. -
Dude! Fantastic man. That is so awesome.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Tom, I think all the questions are a bit premature. I only listened for maybe two hours last night and that was my initial, off-the-cuff one-sentence reaction to it. I feel like the SnubWay didn’t surprise me until the second day I listened with it installed.
Let me have a couple more days to listen more, move it around if I’m still not happy and even to pull it back out again so I can elaborate more on what I’m hearing.
As I said, I don’t expect there to be any issues in the end, but if there are (and after reporting back and answering your questions and following your, and others’, recommendations to resolve them), I’d be happy enough just with the SnubWay.
Brian
One-owner Polk Audio RTA 15TL speakers refreshed w/ Sonicap, Vishay/Mills and Cardas components by "pitdogg2," "xschop" billet tweeter plates and BH5 | Stereo REL Acoustics T/5x subwoofers w/ Bassline Blue cables | Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum III integrated tube amp | Technics SL-1210G turntable w/ Ortofon 2M Black LVB 250 MM cart | Sony CDP-508ESD CD player (as a transport) | LampizatOr Baltic 4 tube DAC | Nordost & DH Labs cables/interconnects | APC H15 Power Conditioner | GIK Acoustics room treatments | Degritter RCM -
Okay and duly noted. Have fun listening and playing around with them. The Snubway definitely took 2 days but the MC definitely did not....well, in my system at least. Thanks man.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Thanks for taking that the right way. I thought it might’ve come across a little harsh after I posted it. I know you are just trying to help and I appreciate it. 👍
Stay tuned …
Brian
One-owner Polk Audio RTA 15TL speakers refreshed w/ Sonicap, Vishay/Mills and Cardas components by "pitdogg2," "xschop" billet tweeter plates and BH5 | Stereo REL Acoustics T/5x subwoofers w/ Bassline Blue cables | Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum III integrated tube amp | Technics SL-1210G turntable w/ Ortofon 2M Black LVB 250 MM cart | Sony CDP-508ESD CD player (as a transport) | LampizatOr Baltic 4 tube DAC | Nordost & DH Labs cables/interconnects | APC H15 Power Conditioner | GIK Acoustics room treatments | Degritter RCM -
I'd be interested to know whether there's any difference without the others and only the SnubWay, if you can risk a disruption in The Force.
Completely understandable if you prefer not. The obvious reason being that most of us don't have any other additive noise removal devices.
Please accept my apologies for the delay. So, I got curious and tried this tonight. That didn't last that long. I listened to about 3 or 4 songs, and while the difference was slight, it was noticeable. Sorry for the delay, but as mentioned before? Don't fix what ain't broke.
Apparently, these devices are a cumulative effect. Even though (in this case) the effect is minimal. The devices removed were one i-Fi A/C conditioner and 3 PS Audio Noise harvesters upstream of the audio room's circuit.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Well, I may be onto something. The Master Class absolutely did not like the original spot I had it in. I'm currently on my third location after trying the same APC H15 PC location that I put the SnubWay in, also with no success. This location is not ideal because I had something else plugged in there already, but I can make it work if the results are there.
I wish I could get the Master Class (and the SnubWay, for that matter) in a location before the amp and PC, but it's just not possible without an investment in longer power cables ($$$), as those two components are in the first outlet near the fusebox and I'd have to relocate them downstream. I'm guessing that is probably why my results are somewhat less than great, so far, with the Master Class. I feel like I got 80-90% of what Tom describes in his posts in this thread with just the SnubWay, so if my results are any indication, the SnubWay is the right one to do the "road test" with.
I've got one or two other things I want to try before posting any conclusions, but it's been enjoyable chilling with some tunes while I evaluate the Master Class's impact.
Brian
One-owner Polk Audio RTA 15TL speakers refreshed w/ Sonicap, Vishay/Mills and Cardas components by "pitdogg2," "xschop" billet tweeter plates and BH5 | Stereo REL Acoustics T/5x subwoofers w/ Bassline Blue cables | Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum III integrated tube amp | Technics SL-1210G turntable w/ Ortofon 2M Black LVB 250 MM cart | Sony CDP-508ESD CD player (as a transport) | LampizatOr Baltic 4 tube DAC | Nordost & DH Labs cables/interconnects | APC H15 Power Conditioner | GIK Acoustics room treatments | Degritter RCM -
One idea presented elsewhere would be to go to HD and get a 20amp 3 way splitter. It isn't ideal but it would allow you to place the original equipment into the same outlet, along with both the Snubway and MC. If it doesn't work out, you could always return it. A Ridgid 3 plug, heavy duty 2' extension cord only costs $23, and might also allow to to do more experimenting to see what works best for you. Just food for thought.
Alternatively, if your outlets are in series, you could possibly place them in the outlet before your system.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
One other thing I would like to mention is this. The impact from each unit (at least on my rig) were equal.....maybe with a slight nod to the MC (but that may have been because of the cumulative effect, I never took out the Snubway just to test the MC). With both of them? I am STILL in awe at what I am hearing. Not, "pretty much" everytime I listen. It's literally everytime I listen. Whether the rig is cold, or if it has been running non-stop for days on end. FWIW.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Good suggestions, Tom. Thanks. I don't really want to add any more cords than I already have, though. I already feel like my cable management practices need help as it is! 🫤
I am still going to try the splitter idea in case it’s just super-picky about location, but at the moment with all the places I’ve been able to try it so far, I'm coming to the conclusion that the Master Class just doesn't add what the SnubWay did in my system, for whatever reason. In fact, it was a negative impact in one location. Of course, given the other positions I tried, it's totally possible that either my system doesn't reveal those differences (I've seen the photos of your rig!), or ... my 58 year-old hearing just doesn't pick them up anymore.
I added new Nordost Heimdall 2 interconnects to my DAC about a month ago. The instrument separation and clarity to voices those provided within about two days was incredible. A few weeks later the SnubWay arrived. Complemented and added to the interconnect change in every way, plus expanded the soundstage big time and provided depth. Heard things in familiar recordings I'd never heard before.
I'm going to keep working on the Master Class just because there are so many good reports on it everywhere. And, sooner or later, I'm going to have a different listening room situation where I should be able to put it in a more recommended position ahead of the components and see what happens.
I’ll report back again once I get the splitter and hopefully that sheds light on what could be. Might even try it in the family room where the TV is, based on what @pearsall001 mentioned about his in the "SnubWay road test" thread.
Meanwhile, I'll keep enjoying the SnubWay!
Brian
One-owner Polk Audio RTA 15TL speakers refreshed w/ Sonicap, Vishay/Mills and Cardas components by "pitdogg2," "xschop" billet tweeter plates and BH5 | Stereo REL Acoustics T/5x subwoofers w/ Bassline Blue cables | Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum III integrated tube amp | Technics SL-1210G turntable w/ Ortofon 2M Black LVB 250 MM cart | Sony CDP-508ESD CD player (as a transport) | LampizatOr Baltic 4 tube DAC | Nordost & DH Labs cables/interconnects | APC H15 Power Conditioner | GIK Acoustics room treatments | Degritter RCM -
That sounds like an incredible experience! Whatever device or tweak you’ve added to your system clearly made a profound impact. Care to share what it is? Given your reaction, I’m guessing it’s something that significantly reduces noise, enhances detail retrieval, or improves the overall musicality of your setup.
Is it a power conditioner, a DAC upgrade, a reclocker, or some kind of isolation tweak? I’m curious because I’ve seen a few game-changing products in this price range that can elevate an audio system far beyond expectations. -
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Brian
One-owner Polk Audio RTA 15TL speakers refreshed w/ Sonicap, Vishay/Mills and Cardas components by "pitdogg2," "xschop" billet tweeter plates and BH5 | Stereo REL Acoustics T/5x subwoofers w/ Bassline Blue cables | Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum III integrated tube amp | Technics SL-1210G turntable w/ Ortofon 2M Black LVB 250 MM cart | Sony CDP-508ESD CD player (as a transport) | LampizatOr Baltic 4 tube DAC | Nordost & DH Labs cables/interconnects | APC H15 Power Conditioner | GIK Acoustics room treatments | Degritter RCM -
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I have had the Snubway and Main Stream plugged in my system for about 8 days now - Initially, I was not blown away by what I was hearing. I did notice some improvement in clarity and reduction in noise floor, but it kind of left me feeling underwhelmed.
Fast forward to three days later and when I sat down to listen I was like "Wow". Something had changed for the better - by a lot. I was now hearing much more clarity and the reduced noise floor allowed me to hear more low level detail in recordings. I noticed for the first time room ambience in some jazz recordings that I had not picked up on before and the music overall seemed to reach out and pull me in more than it had previously.
I tried various positions for the devices and for now have settled on the Snubway being in the duplex outlet that my power conditioner is plugged into and having the Main Stream plugged into the first outlet on my power conditioner. This configuration was recommended by Vera-fi and seemed to work best for me. When I removed either one of the devices the result was less than when using both.
Mark from Vera-Fi was very helpful with any questions I had. Highly recommended to try. Thanks Tom for recommending these devices!
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My experience pretty much mirrors that of @Polkitup2 . It took a few days to realize the full effect. I was a bit hesitant to plug my integrated amp into anything other than the wall. So I tried it into the power conditioner for a few days before the Snubway and Main Stream arrived and heard no difference. This allowed me to use them as Mark recommended. After about two weeks I swapped them. I just swapped them back and am convinced that this is the best configuration so far. I suppose I could try more combinations, but at this point I’m not sure I’ll bother. I recommend that if you’re on the fence, take advantage of the trial being offered.
