Veri Fi SnubWay......don't listen to music, experience it!

Clipdat

@treitz3 Ah, ok, so jokes aren't allowed in this thread? Understood.

I'd give this product a try, but I told myself no more components from convicted felons in my system. Shrug.

treitz3

Your "jokes" are about as funny as a dirty joke being that a horse fell in the mud. What a damned kneeslapper. I thought I was gracious to you in my response, but alas, you being a gentleman about it is apparently too much to ask. All you did with your last post, is once again, add useless "noise" to the thread. *shakes head*

If you don't want this product, that's all fine and dandy. No one here gives a flying (fill in the blank) But please let the folks who are offering up real information be allowed to read up without said additional useless noise. It adds nothing to the discussion.

Tom

F1nut

I'd say not giving money to a convicted felon is adding to the discussion.

treitz3

Oh, FF's sake. Jesus himself, along with our current leader were both convicted felons.

More noise. I respectfully ask that while this is an apparent fact, that it not be spoken about moving forward, especially ad nauseum. Please go F up someone else's thread or start a new one, specifically about this. The folks who are reading this shouldn't have to sift through all the added noise.

Tom

muncybob

I agree with Tom here. The backstory of the person in question was plainly stated earlier and that should be enough to develop each person's outlook. Nobody is trying to sway anybody's opinion about that. While I can't condone what happened with that person, I also thought why not try out the product. So I took all the risk by contacting him regarding the price and was surprised when he agreed to the"road test"...a few days later w/o any $$ exchanging hands I received 2 of the devices...one to share with anybody interested at no risk at all.

I'm sure most, if not all, in the test has a rig that is much higher up the ladder than mine so I really wanted to see if this device made a difference in their equipment. I would have been surprised if it didn't in mine based on Tom's (and others) experience.

I don't understand why anybody that has no intention at all in a product would muddy the waters for those that are interested. With that said, can we just have actual experiences with the SW here and let the bickering out of it?

F1nut

The folks who are reading this shouldn't have to sift through all the added noise.

Maybe plug one of those devices into the thread.

heiney9

Think of the noise we are talking about in here as "unwanted artifacts" from any piece of passive or active device or cable in your rig. If you eliminate just one unwanted artifact it may not be audible, but it's definitely a cumulative effect of everything you do to your rig.

The old adage definitely holds true "Everything Matters". This doesn't happen overnight. In my journey it's taken a long time. Meticulously paying close attention to eliminating "unwanted artifacts".

This includes choice of gear. The XA25 is a superb example of a design that gives you about as naked a signal as you can get. New techniques, new Mosfets, and ridding the amp of degeneration (a form of negative feedback)

Read my review here.
https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/199380/finally-pulled-the-trigger#latest

H9

jdjohn

Aren't we due for another SnubWay review at this point?

muncybob

smglbrth had it but life got in the way and I don't think he had enough time to evaluate it. He may be getting it after the last person reviews it down the road for a 2nd shot.

In the meantime daddyjt should be receiving it today and hopefully we'll hear from him later next week.

muncybob

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treitz3

Master Class A/C line conditioner -

Since I never really did a review of this thing, I thought I'd share a story with you about this device. Please be forewarned, this is a long post. Informative, but still long.

So, about 3 weeks ago, I was out in the living room watching some TV, while the rig was warming up to play some late night listening tunes. Out of nowhere was a lightning strike that, based upon the sheer amount of light beaming through the LR blinds, had to have been awfully close. At the same exact time, one of the loudest cracks of thunder I have ever heard was simultanious with the strike.

It looked to have been close and I thought I would have walked outside to see a tree exploded or part of my house on fire. All of these thoughts happened within a split second, but when the light from the strike subsided, I noticed that the power was out in the house.

Within seconds, my son had ran out from the room thinking the same thing I did. He said it scared the living crap out of him and we both walked out onto the front porch to survey the damage. Nothing. No damage, no tree down, no fire, no scorched exterior outlets, nothing.

When the excitement subsided, we walked back inside and told him that the power should be back on soon. He stated that the power was on in his room. What? So, I looked in the kitchen and the fridge light was on. Hmm, so I guess it popped a breaker. No worries.

So I walk back to the panel and sure as chit, the front of the house outlet circuit was in the off position. No worries, so I turned it back on. It immediately popped off again. Crap. That meant something on that circuit had a short in it. It was late and the rig is on that circuit, so I called it a day and just went to bed. I figured that I would just deal with it in the AM (it was a Friday, so I was off the next day).

So, first thing in the AM, I unplug everything on that circuit and flip the breaker to the on position. No short, so the circuit and all outlets were fine. So, now all I had to do was plug everything in, one by one and when it tripped the breaker again, I would know what it was that had a short. I plugged everything in within the LR. Then I moved to the office and plugged everything in. No issues, which was great but at the end of that circuit is where my rig resides. That ain't good. At all.

So, I waited the rest of the day, not wanting to know the inevitable. It was something in the stereo room. Reluctantly, around 7 that night, I built up the courage to finally go back and see what was what. Hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst.

One by one, I plugged everything in for the main components of the rig. Turned everything on and no tripped breaker. Thank the man above none of the most expensive to replace components were damaged. So, I plugged in and turned on the AQ Niagra power strip that supports everything on the streamer and network devices in the room. Still no issues. So, I went back out to the LR and office and started plugging in all of my noise reducing devices, then back to the stereo room to start plugging them in there.

I plugged in all of the Puron's and as I plugged in the Master Class A/C line conditioner, the circuit was tripped. AH-HA! That was the component that fried (or at least one of them). I removed it from the outlet, turned the circuit back on and plugged the rest of the stuff in. No further issues and the rig was running fine (albeit, not sounding quite as good without the MC A/C line conditioner).

Still, very thankful that it was just that, and not something else that would have put me without music for a while. I had been there before from another lightning strike at a different house...and it wasn't fun. At all.

So, anyway....I got to wondering why it was just that unit that got fried. It was located on the first outlet on the in series outlets that fed the system. The only other thing that was plugged into that outlet was one of my Rythmik subs, which works perfectly fine. Curiosity got the best of me, so I called Mark up and to my surprise, he answered my call right off the bat (on a weekend morning to boot).

I told him what had happened the night before and flat out asked him if it had sacrificed itself to save the rest of the system. He stated that there is a capacitor in the design that will do just that. So, this device not only is a great addition to the rig, it also saved it from untold damage. Very enlightening (no pun intended).

The man was very accommodating. He will accept the return of the blown unit, and send me another one. He even sent me a return label for the damaged unit. I flat out told him that I would be happy to pay for another one, but he refused that offer more than once. That he was gonna make it right.

It wasn't long afterwards that I ordered another one anyway, because I didn't ever want to go without one of these, ever again, plus I was kind of curious to see if more than one would improve upon anything. That remains to be seen, but anyway, these are my observations when the first one got delivered this past Wednesday afternoon.

Continued...

treitz3

Immediately after install -
Noticeably lower noise floor.
Increased visceral impact of registers, especially in the lower regions.
More separation and quiet in between the images.
Greater sense of overall realism/palpability.
Definitely an increased depth, and by a large margin. More layers of sound to the reproductive effort and very 3-D in all directions, which make the speakers and room on my system not part of the equation.
Crystal clear sound with no leading edge and greater follow through with a natural rolloff.
More palpable timbre to voices and instruments.
Still some slight unwanted artifacts on certain frequencies on occasion. It's minor but noticeable to these ears. NOTE - these unwanted artifacts were gone after about 2 hours of being installed. It just dawned on me that I haven't heard it for a couple of songs now. NOTE 2 - After 6 more hours of continuous listening, these artifacts never returned.
When I mentioned depth before, it is getting better. Listening to James Taylor's, "Light 'em up", the background singers range from 9 to 15 feet back from James, with a very clear blackness between the layers of singers.
4 hours in, and this is just musical bliss. It's just so clear and fluid...like the music is dancing in front of you, around you, having an effortless and playful time doing so.

I have been having a sheer blast listening to music as of late, and this is also in part to another addition I have made to the rig. That post/shootout is coming to a post near you. All I can say is that when I first put this device in? I knew within an hour and a half after install that I liked it well enough to post about it on this thread. I don't think I have ever offered an endorsement on any device for my rigs over the years within an hour and a half. It was that profound to these ears, and I thought I would actually share my observations the second time I installed the Master Class A/C line conditioner with all of you.

Simply put, the Snubway and MC combo should be standard equipment for any rig. The enjoyment they bring to the reproductive effort table is probably the best value one would ever find in this hobby, even at quadruple retail.

I am no longer just listening to the music, I am truly experiencing it.

Tom

muncybob

Interesting read Tom. We have had several of those close lighting strikes in the last few years and upon suggestion from this site I had a whole house surge protection system installed. Any surge will hit it before the breaker panel. It has 3 replaceable breakers in it that will take the surge, fortunately have never had any issues (knocks on wood). Mark seems to be a good person these days.

Milito

Glad to know it worked to save your system Tom.
I've had a whole house surge protection system on my last 2 houses. It's money well spent.

muncybob

...and, in my case it wasn't nearly as expensive as I thought it would be. We have a VERY intense thunderstorm move through last night, lost power for a bit. No damage, but I did have a bit more peace of mind while it was flashing all around us. Can't say the same for my pup though.

Milito

Post here also.
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