Might be it for Tiger
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Was he texting?
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step brother lives less than 1/2 mile from the spot, I have driven it many times and you need to pay attention and slow down... has been the site of many accidents in the past
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He needs to get a new driver......
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anyone know where he fills up?
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If you or I (aka a normal person) had been involved in this exact type of wreck, toxicology testing would have been mandatory for us to comply with. Why this was not done in this case is favoritism on it's face....The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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nooshinjohn wrote: »If you or I (aka a normal person) had been involved in this exact type of wreck, toxicology testing would have been mandatory for us to comply with. Why this was not done in this case is favoritism on it's face....
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The guy certainly knows how to self-destruct.....LOLPolitical Correctness'.........defined
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Ok, if you say so...
If he and every other normal thinking person says so. Toxicology tests are pretty normal for these types of accidents and it's not normal to by-pass them just because your a famous person. If the shoe was on the other foot, lets say instead of Woods it was Trump jr in the drivers seat. You can bet every test known to man would have been given. This is what aggravates people, when they see a 2 tiered justice system being played out .HT SYSTEM-
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This video is going in the opposite direction up Hawthorne. The accident site is around the 31 to 32 minute mark. Looks like a nice road to go fast on. Unless distracted and in an unfamilar large SUV of course.
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Going 87 in a 45 zone resulting in an accident would’ve resulted in citations for driving too fast for conditions at the very least, not to mention speeding 40 plus over which would be a very serious points assessment and very high fine. In fact, law enforcement has conceded he was driving too fast for conditions which is obvious. An accident resulting in injury would also result in toxicology testing where I’m from. This sure appears to be a double standard in this case.
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They gather additional evidence like toxicology or cell phone records if there is probable cause. When first responders arrived at the scene, Tiger was awake, responsive, and lucid, so they saw no reason to get toxicology tests. I think cell phone records are gathered in other types of accidents such as rear-ending someone, or perhaps head-on collisions (i.e., injuries to another party like Don mentioned) where distraction looks to be the culprit. Seeing as how this accident was due to excessive speed, and on a known problem stretch of road, I guess they didn't feel the need to do all that.
I'm sure Tiger's lawyers would have had a field day if additional evidence was attempted to be gathered without probable cause."This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
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If he and every other normal thinking person says so. Toxicology tests are pretty normal for these types of accidents and it's not normal to by-pass them just because your a famous person. If the shoe was on the other foot, lets say instead of Woods it was Trump jr in the drivers seat. You can bet every test known to man would have been given. This is what aggravates people, when they see a 2 tiered justice system being played out .
That's right, I forgot that for some everything's political.
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They got a search warrant for the black box. It seems the same probable cause would justify a warrant for a blood draw. Not only was there an injury but he applied full pressure to gas pedal instead of the brake. Perhaps the real reason the authorities immediately stated “This is just an accident” was because of the driver’s celebrity status. I thought it was very unusual how quickly and assuredly they stated it was “just an accident” before any investigation.
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Good point about the 'black box'. I actually didn't even know those existed for autos until this story emerged.
I think the key point regarding 'injury' is that no other party was injured. Yes, Tiger was obviously injured, but no one else was injured who could have possibly brought forward a lawsuit. So, in the DA's eyes, no need for further evidence to be gathered.
To be clear, I'm not trying to defend Tiger, the DA, or anyone else. My initial post for this thread was really about the multiple, compound fractures Tiger incurred on his legs, and these injuries might end his career...or at least his bid for breaking any more records. The PGA Tour is sooo competitive, with so much young talent, I just don't see him winning again. Even this week at The Masters, Brooks Koepka is struggling to compete with relatively minor injuries, compared to Tiger."This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
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40+ over the speed limit and an accident would result in a reckless driving ticket at the very least in any state that I’ve lived in. He is definitely getting preferential treatment.
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I don’t think data from onboard sensors is valid for issuing tickets.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/marinamedvin/2019/01/08/your-vehicle-black-box-a-witness-against-you-in-court-2/?sh=4a5005ff31c5
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I’m not a lawyer, but I don’t think that applies to all states.
“In December 2015, the federal Driver Privacy Act of 2015 was enacted. It places limitations on data retrieval from EDRs and provides that information collected belongs to the owner or lessee of the vehicle.
Seventeen states--Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Dakota, Oregon, Texas, Utah, Virginia and Washington--have enacted statutes relating to event data recorders and privacy. Among other provisions, these states provide that data collected from a motor vehicle event data recorder may only be downloaded with the consent of the vehicle owner or policyholder, with certain exceptions.”
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If the vehicle was airborne and his foot was on both the brake and accelerator. It would rev up and could have pegged the speedo.Gustard X26 Pro DAC
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My son was in a single vehicle accident where his truck rolled and he was thrown from the vehicle. He was given a citation for not wearing a seat and for speeding. No reckless driving charges, no toxicology reports. Nothing but the two tickets.Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden
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If the vehicle was airborne and his foot was on both the brake and accelerator. It would rev up and could have pegged the speedo.
The damage to the vehicle was consistent with the speed indicated by the black box.
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I’m not a lawyer, but I don’t think that applies to all states.
“In December 2015, the federal Driver Privacy Act of 2015 was enacted. It places limitations on data retrieval from EDRs and provides that information collected belongs to the owner or lessee of the vehicle.
Seventeen states--Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Dakota, Oregon, Texas, Utah, Virginia and Washington--have enacted statutes relating to event data recorders and privacy. Among other provisions, these states provide that data collected from a motor vehicle event data recorder may only be downloaded with the consent of the vehicle owner or policyholder, with certain exceptions.”
https://www.ncsl.org/research/telecommunications-and-information-technology/privacy-of-data-from-event-data-recorders.aspx
And those certain exceptions are:---
California
1) with owner’s consent; 2) court order; 3) vehicle safety research;
Or as stated in other states
3) emergency investigation; 4) emergency medical care; 5) medical and vehicle safety research;
2) pursuant to a search warrant;
Also, due to the fact that the entire world knows the information that is on Tiger's black box, and I seriously doubt Tiger nor his lawyers gave consent to obtain and publicly distribute that information.Post edited by txcoastal1 on2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
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13 accidents around the location Tiger had his crash on that road. According to the news last night they're have been multiple calls to look at "fixing" that part of the roadway.
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Fix it by slowing down,no need to drive that fast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Of course I agree with the speed. My post was way before they knew the speed he(Tiger)was traveling. Regardless the folks who commented about fixing that section I'd like to think they were going the posted speed limit. -
Here in Wilmington NC. they've put 3 speed humps on a 1/2 mile curvy road around the corner from me. Speed limit is 35. It's probably the stupidest waste of money I've seen on the implementation of speed control.
Even the Ambulance drivers got a lot of attention for vocalizing their opinions that this city was going to "create deaths" by slowing the ambulances down WAY TOO MUCH.
There were opinions somebodies friend was getting paid by the foot putting these humps EVERYWHERE. It was a WTH?, another one..? It's like you get back up to the speed limit and right then you have to start breaking again...NONSENSE.
Hasn't California heard of speed humps or rough road grooves to wake people up or to announce danger? Those road grooves sure get your attention in a hurry! I watched that video and didn't see one speed hump on a supposedly dangerous and proven crash causing road.
I've driven millions of miles ( yes...probably millions) and have seen some accidents too. Most accidents I've seen are from speeding. A lot are from people going through an intersection when they shouldn't have. My wife had our fairly new car totaled from a jerk going through a red light as she entered the intersection.
Tiger fell asleep, is my thought. He just had back surgery a week or so before this happened to him...and he had just gotten up?
Stiff and sore back??? a pill or two OR three will take care of that...Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
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Tiger fell asleep, is my thought. He just had back surgery a week or so before this happened to him...and he had just gotten up?
Stiff and sore back??? a pill or two OR three will take care of that...
Had it been the average Joe Blow, toxicology would have been drawn before our keister was in the ambulance. Operating a vehicle under the influence of ANY substance is still DUI, and a jail cell would be waiting just as soon as the court system would allow.
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That putz should do the world a favor and just fade away.Political Correctness'.........defined
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The PNC "Championship". isn't in the same league as the Masters, etc so let's not get any false hopes up.
After viewing pics of his X-rays from 10 months ago, I still say that one should IMO resign themselves to the fact that Tiger is NOT coming back.
I wish for him that he enjoy his 36-hole outting with his son Charlie. ⛳
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